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    This is the 1st part of "Long Shots," a documentary HBO did sometime in the past. If you want to watch the rest the other 5 pieces are on youtube. Not as Pacers heavy as I'd have liked or expected, specifically Slick, but it's still great.

    I'm 28 so I obviously wasn't around for the ABA, I'm sure a lot of it's romanticized as nostalgia is wont to be but it seems like such a blast. I'd love to hear some fun stories about the Pacers back in the ABA days if any of you guys have some.

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    I highly recommend the book "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto. It has a wealth of GREAT stories on the ABA with a lot of Pacers info
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    I highly recommend the book "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto. It has a wealth of GREAT stories on the ABA with a lot of Pacers info
    Loose Balls is one of the best sports books I've ever read. It's laugh out loud funny and has a ton of great Pacers stuff. It's only $11 on Amazon.

    http://www.amazon.com/Loose-Balls-Am.../dp/141654061X

    Terry Pluto, who did Loose Balls, also wrote a companion book about the early years of the NBA, Tall Tales. It's not as entertaining as Loose Balls just because nothing is as entertaining as the ABA, but if you have any interest in the history of the league it's an awesome book.

    http://www.amazon.com/Tall-Tales-Pla...902933&sr=1-13

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    That was great. I need to find time to watch the rest of it.

    Ah, that YouTube channel has other ABA videos. All Star games and playoff games and stuff. Looks interesting.
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    This is the 1st part of "Long Shots," a documentary HBO did sometime in the past. If you want to watch the rest the other 5 pieces are on youtube. Not as Pacers heavy as I'd have liked or expected, specifically Slick, but it's still great.

    I'm 28 so I obviously wasn't around for the ABA, I'm sure a lot of it's romanticized as nostalgia is wont to be but it seems like such a blast. I'd love to hear some fun stories about the Pacers back in the ABA days if any of you guys have some.
    You look a lot older in your picture and the maturity I read in your posts would have made me thought you were older...... ...

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    Not as Pacers heavy as I'd have liked or expected, specifically Slick, but it's still great.
    I'd argue that the Pacers specific parts were much more in depth than most (if not all) of the other ABA squads. For a one or two hour doc (having seen it when it originally aired at the age of 11 circa 1997), it was effective and if anything, became a companion piece to Loose Balls.
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    You look a lot older in your picture and the maturity I read in your posts would have made me thought you were older...... ...
    That's a TV character.

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    That's a TV character.
    I should change my picture to Skinny Pete. Maybe it'll give me more legitimacy.

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    The ABA was fun to watch and played a lot better basketball than most gave them credit for. I saw many games and loved the old Pacers, Roger, Mel, Freddie, Neto just to name a few.

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    I wish there was a legitimate league like the ABA now. Just some kind of alternative.

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    That's a TV character.
    I assume it is Patrick Stewart......

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    I wish there was a legitimate league like the ABA now. Just some kind of alternative.
    Acutally, there is an ABA right now. Legit pros. It's pretty much unknown.

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    Acutally, there is an ABA right now. Legit pros. It's pretty much unknown.
    Yes I know, I am familiar with it, but when I say legit I mean something more along the lines of the original ABA or the AFL. Not a league where the majority of the people in the city the play in don't even know they exist.

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    Loose Balls is a great book!

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    I highly recommend the book "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto. It has a wealth of GREAT stories on the ABA with a lot of Pacers info
    This should be required reading for all new members of PacersDigest.
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    The Reggie Harding stories are always worth a re-tell. The guy was a seven footer but so insane that if they had ever met, Ron Artest would have ran away, calling Harding crazy.

    Harding carried a gun in his gym bag. He was always late for everything.

    The Pacers had a sharpshooter named Jimmy Rayl who was just awful one night in New Orleans (1-14). Coach Staverman called him to the office to read him the riot act, but Rayl said he had played with no sleep since he had been rooming with Harden, who came in during the night, pointed his loaded gun at Rayl, saying "Tweety Bird, I heard that you hate [n-word]s"

    Rayl convinced him otherwise and convinced him to put down the gun, unload it, and then to give the bullets to Rayl for safekeeping until he sobered up, since they had a game tomorrow.

    Thinking he was OK, Rayl went back to sleep. Then he wakes up and Harding has the gun pointed at him again, saying "Did you think I only had six bullets?"

    Rayl calmed him down long enough to walk out of the room so he could (try to) sleep in the hotel lobby.

    Harding ended up getting fined so much for tardiness and misbehavior that he owed the team more money than they owed him in salary and they suspended him for the playoffs. This didn't make him very happy, so he threatened to shoot Mike Storen. He never played basketball again. He later died in a gunfight.
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    To be fair, there were ALOT of characters in the ABA that would have Metta Ron calling them crazy...
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    To be fair, there were ALOT of characters in the ABA that would have Metta Ron calling them crazy...
    I believe you mean A LOT. It isn't one word.

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    This is the 1st part of "Long Shots," a documentary HBO did sometime in the past. If you want to watch the rest the other 5 pieces are on youtube. Not as Pacers heavy as I'd have liked or expected, specifically Slick, but it's still great.

    I'm 28 so I obviously wasn't around for the ABA, I'm sure a lot of it's romanticized as nostalgia is wont to be but it seems like such a blast. I'd love to hear some fun stories about the Pacers back in the ABA days if any of you guys have some.
    I don't remember if this documentary covered Dancin' Harry or not. That fool wore a cape and would come out of the stands dancing away and casting spells on the other team. The fans liked him so much that the team put him on as a mascot. Interesting thing about Harry. He was a skycap for a major airline. He used to do his dancing for the Knicks but relocated to Indy for a while. I believe he is now in St. Louis still working for the airlines.

    I went to games before the Pacers hired him on. He wasnt' allowed on the court at the time but he put on a his show in the stands as close as he could get to the other teams bench.

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    "Harry" is now a skycap at Baltimore-Washington International Airport.

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    I believe you mean A LOT. It isn't one word.
    What is it with the recent influx of English teachers here all of a sudden?
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    What is it with the recent influx of English teachers here all of a sudden?
    I'm a bit of grammar nazi myself, pacers4ever's posts used to frustrate me to no end because the kid knowed his stuff but you had to parse the info so much. But yeah, calling someone out on "alot" is a little...anal.

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