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    If his percentage goes up this year, will we be able to say Danny's a good shooter? Or will you just move on and complain about something else?
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    Danny couldn't even hit open jump shots last year. A player like Danny should be hitting 45%+ from the floor. It used to be horrid shot selection as the reason his %s were declining and now it's the fact he struggles to hit uncontested jumpers. Good shooters just don't shoot at such poor levels as Danny. That's got to change if the Pacers want to get to the Conference Finals or beat Miami.
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    Except Ray Allen, as already shown in this thread.
    ? Not sure what you're getting at considering Allen has been a consistently solid shooter throughout his career and is above 45%. Granger does not have such consistency and has shown nothing but decline in his shooting each year in the league. Everybody acknowledges this except for some of the Pacers fans on here.

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    You know you didn't answer my question, right?
    Depends on what they go up to. Small fowards have no business consistently shooting below 45% like Granger does. If Granger can finally get at or above 45% for the first time in 7 years, then we may very well have a team that can legitimately compete for a title.

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    Just for comparisons sake...

    In his first 9 seasons seasons Ray Allen has had about 4 seasons within his career where he shot at or below 43%. (he later would have two more seasons at or above that mark)
    Danny has had 3 seasons in 9 years at under 43%.

    Obviously Danny is nowhere NEAR the shooter that Ray Allen is, but fg% doesn't ALWAYS tell the story is my point.

    Danny is a good shooter, not great, nor even very good. Just good.
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    ? Not sure what you're getting at considering Allen has been a consistently solid shooter throughout his career and is above 45%. Granger does not have such consistency and has shown nothing but decline in his shooting each year in the league. Everybody acknowledges this except for some of the Pacers fans on here.
    I don't see how you missed Ace's post, and turn around and act like it never existed.

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    You know Indy really isn't that dangerous a city, and apart from the Chicago/Gary area and a few near Eastside Indy spots, Danny could probably take a walk at midnight and not get bothered at all anywhere in Indiana. Unless he was mixed up with the Outlaws, likes hanging out in downtown Gary at 1 AM (or Club Rio), or has a blood feud with the Amish, he's probably going to be able to get by with just 1 security dude.
    Seth, Danny just has to stay inside of the donut and he'll be safe.
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    I don't see how you missed Ace's post, and turn around and act like it never existed.
    Yea, players have poor seasons shooting the basketball, Reggie included... But what makes guys like Allen or Reggie the better shooter is the fact that those poor seasons are negated with great seasons. The poor shooting doesn't become a trend like it has with Granger. You won't find many outside the state of Indiana who feel Granger is a good shooter, because good shooters simply don't have 42%, 42%, and 41% seasons in the prime of their careers. Unless you consider Allen Iverson a good shooter...?

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    Yea, players have poor seasons shooting the basketball, Reggie included... But what makes guys like Allen or Reggie the better shooter is the fact that those poor seasons are negated with great seasons. The poor shooting doesn't become a trend like it has with Granger. You won't find many outside the state of Indiana who feel Granger is a good shooter, because good shooters simply don't have 42%, 42%, and 41% seasons in the prime of their careers. Unless you consider Allen Iverson a good shooter...?
    So, if his percentages start going up again, you'll be happy with Granger?
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    So, if his percentages start going up again, you'll be happy with Granger?
    His shooting percentage has been decreasing every year there is not reason to believe that his % is going to go up.

    It also looks like his knee is going to be an issue.

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    You guys are reaching for every possible straw to hang onto.

    But, hey, Ellis is soooo much better then Granger (still cracks me up to bring that up ) and Jeff Green is going to be better then Danny aswell and Johnny Flynn is going to be awesome in the NBA. Some of the writeups from you and Croz.
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    You guys are reaching for every possible straw to hang onto.

