Why hasn't Luck outplayed RG3? What exactly is this based off of... hype?
If I were to ask you who has more total yards per game, what would your answer be? And yes, I'm including rushing yards.
If I were to ask you who has more passing touchdowns per game, what would your answer be?
The media has talked up RG3 so much, you automatically assume RG3 is destroying everyone in the league in those categories, and he's not even leading Luck.
And Luck has less team around him. I'm becoming more and more confident of that notion by the week... our team is pretty ******, personnel-wise. I'm learning that even the players I thought were decent aren't all that great. And it's getting worse with every injury we have.
Oh, and when comparing to Peyton --- Luck isn't 7/7. He's 11/7. He's scored 4 on the ground, also. And Manning didn't have 12 picks -- he had 14. 11/7 to 4/14.
Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 10-22-2012 at 11:07 AM.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
No, I'm talking about the veteran defensive players + Reggie Wayne who know what it's like to win. How even though our defense has been below average for some time now, they still routinely make big plays at opportune times. The Colts have a winning culture, with 1 bad season out of a decade. That mentality is contagious, and I believe it is that more than Andrew Luck that is helping us to stay around .500. Is he playing great? No. Is he playing great considering he's a rookie? Emphatically yes.
The Colts have moved on. You need to as well. Peyton Manning could have restructured his deal to make it more cap friendly up front for him to stay here, but he didn't.. He could have agreed to allow the deadline to be pushed back (I understand his reasoning on not doing this one all the way though) to give the Colts a better understanding of his health situation, but he didn't. If he had agreed to do either of those, I would bet anything that Manning would still be a Colt and we would have auctioned off our #1 pick. It was Irsay's decision to cut Manning, but it was Manning's decision to leave.
Last edited by aamcguy; 10-22-2012 at 11:39 AM.
He is last place among rookies in efficiency. Is he last place in wins?
Also, since you're telling me our wins are NOT because of a winning culture, what are they the cause of? You've ruled out quarterback play, and you've ruled out a veteran presence. I guess there's only 1 scenario left. The opposing defenses are spending approximately 50% of their time doing cartwheels and handstands while Luck consistenly misses undefended receivers.
Also, as far as veterans I consider part of the old regime:
Reggie Wayne, Antonio Johnson, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney, Antoine Bethea, Jerraud Powers, and to a lesser extent Pat Angerer (who I understand hasn't been playing)
The offense got reworked, and the defense is next. But they still have the same mentality.
Psychosis is a loss of contact with reality that usually includes: False beliefs about what is taking place or who one is (delusions); Seeing or hearing things that aren't there.
Sounds like I nailed it.
"Just look at the flowers ........ BANG"
So, I think they go from 0-10 to 1-9 or 2-8 for the rest of they way. Better than I thought they would do at the begining of the season. I think Luck will continue to be a very low ranked QB an his numbers will slide against those good defensive teams that are coming up. He could finish the season rated dead last in QB rating although I think he stays ahead of Cassell, the only QB behind him. All and all, a miserable season. If they had kept Manning and a few defensive players and taken the boat load of draft picks they would have gotten for Luck, we would have one of the four rookies rated ahead of Luck being developed and the team would be about 10-6. Not good enough to challenge the Texans but perhaps good enough for a wild card into the playoffs. The next year when all of those rookies matured a big and some free agents could be added, they move up a bit and perhaps give the Texans a run. The Texans are very good and they will be for the next five or six years. This is all just my opinion but not too far off the mark, I think.....
I don't think anyone's fandom is going to be shaken despite wins or losses (referencing olblu so I don't have to quote him) I was a fan of the team when Jeff George was our QB...I think I'll somehow manage to stay a fan with Andrew Luck as our QB.
No matter what happens on the field the owner is always going to be there. And if you hate him and his practices that much then it's always going to be sucking the life out of the game for you isn't it?
...But that's just me....
EDIT: And I cannot understand how a fan of the Colts cannot be rooting for Luck. Luck hasn't done anything wrong in any of this. Regardless of his on field play or off field life he's the starting QB for the Colts for at least the near future. I don't know what games you are watching but Luck has more than lived up to expectations in these first 6 games as a whole. Yes, he's struggled on the road. And that is to be expected early. But he's also shown some heady play, an excellent sense of awareness, and solid leadership. You don't see any deer in the headlights looks from him out there. And he's shown the ability to run a 2 min drill like a veteran. And his incompletions have more to do with drops than bad throws more times than not. He's adjusted quite nicely since the Chicago game.
Last edited by Bball; 10-22-2012 at 03:43 PM.
Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."
I don't know why I respond and take you seriously blu you are a pretty good troll if I thought you were any kind of serious about any hate/grudge/fandom especially since you're supposedly so upset about the Irsay manning situation why not just cut your losses and go find yourself a Broncos board to post on?