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    Yes I'm blatantly stealing from Mike Wells blog today (go here to read him)http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsi...hooting-guard/

    But it got me to thinking where does Reggie rank, obviously it's all subjective so there is no true answer but let's just see where everyone puts him.

    I'm not sure yet where I'm going to go but for certain Michael Jordan will be # 1 & Koby will be # 2.

    After that?


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    There is no way for me to give an un-biased answer. So I won't attempt to.

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    Note to all - there will be a LOT of Pacers fans putting Reggie at #1 or at some high point that others will disagree with. Let's keep those disagreements civil and respectful, understanding that Reggie holds a place in the hearts of many people on here that no other NBA player can come close to.

    I don't like ranking players because I just don't watch enough other teams to get a good view of other 2 guards except when they play the Pacers. That said, I don't think I'd put Reggie at #3. I could be convinced he's in the top 5 all-time, definitely in the top 10.
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    Note to all - there will be a LOT of Pacers fans putting Reggie at #1 or at some high point that others will disagree with. Let's keep those disagreements civil and respectful, understanding that Reggie holds a place in the hearts of many people on here that no other NBA player can come close to.

    Exactly.

    I won't argue with folks who put MJ or Kobe ahead of Reggie, because I understand that point of view, and where people who feel that way are coming from.

    But, I place a lot of weight into intangibles and sentiments since the original question was... "in your OPINION".

    In my opinion the "Greatest" shooting guard to ever play in the NBA was Reggie Miller... and since it's my OPINION I get to base it off of whichever set of criteria I choose.

    If it were a "which shooting guard has the most championships?" poll... Then it would be fact-based, not opinion-based.

    All of that to say, Reggie is #1 for me
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    MJ. Kobe........ ??? Reggie
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    In his era, Reggie was the 3rd best sg behind MJ and Drexler. For the following generation, Kobe is clearly better, but after him you could argue that Reggie was better than AI and Ray Allen. I would say that Wade is better than Reggie. I would put reggie as number 5 SG of all time when you consider how he performed in the playoffs
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    MJ. Kobe........ ??? Reggie
    MJ is easily #1. I can argue Kobe being #2. Reggie is definitely in the top 5
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    MJ is easily #1. I can argue Kobe being #2. Reggie is definitely in the top 5
    Who would you put in the top 10?

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    Of the guys I personally remember watching, he's 8th. I included some guys who were well before my time but with pretty good reason in their cases. It's certainly possible that the Gervin, Maravich, Monroe triumvirate should be higher or lower respectively but I can't say for sure where they belong other than that they do belong. West may be as low as 5 but I'm not putting Wade or AI over him simply because he's the logo.

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    5. Allen Iverson
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    8. Pete Maravich
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    Of the guys I personally remember watching, he's 8th. I included some guys who were well before my time but with pretty good reason in their cases. It's certainly possible that the Gervin, Maravich, Monroe triumvirate should be higher or lower respectively but I can't say for sure where they belong other than that they do belong. West may be as low as 5 but I'm not putting Wade or AI over him simply because he's the logo.

    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Jerry West
    4. Dwyane Wade
    5. Allen Iverson
    6. Clyde Drexler
    7. George Gervin
    8. Pete Maravich
    9. Earl Monroe
    10. Ray Allen
    11. Joe Dumars
    12. Reggie Miller

