I admit that DWill is a good players, but he's not elite IMO. He really doesn't make anyone on his team better. That's the mark of a top pg. I'd def lower him outside the top 5.
CP3, Rose, Rondo, Nash, Rubio...those guys are good and make their teammates better. Kyrie will be elite real soon. It's really difficult to rank pgs, just cause there are so many good ones, you seriously can't go wrong on these guys.
My top 5 would be CP3, Rose, Westbrook, Rondo, Parker, in that order.
joew8302 - you are crazy then. The Timberwolves were 19-19 before he got injured, looking like they were getting better and better, and finished at 26-40. He just has that ability to make his team better. He doesn't have to score 30+ to be elite. Rondo proves it all too well.
I don't really agree with the rankings other than the final 3.
My top 5 would probably be 1. Rondo, 2. CP3, 3. Rose, 4. Parker 5. Williams (although I'd be tempted to put Nash in the 4th or 5th spot.) Westbrook has all the ability to be in the top 3, except mentally he's not there.
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It'll be interesting to see how D.Rose stacks up AFTER his injury. If he loses some of that speed and explosiveness, he's gonna fall.
And yes, the only PG better than Rondo is CP3. Rondo is a baaaaaad man, who always rises to the occasion in big games.
D-Will is kind of overrated to me. This year will be a good gage of how good he really is.
It all depends on what you want from the PG position when ranking those top 6. Personally, I'd rank them:
I'd choose Rondo over everyone. He is clearly the best Point Guard in the league.
I would take in to consideration rondo is only being payed a flat 10 mil a year for a PG with his talent that is an amazing contract.
Counting down the days untill DJ Augustin's contract expires.
My top 3 would be CP3, DWill, Westbrook for next year.
If it's based only on last year's form, i would say CP3, Parker, Rose.
5. Deron Williams
And it amazes me that people who would take Rubio (a big stat guy on a bad team)over Hill (a winner everywhere he has been), but killed Troy Murphy (big stat guy, bad team).
Rubio hasn't proved a thing in the NBA other than he's a good facilitator. That only gets you so far unless you have great players around you. At this point I wouldn't trade Hill for him.
Pre-injury last season, he had the Wolves looking like a 6-8 seed that could really cause some problems.
for what it's worth, the Wolves are 21-20 with Rubio and 5-20 without him. But they also lost Pekovic at basically the same time, so it's not worth much.
People focus too much on wins anyway. Let me guess, George Hill for Kyrie or a young Chris Paul would be a no-go too? How about a Steve Nash from last year?
With Rubio, we are talking about a rookie who's an amazing passer, big, long, and already a better defender than most of the players on that top 10 list, and a better defender than -- any -- of them except Rondo were in their rookie years.
either way, you can either stay in front of a Westbrook type or you can't. And Rubio is one of the few people who, for the most part, can. i'm more concerned about the effects of his injury than people suddenly 'learning' to get past him consistently.
Now shooting is a concern, and i don't think it was ever really a debate. But it's unfair to say that he's just a passer.