:QUOTE=Sollozzo;1506545]Minnesota is a good team. They are 3-1 and we beat them.[/QUOTE]
The Vikings are not a good team and they won't finish as one. They may be about .500 when it is done. The Colts didn't beat the Vikings, the Vikings decided to give them that game. If they had watched film of the Chicago game, they would have had the defender playing close behind the receiver on the long pass that Luck hung up and it would have been intercepted. Just about any team in the NFL, including Jacksonville, look like good teams playing the Colts. Remember, I still think the Colts will only win two or three games this season. I did not expect them to beat the Vikings but did expect them to beat Jacksonville in Indy. Now, they probably lose two to Jacksonville, Houston and perhaps even Tennessee. If you want some wins you better get them in the next five games, you won't get many in the last eight..... ...
Just give them credit for winning the game. The Colts outplayed the Vikings. I was there.
Minny may or may not be a good team at the end of the season. But they are solid right now. 3-1 is 3-1, and that includes a win against the 49ers who many have in the Super Bowl. They have a solid quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over, a stud young receiver, one of the best RBs in the league, and a very solid defense. They will contend for a playoff spot. The NFC is deep, so I'm not penciling them in for a spot. But they will compete all season.
Ponder: 27-35, 245 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INT
Luck: 20-31, 224 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INT
Ponder had a very high completion percentage, but Luck's was still pretty good. And despite completing 7 more passes than Luck, Ponder only threw for 21 more yards. He was throwing a ton of short passes that day and couldn't get the offense going until it was very late in the game. Luck was also constrained by ultra-conservative play calling in the second half that cost him the opportunity to put up even better stats than he did, as well as almost costing the Colts the game.
And then you consider that Luck was playing his second game EVER whereas Ponder already has a season under his belt.........
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However, the next week, the Colts had 11 penalties for 106 yards while the Jags had 6 for 67. It was basically a flip of the Vikings game. So if you're going to say that the Vikings gave that game away due to penalties, then you must also say that the Colts gave the Jags one away in order to remain consistent. Yet I don't see you using the penalties in the Jags game as an excuse for Luck losing like you are with Ponder.
I agree with you about things evening out. The Vikings beat the Jaguars, the Colts beat the Vikings, and the Jaguars beat the Colts.
I can't tell if OlBlu is the biggest troll in the history of the internet, or if those sweet K-Mart shades are because he's legally blind. You haven't stopped to think that perhaps some of Luck's throws are behind target because...oh, I don't know, he has probably the fastest receiving corps in the league? Could it be that he's 3 games into his career and is still getting used to making decisions at an NFL pace, and throwing perfectly to 4.3 receivers? Could his low percentage be because he has two rookie tight ends and three rookie wide receivers? And Donnie Avery who missed a lot of practice time. Could his low percentage be from having one of the worst offensive lines in the league and no threat of a running game? This isn't speculation or opinion, it's fact. You forget that people questioned Rodgers' arm strength coming into the league, and look how that turned out. He floated his fair share of passes, too. I've seen Peyton float plenty of passes. It happens, especially early in a career when the game is just a little bit too fast.
You can gush over Bob Griffin all you want, that's fine. But there's a reason Luck was the unanimous #1 pick two years in a row, considered the most NFL ready quarterback to come out since Elway, and has already made all the NFL throws a quarterback is required to make with precision and zip. It's because he's the real deal, and everyone else is right about him and you aren't.
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All Colts related discussion on PD has been completely ruined. What a shame.
Blu, not as simple as that, it's just your opinion, and a very incorrect one. You don't know what to look for in a QB, you're too enamored by the Bob Griffin hype.
Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 10-07-2012 at 02:36 PM.
Anyone who thinks Luck will wind up on a stretcher before Griffin hasn't watched the Redskins.
That's why running QBs just don't have a good track record in the NFL in the long term. Certainly RGIII is plenty talented enough to be a very good pocket passer, but just saying he can't play this style of play that he's started out with in the long run.
A quarter of the way through the season:
1,208 yards, 7 TD's, 5 INT. 74 yards rushing and 1 rushing TD.
That projects over 16 games for 4,832 yards, 28 TD's and 20 INT's. 296 yards rushing and 4 TD's.
We all know things don't work that way, but my goodness that's a pretty rookie season.