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    Default Re: better season, Roy Hibbert or Paul George?

    It really depends on how you evaluate them.

    Roy is coming off an All Star season and a fat contract. Expectations are high for him, and they should be. He is going to continue to be the crux of our team, and our defense in particular. Roy locking down the paint and being a consistent threat on offense is what will make this machine work.

    Paul George is coming off a second season where he started to get some attention. The Slam Dunk Contest and his huge 30 point game in Dallas, added to the tough defense he has earned a reputation for has all given Paul a name nationally. I think the expectations for this season are higher among Pacers fans than among the general NBA fan, but it's out there.

    I think Roy continues the strong play we saw last year, and probably has a slight bump in stats based on increased minutes. Hopefully some more consistency and strength will be evident, but Roy is likely to stop improving so drastically and simply settle into his prime.

    Paul should make a good jump based on his work, his focus, and his coaching. The stats will likely come and go still, as he's not going to be the likely focus of many gameplans. Our team's strength lies in the balance and the options we have, so we'll continue to see 10 point games followed by 20 point games. I think his average will go up and his defense hopefully remains rock solid, and maybe even improves in the few areas he struggled.

    So from an improvement standpoint, Paul is likely to have the better season.

    From a raw impact on the team, game, and NBA, Roy will still have the better season. If Paul even challenges Roy on the grander scale, the Pacers could beat Miami in the playoffs.
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    I think Roy Hebert will, but I would like to ask this question? Who do you think will have a better season, Danny Granger or Paul George?

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    I think Roy Hebert will, but I would like to ask this question? Who do you think will have a better season, Danny Granger or Paul George?
    Danny, he's the best player on the team. unless he's hurt.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if pg was our leading scorer this year

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    Tracy mcgrady, joe johnson, chauncey billups, etc etc.....
    Andre Iguodala, Danny granger (not a 2 guard but a wing), Eddie Jones, Kobe Bryant..

    It's all about PT, FGA, and place on totem pole.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if pg was our leading scorer this year
    I would. You have a black hole playing next to him in Granger (nothing that goes into Granger ever comes back out) and if it looks like PG is going to score that much, Granger will start guarding him...... ...

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    Paul George has only been in the league 2 years, how can you assume that Paul won't be very good this year before it happens? Also, not many wings with all-star potential are drafted on to teams that get the 5th best record in the NBA their second year. Most of them are thrown into the fire, Paul wasn't.
    I didn't say that he would not be a very good player. I just don't think he will ever be a star or an all star. Hasn't PG been starting for most of that two years? That is being thrown into the fire.... ...

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    He had more DNP-CD than starts in his first year.

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    He had more DNP-CD than starts in his first year.
    Thanks. It seems like he has been starting forever..... and he should.... ...

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    Thanks. It seems like he has been starting forever..... and he should.... ...
    It does seem like a long time ago. Maybe the lockout seemed like a long time. I think he's only got 85 games that aren't under JOB though.

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    Paul George should be named an All-NBA defensive player this year and if he can score 15 points per game with it, that'll get you All Star consideration if you're on a very good team.

    He's obviously not done progressing in his career either. No idea why he won't be an All Star at some point.

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    Paul George should be named an All-NBA defensive player this year and if he can score 15 points per game with it, that'll get you All Star consideration if you're on a very good team.

    He's obviously not done progressing in his career either. No idea why he won't be an All Star at some point.
    I don't think he will be named to that all defensive team this year. Kobe is a mortal lock there. I don't think he will make second team either because D. Wade is usually strong in the voting too.... I will give you that he may be top five at his position..... ...

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    I don't think he will be named to that all defensive team this year. Kobe is a mortal lock there. I don't think he will make second team either because D. Wade is usually strong in the voting too.... I will give you that he may be top five at his position..... ...
    It's pretty close actually... PG has 10 points last year, Kobe had 17, and Wade had 5... And I think he improved a lot as the year went on.

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    Thanks. It seems like he has been starting forever..... and he should.... ...
    And he didn't even have a training camp his first year as a full time starter. This yr should give us an idea of what PG will be and what he won't be

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    who do you think will end up having the better season between these two
    I will go with PG. I think both him and Roy will have good years but unless Roy gets more demanding about getting the ball I dont see his numbers being much different than last year while I see PG going up. DJ Augustin I think might get Hibbert a few more touches this year because he is a pass 1st guy. Love Hill being a Indiana boy but DJ might be the better PG for the team and Hill might be better suited a 6th man. Personally the biggest change I see with our team this year will be in D. West being another year removed form knee surgery. I see Granger still being the leading score but D West will be a close 2nd.
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    The thing about our team that hurts George statistically is that we have 5 starters who in a vacuum all would be able to average 16+ ppg. Since that is the case it becomes difficult for all of them to live up to their statistical potential. In the vacuum I would expect the scoring expectations of each starter to be something like this; Granger 23ppg, West 18ppg, Hibbert 18ppg, George 17ppg, and Hill 16ppg. When in reality it is more likely to be something like this; Granger 18ppg, West 14ppg, Hibbert 14ppg, George 14ppg, and Hill 12ppg.

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    Youre getting into my territory of thinking. I thought one of the big problems the Pacers had last year was the dropping off in scoring when the 2nd unit came on the floor. With the top 5 players on the team starting and platoon replacement, we had DC and Hans who had to score. If Green and/or Ian can't make up the loss of firepower, one of the starters is going to need to extend their minutes or move to the 2nd unit to keep the leads the starters build. I don't really like PG, DG, DWest and Roy all on the floor at the same time with GHill. Too much scoring, not enough ball movement and a huge fall off when they leave the floor.

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    I think BOTH will have better seasons. But I think that Paul's ready to come into his own. Third year's the charm! Paul should be the last starter to sit on the bench, and the core of the offense with Augustin running the court. Him and Green on the court at the same time is a sight to be seen. As soon as they both get [ ] this much more aggressive, they'll be kicking some ***.

    Also, slightly off topic, I noticed after tip-off of the home game vs. Minnesota that, right after the ball was tipped, Augustin got the ball, and Gerald sprinted in a cut to the rim. If that game had started with a crazy alley-oop to Green, right after tip-off, the game would have started completely differently. It would have changed the tempo of the game from the get-go.
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    PG. He has more to prove and he will become a top 15 player in the league
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    PG. He has more to prove and he will become a top 15 player in the league
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