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    i hate it when espn does highlights of detroit games and saying they are shorthanded...

    is missing one player really shorthanded, when you compare it to the pacers...no

    and when they say they are shorthanded...it gives detroit more credit than they deserve. they are a good team, but hopefully they will stop calling them "shorthanded".

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    What other choice do they have vapacersfan?

    ESPN News maybe, but it gets old fast seeing the same highlights over and over.

    FSN has some good stuff (Like Pacers home games), but there isn't an equivalent to SportsCenter.

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    Huh? Of course the Pistons are shorthanded - they're missing their best player. The Pacers are even more shorthanded, but both teams are accurately described as shorthanded.

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    But ESPN has paid more attention to how the Pistons are doing without Ben Wallace than how we're doing without JO, Ron, and SJax.

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    i heard that and laughed pretty hard.

    AWWW POOR PISTONS missing one player must be TERRIBLE!

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    The Pistons are considered shorthanded when they are missing one player, because of their lack of depth

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    When you don't have Ben Wallace's hands and body all over you fouling the crap out of you when you go up for a shot. Then yes, The Pistons are shorthanded.

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    FSN really needs to have a Sportscenter show god dammit.

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    If I were a Pistons fans I would be worried about their lack of depth. They have little depth. Pacers 3rd string is better thna the Pistons second string

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    I am a little worried, but not too much. Delfino has been hurt but should be back soon, so that will help. And McDyess has really started to play well. And of course if someone else needs to be brought in, I'm sure Joe D will do it. Depth is nice, but less important in the playoffs, as we saw last year (when the Pacers bench outplayed the Pistons bench, who contributed very little all playoffs).

    Plus, did you see Darko last night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck
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    If I were a Pistons fans I would be worried about their lack of depth. They have little depth. Pacers 3rd string is better thna the Pistons second string
    And at least for a night each the Pacers "3rd string" has been better than a few teams' starting lineups!

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    In the playoffs its always 1st string vs 1st string anyway.

    The Pacers 2nd string KILLED the Pistons 2nd string in last year's ECF, with the exception of one game, and we still won the series.

    When you get two elite teams going at it, the benches rarely become a factor. Benches are for when you're hammering an 8th seed, and you want to rest your starters......

    And yes, the Pistons are shorthanded. They're missing their best player, and their best reserve guard. I give Indiana all the credit in the world for winning with their decimated squad, but that has nothing to do with wether the Pistons are shorthanded or not.

    That said, I give them no credit whatsoever for their play since the suspension. They've been playing like crap.

    I will say this: Ben's suspension has given Darko minutes, and he's improving every game. Larry Brown may have him into the rotation by playoff time, and that would be a HUGE boost to our depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
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    I will say this: Ben's suspension has given Darko minutes, and he's improving every game. Larry Brown may have him into the rotation by playoff time, and that would be a HUGE boost to our depth.


    Good points otherwise but you lost me there.

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    If you saw the energy and defense Darko brought last night, you'd know.

    Miami was opening the game up on us, and Darko came in and gave us a real spark. It was no coincidence that we had the lead when he left the game.

    Miami posted shaq on darko a few times, but Darko really stood his ground. That kid is strong. Not to mention, Darko has a 7'6" wingspan, and his length was bothering shaq's jump hooks. Darko actually REJECTED shaq on a layup, but it was takena way because coleman fouled him on the play.

    Darko's only score was his steal and breakaway dunk, but on the defensive end, he was as solid as I've ever seen him, against shaq no less.

    I suppose thats what you get when you give a kid MEANINGFUL minutes....

    probably the reason why Primoz blew up so quickly.

    Kids just don't react as well in garbage time, because the focus isn't there.

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    I watched the entire game and mainly thought it was a fluke. The steal and breakaway dunk, he was in the right place at the right time. As for him defending Shaq, he was on the weakside and wasn't bodying up against Shaq, Derrick Coleman was.

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    Though if you really do think Darko can be the Shaq-stopper, that is rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyoufeelit
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    Though if you really do think Darko can be the Shaq-stopper, that is rich.
    Actually, Shaq was isolated in the post on Darko four times that I counted. Once he couldnt get position and he passed out, two times he took a jump hook and missed, and the fourth time he missed but they called a foul.

    I do think there can be something said for the fact Shaq couldn't bully Darko underneath the rim, like he does everyone else.

    I just think the kid has really improved, thats all. Ideally, I'd love him to be the 4th big man in the rotation, behind WallaceX2 and McDyess. Darko's the biggest player on the team, he's got tayshawn prince-type arms, and he's fast as hell laterally. Physically, he has all the tools to be a great defender. He just needs mental experience, and that only comes with playing time. His body is as ready as its gonna be.

    I think askign him to supplant Campbell this year, whom has played really well, may be asking a bit much, but Darko's natural ability and potential is still there. its not as if it just left him.

    Larry Brown, who is Darko's BIGGEST critic, actually said it was the first time he came into a game and played like he belonged on the court. I happen to agree with that.

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    4 touches is too small a sample size for me. You have to keep in mind that this is Shaq - he doesn't hit chippies (if he did he would probably shoot 75%) and flat-out abuses centers that are bigger/stronger/much better defenders than Darko. I wouldn't be convinced of anything except the fact that he played like a backup C for a couple of minutes.

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    4 touches is too small a sample size for me. You have to keep in mind that this is Shaq - he doesn't hit chippies (if he did he would probably shoot 75%) and flat-out abuses centers that are bigger/stronger/much better defenders than Darko. I wouldn't be convinced of anything except the fact that he played like a backup C for a couple of minutes.
    I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many centers that are bigger and stronger than Darko. He's done nothing but pump iron since he was 13. Campbell is a pretty huge player himself, but he isnt nearly as cut as Darko is.

    Darko's lateral (side-to-side) quickness is also probably better than any NBA center outside of probably Ben and Jermaine Oneal. Lateral quickness is the single-most important physical aspect of playing defense.

    Darko's got all the physical gifts of an outstanding defensive player, he just needs to get game experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyoufeelit
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    I wouldn't be convinced of anything except the fact that he played like a backup C for a couple of minutes.
    Are you kidding me? The fact that he has been playing like a back-up water boy before then makes the fact that he played like a back-up center a HUGE issue. This is the first time the kid has done anything that doesn't make you wish he wasn't out there (overstated a bit for effect). Kstat isn't saying he wants him to start he is saying that he would like him to play enough to see if he can be the 4th or 5th big man. Thats not asking for a lot but its getting a lot more out of Darko then it has looked like he would give this year.

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    I think another all-sports channel would be good for the industry. Something different
    than ESPN in presentation.


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