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    Default Back-seat/vigilante moderating and bumping old threads

    There are a couple of trends that the administrative team has noticed lately that I would like to address.

    First is the subject of back-seat/vigilante moderating. While I appreciate the desire of some of our members to help maintain PD's environment, situations such as these are why the administrative team is here, and why the "report post" option exists. In extreme circumstances, there is also the "ignore user" option.

    Secondly, bumping old threads without adding new or relevant information is prohibited. All this serves to do is clutter the front page with outdated and oftentimes irrelevant information and, to be honest, is a bit rude. Further instances of this may be met with warnings/infractions.

    While I'm at it, I would also like to clarify what justifies a warning/infraction when it comes to forum behavior. This is a discussion forum and, as such, there will be disagreements. Sometimes they may even get a little heated. However, once someone steps over the line (generally by resorting to name-calling or adopting a condescending attitude), that is where we will step in. While we don't want to stifle discussions here at PD, we will also not tolerate it degenerating into a flame war.

    Remember, at the end of the day, we're (mostly) all Pacers fans here, so let's keep it civil, capice?

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    Sorry about the vigilante moderation (guilty as charged). As you said, I saw the front page clutter up with old, seemingly irrelevant posts, and was getting annoyed. I'll keep it on the DL next time around.
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    Meet the new boss... Same as the old boss...

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    So some people that I'm not going to name(but they know who they are ) are going to be out of work? no more "vigilantes" or "PD police"? Let's celebrate

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    I'll bump this in a few years.

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    I'm not sure that dropping a couple lines letting someone know that they're going overboard rises to the level of "vigilante moderating." I've never put anyone on ignore because even the worst posters on this board make a good point once in a while, and I'd hate to start now, but I'm not a big fan of this place becoming Jim O'Brien Digest.

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    I'm not sure that dropping a couple lines letting someone know that they're going overboard rises to the level of "vigilante moderating." I've never put anyone on ignore because even the worst posters on this board make a good point once in a while, and I'd hate to start now, but I'm not a big fan of this place becoming Jim O'Brien Digest.
    Now that's a bit extreme. Given the (sometimes irrational) hate Obie inspires on this board, them's fighting words

    FWIW, PD has always been one of the better policed message boards (which is a good thing in my opinion), and I don't see anything in Shade's post that diverges from past policy. If anything he's being a little lenient I think in posting a public warning when he could just hand out infractions behind the scenes.

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    Well, I bet some of this stuff takes care of itself when the season starts. I've been here awhile now and the natives always get restless in the offseason.

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    Thanks Shade.

    To clarify, would BlueAndGold have been okay if he had made a comment on each of the handful of threads he bumped?
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    Well, I bet some of this stuff takes care of itself when the season starts. I've been here awhile now and the natives always get restless in the offseason.
    This is par for the course. The off season requires some old controversial topic to keep the board alive.
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    Sorry, and I'll not do that one again. But considering I bumped 3 threads and have no history of doing that after about a decade...I would hope to get some slack.

    Also, the newly heated JOb threads were bringing back old memories. Since he was under discussion, I thought I might share what I thought was a critical time period in Jim's history. A time when I think he think he lost the team because we started hearing guys like Dahntay speak out.

    But sure, I didn't handle it right and after I did it....I knew that. But it's a little tough to wind back the clock.

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    Thanks Shade.

    To clarify, would BlueAndGold have been okay if he had made a comment on each of the handful of threads he bumped?
    I would recommend either of the following as the preferred method:

    1) start a new thread and link each of the three old threads into the new thread. (wow was that horribly worded or does that make sense)

    2) or perhaps even better he could have linked the old threads into the existing and current JOB threads. (I do this from time to time)

    let me know if that doesn't make sense.

    (having said that, I don't believe we are outlawing the bumping of old threads in special circumstances. Although the preferred method is linking old threads to current threads, as I have mentioned in this post)
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    I would recommend either of the following:

    1) start a new thread and link each of the three old threads into the new thread. (wow was that horribly worded or does that make sense)

    2) or perhaps even better he could have linked the old threats into the existing and current JOB threads. (I do this from time to time)

    let me know if that doesn't make sense.
    Thanks, that does make sense.

    (The typo is kinda funny, though.)
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    Adding new and relevant substance to something we've previously discussed isn't necessarily the same thing as bumping an old thread just for the purpose of bumping it.

    Really, I thought BnG was just trying to push me off into another 500+ day holiday from PD by bringing O'Brien back to life.

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    instead of bumping old threads (without new information), just copy and paste the link into the newer thread you want people's attention to
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    So I guess somebody is not going to bump the "Larry Bird is going to win NBA president of the year" thread for the million time?

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    Thank you Shade. When I logged in yesterday I initially thought the forum must have reverted to an archived state with all the old threads. I was confused for more than a moment.

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    Shade I don't like your condescending attitude. Now I'm going to go back and bump all of the "This team has quit" threads.
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    Well, I bet some of this stuff takes care of itself when the season starts. I've been here awhile now and the natives always get restless in the offseason.
    Ain't that the truth, this offseason actually hasn't been too bad IMO. Mostly good discussion about the quality of the Pacers moves.

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    Can I recommend Shade alter his avatar? Layin' down the law!


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    isn't it obvious? OlBlu hijacked Shade's account

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    There are a couple of trends that the administrative team has noticed lately that I would like to address.

    First is the subject of back-seat/vigilante moderating. While I appreciate the desire of some of our members to help maintain PD's environment, situations such as these are why the administrative team is here, and why the "report post" option exists. In extreme circumstances, there is also the "ignore user" option.

    Secondly, bumping old threads without adding new or relevant information is prohibited. All this serves to do is clutter the front page with outdated and oftentimes irrelevant information and, to be honest, is a bit rude. Further instances of this may be met with warnings/infractions.

    While I'm at it, I would also like to clarify what justifies a warning/infraction when it comes to forum behavior. This is a discussion forum and, as such, there will be disagreements. Sometimes they may even get a little heated. However, once someone steps over the line (generally by resorting to name-calling or adopting a condescending attitude), that is where we will step in. While we don't want to stifle discussions here at PD, we will also not tolerate it degenerating into a flame war.

    Remember, at the end of the day, we're (mostly) all Pacers fans here, so let's keep it civil, capice?


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    In extreme circumstances, there is also the "ignore user" option.
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    I would like it if BUMPS could get admin assists in the title that say "Bumped - new info post #xx"

    I realize that could be a lot of work depending on the bump rate (and cutoff, ie how much passed time is a "bump"), but a lot of times old topics have good reasons to come back and yet they can get derailed by confused posters commenting on stuff months or years outdated.


    I like PD because the comments don't go hide. It helps cut down on the "anonymity factor" where people just drop opinion bombs and walk away with no history to follow them and no consequences. It helps put the new opinions and comments in context.


    Of course the new thread with links to the old thread kinda works, but then quoting for follow-up gets confusing.








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    I would like it if BUMPS could get admin assists in the title that say "Bumped - new info post #xx"
    Or people could just look at the thread start date, which is immediately below the title.

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