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    Default Pacers' Most Improved Player for the 2012/2013 season

    What player do you want/expect to be the most improved from last season.Personally,I'd go for Paul George.The talent is undeniably there but he needs to fix his rather awful handling,decision making at times and stop being so passive in some games.Next,I hope for Roy's improvement and make his presence even more felt on the offensive end.

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    George has the most room for improvement for sure. But I expect to see Hibbert and Hill to be improved. Maybe even West with the lighter schedule and more time recovering from his injury.

    And who knows, with the rate at which Green was improving prior to last year, he easily could have improved his shooting more this offseason.

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    Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejay Augustin.
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    I am going on a limb here and say Danny will be more proficient and a better defender. You can now attempt to break that limb.

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    Roy will become a bonafide star center next season. Vogel will manage to have plays that can get the ball into him when we need him to have it and he'll have higher usage because of it, he'll also maybe play a minute or two more per game.

    16 ppg
    10.5 rpg
    2.4 apg
    2.2 bpg

    32 mpg

    52% from the field

    72 percent from the line.

    All Star. All NBA 3rd team.

    Heard it here first.


    Hopefully George's ball handling pays off, this team is pretty stacked with guys who can score 15+ ppg, but i'll predict-

    14.7 ppg
    6.5 rpg
    3 apg
    2 spg
    .8 bpg

    47% from the field
    38 percent from 3
    80 percent from the line

    2nd team All Defense.handles and was on a bad team he could probably put up 18 ppg in that case, but no way here.


    Predicting scoring is tricky here, if he really has improved his

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    I honestly wanted to mention Tyler,but he was so bad last season that anything remotely decent will be an improvement.

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    I honestly wanted to mention Tyler,but he was so bad last season that anything remotely decent will be an improvement.
    Hopefully Hollinger was right that alot of it was playing next to amundson. Now he will be playing next to Mahinmi.

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    I think Tyler will play better. Most improved...Gerald Green. Seemed to be finding his game late last year in Jersey. Has had a chance to mature...now he has a chance to prove himself

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    We all better pray that the answer to this by season's end is an emphatic, resounding "Paul George."

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    We all better pray that the answer to this by season's end is an emphatic, resounding "Paul George."
    Not necessarily. As long as Paul George improves greatly is all that matters. If Hibbert somehow improves even more thats just gravy.

    And in regards to Green. If Green becomes the player that he looked capable of becoming when he got drafted. Then the league better watch out.

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    This is a tough question.

    I think it'd be best for our team if it was Roy. If Roy's most improved, then we're significantly better and in the most important area.

    I think Paul, Lance and Tyler have the most room/capability to be better than they were last season, especially Lance and Tyler.

    I have no idea who it will be. Paul seems most logical only because that sort of thing is easiest measured by stat increases and he has the most room for growth. If Lance can stay in the rotation, stay healthy and focused then it's Lance.

    More than anything, I hope we have the same player development this year that we had last year.

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    Whoever plays the 1 for us. If it is Hill or Collison, I do not care. I just want this position to pick it up a notch. If it does, it will elevate the whole teams play.

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    I'm predicting a 5-6 ppg improvement for Paul George this coming season. I'm sure he has been putting in the work this offseason, plus he has been hanging around the likes of Lebron and company probably picking their brains in the process to get ideas for improvement.
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    I'm predicting a 5-6 ppg improvement for Paul George this coming season. I'm sure he has been putting in the work this offseason, plus he has been hanging around the likes of Lebron and company probably picking their brains in the process to get ideas for improvement.
    That would mean 17-18 ppg.Although that would be great and welcomed of course,is something not easy to accomplish especially when you are in a team that has many scorers and not one go to guy.

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    That would mean 17-18 ppg.Although that would be great and welcomed of course,is something not easy to accomplish especially when you are in a team that has many scorers and not one go to guy.
    If Paul's handles have gotten better than last year, I think the team will look to go to him as much as if not more than Granger when they need scoring.
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    If Paul's handles have gotten better than last year, I think the team will look to go to him as much as if not more than Granger when they need scoring.
    I disagree. PG is one of the worst mid-range starting SG in the league.

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    I hope it is Tyler, but I wouldn't count Paul George out or Lance. My dark horse will be Hill.

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    I'm going with Tyler. He's had all summer to work on learning West's counter moves.

    I have a theory that one of the reasons we signed David West is because he has a grounded offense. The same kind of offense that Tyler could develop. They were hoping that Tyler could learn that offense. He spent the season observing it. This was his summer to learn it.

    btw, my answer was influenced by a Conrad Brunner article from earlier this summer.

    "Tyler needs an offseason," Coach Frank Vogel said. "He's a guy I'd like to work with more than any player on our team this summer. With the motor that he has, if he ever develops the game, the skill-set, the moves and the counter-moves someone like David West has, really the sky's the limit for what he can do.

    "Since he's been drafted he hasn't had an offseason to work with the coaching staff whether it's injuries or the lockout or whatever. He has a tremendous area for growth in terms of developing his skill set and his moves."
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    As for the guys left from last year's squad I think Roy will make the biggest improvement. I know he'll make it his job to show that he deserves that contract. For the new guys, I think DJ will have a nice year and average some nice assist numbers. Gerald Green is my next option.

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    If Tyler Hansbrough is the MIP, the Pacers are in serious trouble!
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    If Tyler Hansbrough is the MIP, the opponent is in serious trouble!

    MI though

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    If Tyler Hansbrough is the MIP, the opponent is in serious trouble!

    MI though

    The reason I say the Pacers are in trouble if Hans is the MIP is for several reasons.

    Paul should have a lot of improvement and from our side looking in, he should show the most since he has the most potential.

    Hill, without a doubt should have a big year as he will jell with the team in the PG position.

    Hibbert should show improvement in many different area's for many different reasons. (no need to go there).

    West should have a lot of improvement and could see him get back to an All Star state since he should be stronger and mentally trust his knee.

    Green should have his best season as a pro and we all know he has tremendous abilities and he seems to be maturing and figuring out how to play in this league. A full season with the Pacers should catapult him into the playoffs.

    I'll stop here with these players and just say...

    If Hans is MIP this year among this team when Hans has shown absolutely no sign of improvement and actually declined from 2010 to 2011 then what will the other player be like. West would have to be injured or just totally sux for Hans to get enough minutes to even have the opportunity of showing enough improvement to win a MIP. If, Hans just plays a backup role and does improve, then he sure shouldn't deserve MIP over starters or it means the starters didn't improve enough and that will sux. I just don't see Hans as the MIP unless someone sprinkles magic dust on him!

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    And I'm a huge Hans fan, I would love to see him just play out of his mind and go into a full beast mode with the ability to see his teammates for a dish and to see him drain his 15-18 ft jumper at 50%...Damn, I'd be freakin out!!!
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    I'd love for it to be Tyler Hansbrough, but that doesn't seem very likely. I'm going to go with Paul George. In any case, it's more important for Paul to improve than Tyler.

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    I'd love for it to be Tyler Hansbrough, but that doesn't seem very likely. I'm going to go with Paul George. In any case, it's more important for Paul to improve than Tyler.
    Don't underestimate what an improved Hansbrough could do for this team. Not having a post player who could consistently score off the bench was the biggest problem with the bench last season, and if Tyler was able to score consistently we would have had as good of a bench as everyone thought we did going into the season. With that kind of a bench we most likely would have been competing for the number 1 or 2 seed instead of striving for the number 3.

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