he pretty much gave up on recruiting and it showed on those rosters. a few good players on those teams sprinkled amongst scrubs didn't cut it. when guys like roy williams, pitino or kryzewski were showing up at summer tournaments letting the kids know that they were interested in having them come play for them- bob was using the off-season for hunting and fishing. nothing wrong with those things but he simply refused to spend his time recruiting anymore.
yep. any coach who is serious about getting the big pieces to put out a contender makes it a point to do some of the grunt work themselves. when you do nothing but send out assistants to do that- you get what we had in those final years. when your ego knows no bounds, you expect players to come crawling and begging to play for you and it just doesn't work that way.
year after year, i kept seeing top recruits and their list of schools and we weren't on them or if so, not for long. after all, what is going to impress a blue chipper more- mike kryzewski meeting you personally or mike davis the i.u assistant?
not a hard choice really. the other coaches simply wanted it/them more
Yep, Benji out of Chi-town in the mid 80s is another great example. Knight went into his neighborhood multiple times.
Anyway, Knight's lazy recruiting at the end was definitely passed on to Davis. The famous Mike Conley story comes to mind.
As far as the 2002 team being "Knight's players", yes they were, but I'm not sure that says much. They weren't a very talented team. Don't get me wrong I love that team and they were fun to watch, but they got that far on pure grit and getting hot from 3. I'm not sure you can give Knight any credit for that.
One of the biggest reasons I hate Penn State is that every year we have to hear about their "star guard" all game who is actually a ****** basketball player who shoots a lot and only shoots like 40% from the field. Every. Single. Year. Like DJ Newbill right now, they are so surprised he is 2/9...really? He's only shooting 40% on the season.
Yogi hitting his J tonight
Penn State sucks.
Did Yogi finally find his jumper?
No foul was called on this play.
That picture is all sorts of hilarious. The expression on #11's face when he gets a handful of Cody Zeller's junk is priceless.
The other Penn State player looks like he is going in for a kiss.
The last championship was 26 years ago in 1987. Knight was the coach for half of the 26 years since then, from 1987-2000. Davis/Sampson/Crean make up the other 12 which didn't end in a championship. 2013 obviously is still yet to be determined. Knight is just as responsible for the championship drought as anyone else.
The record is what it is. Knight presided over an extremely mediocre program (by IU standards at least) from 1994-2000, which is a fairly large sample size. Not a single Sweet 16 birth over that time-span and four first round eliminations. It was time for him and his massive ego to be shown the door. He is one of the greatest coaches ever, but his magic touch had worn off long before IU kicked him to the curb.
Well under Crean now the players graduate early so...
The 90s had a momentary lull in elite high school talent from the state of Indiana as well, which hurt. Knight often had 60-80% of the team from the state.
You can tell by the Mr. Basketball selections it was weak for awhile. Many years even Mr. Basketball wasn't worth a B10 scholly- just 1 NBA draftee in this run:
1992 Charles Macon
1993 Maurice "Kojak" Fuller
1994 Bryce Drew -1998 NBA Draft: 1st Rnd, 16th overall by the Houston Rockets
1995 Damon Frierson
1996 Kevin Ault
1997 Luke Recker
1998 Tom Coverdale
1999 Jason Gardner
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The mid to late '90's, while certainly not the best time for Indiana high school basketball, still had plenty of Big Ten caliber talent. The problem is the Knight was getting beat out for most of it.
Charles Macon played at Ohio State but byond him Walter McCarty was part of that class. Kojak Fuller absolutely was Big Ten worthy but ended up in jail. Chad Austin was also that year and he had quite a career in the Big Ten. We all know why Bryce Drew didn't go to the Big Ten but that class also featured Bonzi Wells. 1995 was a down year but Damon Frierson was pretty awesome in the MAC if I remember right but Alan Eldridge was a decent player at Purdue and Duany Duany wasn't bad at Wisconsin. Kevin Ault was too small and unathletic to be a B1G player but Michael Lewis, Carson Cunningham, and the McQuay brothers weren't. 1997 was bad but Knight was able to get Recker. Coverdale obviously went to IU but other guys like Kueth Duany, who played on the Syracuse title team with Melo, went elsewhere. Jason Gardner was an All-American at Arizona who IU didn't seem too interested in if I remember right. I don't remember if Knight went after John Stewart before he passed but I know he was going to Kentucky.
There's no question that the talent level in this state wasn't as good towards the end of Knight's tenure as it has been in last decade, but there's also no question that he'd lost the ability or desire to get much of what was there.
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