    Ray Allen, D-Wade, Kobe, and Iverson are definitely not higher than Reggie
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    Ray Allen, D-Wade, Kobe, and Iverson are definitely not higher than Reggie
    I don't get how you can't put Wade and Kobe ahead. Iverson is arguable because he had the skills but not the longevity. Allen, however, is about as close as you can get to Reggie based on his effect on the game - what do you see that puts Reggie ahead of him other than some high-visibility playoff performances?
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    It's so hard to make a list of shooting guards, MJ first, Kobe second, West 3rd and after that is hard, wasn't Drexler a shooting guard?, Dwade, Iverson, Dumars, Ray, Pete and Reggie? (note that after 3rd place nobody is
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    I don't get how you can't put Wade and Kobe ahead. Iverson is arguable because he had the skills but not the longevity. Allen, however, is about as close as you can get to Reggie based on his effect on the game - what do you see that puts Reggie ahead of him other than some high-visibility playoff performances?
    I agree with Kobe but I wouldn't put Wade ahead of Reggie. He only managed 1 championship with Shaq and at least one season so far he didn't win a championship with Lebron/Bosh. Then you look at what he did without those guys and his teams were awful. Wade has had his moment but quite frankly, I thought the the refs made sure the Heat beat the Mavs the first time around. He was getting every phantom foul in the book after being down 0-2 to the Mavs. He went on to break Jordan's record for free throws? At the end of the day, he has two championships but I don't think the first one was legit and he was so bad at leading the Heat at one point that they were able to land the #2 overall pick. His list was top 12 and he had wade 4. I'm sorry but I think I could come up with a number of shooting guards all time that would lead their team to a better record than the #2 pick. Even if they had one of the worst rosters in the NBA that season.
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    Ray Allen, D-Wade, Kobe, and Iverson are definitely not higher than Reggie
    You've got to be kidding me.

    Reggie Miller over Kobe Bryant and Dwayne Wade? Reggie's resume', as impressive as it is, doesn't even belong in the same stratosphere as Kobe. Kobe is a top 10 all time player.

    Most objective observers would have AI and Ray Allen above Reggie too. Pretty much all would have AI over him. Allen is the only one of the four guys that could be debated, but in recent years he has elevated himself over Reggie, IMO.

    I know that we are supposed to be sensitive to the sentimental feelings people have about Reggie, but that doesn't mean that we should stand by and let rationality and reality be thrown out the window.
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    1. MJ
    2. Oscar
    3. Kobe
    4. West
    5. Clyde
    6. Gervin
    7. Wade
    8. Allen
    9. Reggie
    10. Pearl

    I don't count Pistol Pete or AI as SG. This list leaves guys like Nique, Barry, English, Erving, and Havlicek off who were more forward than guard. In Oscar Robertson's best years in SA, they used bigger lineups with him at SG so I included him. This list gets real different real quick when you add Erving to the SG spot, but again he primarily played SF in their best lineups in Philly and with the Nets.
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    In Oscar Robertson's best years in SA, they used bigger lineups with him at SG so I included him.
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    Reggie is difficult to rate . Regular season? No, he doesn't even belong in the Hall of Fame and doesn't rate very high on any shooting guard listing. Playoffs? He is near the top. I suppose you have to take both regular season and playoffs into account. too difficult for me to make a list

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    It doesn't really matter to me, all I know is that he is one of the best.
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    just a reminder... a replay of "Looking back at Reggie" is coming on at 6 on NBATV for those who hadn't gotten a chance to watch it yet ....
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    Reggie is 2nd behind MJ
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    Yeah Clyde is clearly ahead, so is Kobe Bryant. Ray Allen is. I don't know that I would put AI up there. He scored a lot, but he gave up almost as many points as he scored. Reggie was a much better defender than AI. I guess I don't put my horse blinders on for only scorers. DWade hasn't done enough for me yet, but he is going to be there when it's all said and done.

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    See I guess to me I always thought of Maravich as a PG, but I guess he really was more of a combo guard/shooter. It's tough for me to not put Reggie in the top 10, but I absolutely could not put him top 5 either. To me MJ, Kobe, West, Wade, and maybe Iverson are unquestionably above Reggie. Of course I could see where on a non Pacers board Reggie might not even crack top 15. Certainly his memorable playoff performances give him a huge boost.

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    See I guess to me I always thought of Maravich as a PG, but I guess he really was more of a combo guard/shooter. It's tough for me to not put Reggie in the top 10, but I absolutely could not put him top 5 either. To me MJ, Kobe, West, Wade, and maybe Iverson are unquestionably above Reggie. Of course I could see where on a non Pacers board Reggie might not even crack top 15. Certainly his memorable playoff performances give him a huge boost.

    Most non Pacers fans I know have him top 20-25.

    A few people dont even have him as a HOF'er, but that is a debate for another day.

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    A few people dont even have him as a HOF'er, but that is a debate for another day.
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    Most non Pacers fans I know have him top 20-25.

    A few people dont even have him as a HOF'er, but that is a debate for another day.
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