    But, hey, Ellis is soooo much better then Granger (still cracks me up to bring that up ) and Jeff Green is going to be better then Danny aswell and Johnny Flynn is going to be awesome in the NBA. Some of the writeups from you and Croz.
    Jeff Green is a damn good player with a talent level arguably superior to Granger prior to his heart conditions. We'll see what he does this year in Boston. And where did I say Flynn was going to be awesome? I said his character is what we need on this team and obviously NBA teams thought highly enough to draft him top 10. Kid put up 14.5ppg and 4.5apg his rookie season afterall... Of course I've been off on a couple of guys, like Alexander, but I also called for Hibbert, Rondo, and George before just about anybody else on here made mention of those guys. Even recall calling Harden the best player in the draft while guys like Naptown Seth were comparing him to Mateen Cleaves. Hate on.
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    So, if his percentages start going up again, you'll be happy with Granger?
    If he's at 45% and taking no more than 12 shots per game, then yea I'll be happy. But the odds of him doing that are slim imo.

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    If he's at 45% and taking no more than 12 shots per game, then yea I'll be happy. But the odds of him doing that are slim imo.
    If Danny's hitting 45%, why on earth would you want to limit him to 12 shots per game?
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    If Danny's hitting 45%, why on earth would you want to limit him to 12 shots per game?
    Because I don't think he has any chance in hell at 45% if he's taking more than 10-12 shots per game. Less is more many times, and with Granger I believe that's the case. He needs to focus more on his quality of shots as opposed to quantity.

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    I , personally would have rather had us take a flyer on Flynn, as opposed to Ben Hansbrough.

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    Actually, he is correct. Balogna is food; baloney means foolishness. Not trying to be a smart-***, just trying to help.

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    All credibility out the window for spelling the word bologna like that.

    Danny Granger should never be traded IMO because I can't see much less predict a trade where we get the equal bang for the buck that DG brings us (as not only a seasoned vet, but an INDIANA seasoned vet, his above average defense, his fire when dealing with LeWhine James, and his overall tenacious attitude. I think it fits with what i want Indiana basketball to be). And if you've never read the article about Danny and his "old man moves", much like David West i think DG's game will transition well into his 33-34th birthday

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    I do believe that the traditionally poor distribution skills of Pacers point guards have had an impact on the shooting percentages of our players, particularly our perimeter players. Without a good distributor I contend that there is a greater likelihood of possessions ending in hurried shots to beat the shot clock. And, more often than not, it is a perimeter player that is forced to take the hurried shot.

    I'm hoping that Hill and Augustine both prove more capable than previous at getting the ball to open players in their sweet spots. So, wat am I expecting this year? One of the biggest improvements I am expecting is a better shooting percentage for our team as a whole. With our better athleticism and distribution, I also expect to see us shoot more free throws as opponents attempt to recover to our shooters.

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    Jeff Green is a damn good player with a talent level arguably superior to Granger prior to his heart conditions. We'll see what he does this year in Boston. And where did I say Flynn was going to be awesome? I said his character is what we need on this team and obviously NBA teams thought highly enough to draft him top 10. Kid put up 14.5ppg and 4.5apg his rookie season afterall... Of course I've been off on a couple of guys, like Alexander, but I also called for Hibbert, Rondo, and George before just about anybody else on here made mention of those guys. Even recall calling Harden the best player in the draft while guys like Naptown Seth were comparing him to Mateen Cleaves. Hate on.
    Jeff Green is average at best in fact every team he has played on has been better without him statically than with him. He isn't anything special at all and what the Cs are paying him is laughable and in no way shape or form was he superior to Granger that is beyond laughable(im not the biggest Granger fan BTW)


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    If he's at 45% and taking no more than 12 shots per game, then yea I'll be happy. But the odds of him doing that are slim imo.
    I agree I have griped on Granger for his poor shot selection in the past..

    I think we may see something close to this Granger had never played with a good team until last year. I expect year two to be much better shot selection wise and knowing his role. I hope we stays in the post more he is a hell of a post player when he wants to be.
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    Jeff Green is average at best in fact every team he has played on has been better without him statically than with him. He isn't anything special at all and what the Cs are paying him is laughable and in no way shape or form was he superior to Granger that is beyond laughable(im not the biggest Granger fan BTW)


    Jeff Green doesnt pass my eye test and the stats back me up as well



    I agree I have griped on Granger for his poor shot selection in the past..

    I think we may see something close to this Granger had never played with a good team until last year. I expect year two to be much better shot selection wise and knowing his role. I hope we stays in the post more he is a hell of a post player when he wants to be.
    Jeff Green is pretty good, good defender, good scorer, he can also post up and play the 4, not a bad player to have.

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