First year at UK he got to the Elite 8. The next year he got to the Final Four. The third year he won it all. Seems like he's a good coach to me.
Just out of curiosity, how do you rationalize what Cal was most likely caught up in at UMass and Memphis? Or do you just accept that he was completely ignorant to it?
Hes had the most talented team in the country what 5 years and won it all once. Butler has a great coach, Kentucky has a great recruiter
I thought that the NCAA had cleared Rose to play before the season- reviewed the transcripts, tests, etc- just like they did with Wall and now Noel; afterwards, they declared him ineligible and the season was vacated. If Calapari knew that Rose didnt take that class then I would not support him at all. Camby hired an agent during the season- I really doubt Cal knew this, but again he might have.
I told all my UK loving buddies that hiring Cal was a mistake in the beginning- the more I looked into it, the more I felt like he might have a bad rap. Ultimately, I think he falls somewhere between those that believe he is a cheater and those that think he was the victim. I dont personally know so I just take it a year at a time with him.
Also, I have heard that Crean is good friends with him. I would not think Crean would associate with someone that is a cheater. If UK goes down because of something Cal did, then I'll burn all my UK mdse.
My son is most likely going to end up at IU next year- I tried to push him toward UK or WKU but the campus at IU is hard to beat (not to mention the business school). I cant believe this is happening to me, but what the heck...it is his decision. My daughter says whe will attend UL in three years- another stab in the back- at least I have a few years to change her mind.
So I suppose I might be a UK and IU fan next year.
IU's campus is top notch there is no doubt.
No its not. They are very different things. Very different skill sets. High Schools aren't supposed to recruit, so what there are no great high school level coaches? NBA coaches don't go out and negotiate with FAs on a day to day basis, so what there are no great NBA coaches.
Coaching is about knowing the game of basketball and being able to impart that knowledge to kids. Recruiting is simply one of the jobs a coach has to undertake to hopefully get a talented player he can then coach up and improve. And thats the problem with Cal, he doesn't teach the kids. They get to the NBA and not only are they less talented comparatively, they also have less of an understanding of a game than they could if they had gone to college with a good coach.
Unless Cal is paying players he isn't a cheater though. Hes just a jerk willing to exploit young desperate kids for his own benefit.
But really its the NBAs fault, they need to copy the MLB model. And even though it will never happen they need to stop overrating complimentary players on championship level teams.
Exploit? I think it's a mutually beneficial relationship. The players are better off after playing for him.
Calipari wins so the fans are happy. He gets players in the NBA which makes the players happy.
Assuming he is playing by the rules, nothing else really matters.
And that one was aided by the threat of an NBA lockout causing three important upperclassmen to return for another year and help the one-and-dones accomplish something they could not have done on their own, IMO.
I do not think that there will be any more championships for Cal and will be saddened if I am wrong.
Okay. 85% of coaching is having the team with the best players. In college, that means in recruiting.
It's cliche but Jimmy's and Joe's really do beat X's and O's.
A bad coach can lose with good players. A good coach will lose with bad players.
"I had to take her down like Chris Brown."
It's been pretty big for a long time. Classes were ranked back in the 80s. It was a big deal when Knight recruited Damon Bailey as an 8th grader.
On Ky, I remember when Shawn Kemp made his campus visit to IU. He was a funny guy who loved to talk, and of course a big-time recruit. He made it 100% crystal clear that IU, or anyone else, was not in the running unless the coaches could do "for him and his family what Kentucky was going to do for us."
Of course he did go to Kentucky, stole the coach's son's jewelry, and was kicked off the team.
I wonder if Eddie Sutton or the KY boosters got his money back. Not for the jewels, but for what they had done "for him and his family." We all knew Kentucky players were paid since forever. It was just kind of funny to hear it straight from one of them, and this was before the Emery money package exploded en route to its delivery to Chris Mills. Kentucky cheats like a dog pants and smiles. All day, every day.
There is a HUGE Inside the Locker Room up on Peegs. I will skim and try to post some good tidbits.
Crean says he wants HH tomorrow to be standing room only and says the fire department better be ready to deal with it haha.
I liked the part about "Only team in U.S. not missing anything." Makes me suspect Crean has succeeded in shoring up the defense. Otherwise there would be a but or an except after that sentence.
And ***** on the football recruiting front. WTH has happened.
With the new baseball stadium going up, the fact that the soccer team is looking as good as ever, and everything going with bball and football, it is a hell of a time to be an IU fan. And it's tough not to give Crean a ton of credit for the effort he has put in on all fronts.
When he stood up there and took this job and said "It's Indiana." I couldn't tell whether it was just joy or truth, well it looks like he was all in with us. It's Indiana, It's Indiana.
Crean has done a fantastic job in coaching and recruiting. Last year's team hustled and was not intimidated one bit- not even facing hostile crowds bothered them...kind of played with a swagger. Fans of other teams definitely could tell a difference. This team is flat out deserving of a top ranking. I am not much of a gambler, but I wouldnt bet against them this year.
I just spent the last hour or so watching videos and things of last year, the Kentucky game, Crean's introductory presser, etc. I've come to this conclusion: No matter what happens this year (good or bad), last year will go down as my favorite year for IU basketball in my lifetime. Given the context of the situation, the last four years, all the misery, the fact that I was at that Kentucky game, the high level of character of every single player on that team, all the crap the upperclassmen went through...just a special group. Sometimes you need that perspective from the bottom to truly appreciate the top. I just hope we win our last game this season.
looks like Elijah Daniel decommited today
Wow. Hoosier Hysteria is not only a packed house, but it looks like several thousand people who were in line will not be getting in. Amazing showing from Hoosier fans.