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    I liked the Daredevil movie. Didn't love it, but liked it. I kept meaning to check out the director's cut but I've yet to do so. It's been long enough, I'd probably watch the theatrical and the director versions back to back to refresh my recollection and then to compare/contrast. Is the blu-ray copy worth it?

    *edit* Actually, I saw it for $9.24 (and I get free 2-day shipping) on Amazon, and they only had 3 in stock, so after a quick glance at a review which confirmed a good transfer and audio track, I decided what the hell.

    While apparently this disc does not contain the theatrical cut, I may actually be able to dig up a DVD copy of the theatrical release that I believe I picked up (God) 9 years ago or so. Won't be BD quality, but upconverted I'm sure it'll do the trick.

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    Well i'd imagine you could find it for like $5 right?

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    Well i'd imagine you could find it for like $5 right?
    Almost. I edited my post with an update.

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    I wouldn't pay $5 for that movie. Gross.
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    I think the theatrical version of Daredevil was absolutely horrible. And I am a huge Ben Affleck fan. But I'd be willing to give the Director's Cut a try.

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    As someone who hasn't seen it, isn't Daredevil generally regarded as a truly terrible movie? As in, among the worst of all time?
    I thought that was Elektra...does anyone even remember it?

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    I thought that was Elektra...does anyone even remember it?
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    It just goes to show you how far WB has their heads up their butts (in response to Trader Joe's post above). There is absolutely no reason to reboot Bats.

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    Actually, that wouldn't be a bad hire. At all. Affleck has been a very solid director in the past. That said, I don't want him to do it because I like his original movies and don't want to see any Justice League type of movie.

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    The JLA movie is going to happen. But its problem is that it doesn't have a great lead-in like the Avengers did. Marvel introduced all the characters individually and had a long term plan to connect all the movies. This JLA movie just won't work as well. They're going to have to reboot Batman (which will definitely happen soon, $$$), and they have a Supes. But what else is there? The GL movie was awful, they don't have a WW movie either now, though I think that may be in the works. It's very messy and disorganized, and people won't be interested in this.
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    Marvel nailed every single lead in movie (Hulk not withstanding) before the big crescendo ensemble performance and Mark Ruffalo redeemed the one character most people couldn't like on the big screen in the recent past. Tough to see DC accomplishing that especially since new Bats will be judged against Bale's Bat.

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    This movie blew my mind. It. Was. BADASS!
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    The Editing Room just put up their abridged script via Cracked. As much as I kind of enjoyed this movie, I think I enjoyed this thorough dissection of it more. Some excerpts:

    INT. SEWERS

    COMMISSIONER GARY OLDMAN follows some criminals into the sewers. He is then ATTACKED and brought before TOM HARDY.

    HENCHMAN
    Tom, we caught Commissioner Oldman! All he was carrying was a speech about Aaron Eckhart that he almost read in the last scene, but didn't.

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    I carry that everywhere! Who knows when you'll be invited to speak and you want to bring your own web of lies crashing down around you?

    TOM HARDY
    Commisshioner Oldman! I know you're in a shewer and I take fashion adviche from the Shredder, but resht assured no turtlesh will reshcue you.

    GARY OLDMAN
    What are you doing down here? What insidious design do you have for Gotham? And why are you wearing a goatse mask?

    TOM HARDY
    Goatshe? What? My mashk doesn't look ... oh my God, you're right, and now I can't shee anything elshe.
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    I'm glad you're coming back. I know everyone blames you for Eckhart's death, but I know better, because Batman never kills!

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    Actually, I did kill Aaron Eckhart. People keep acting like I falsely took the blame for that, but it was the murder of cops that I took the blame for. I straight-up shoved Eckhart off a building and he fell to his death.

    JOSEPH GORDON-LEVITT
    Yeah well, when he got half of his face blown off by he-who-must-not-be-named, that's when he TRULY died. Inside.

    CHRISTIAN BALE
    Yeah, I'm sure that would hold up in court. "Your honor, he was sad first."
    TOM HARDY (O.S.)
    Gotham! I have here a shpeech that Gary Oldman bothered writing down for shome reashon! It saysh Aaron Eckhart wash actually a bad guy, and Gary covered it up!

    GOTHAM'S CITIZENS
    We have no reason not to believe you! Death to Oldman!

    JOSEPH GORDON-LEVITT
    Gary, is this true? Because if it is, it means that pretty much every decision a protagonist made in the last film was the wrong one. For shame.

    GARY OLDMAN
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    Hold on, is the best actor in this ****ing movie really spending 80 percent of it in a hospital bed and then getting reamed by the kid from 3rd Rock.
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    WHEREESSTHETRIGGGAA!? WHEREISSITT!?

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    Sorry for bumping an old thread, but watching the movie again, I got confused. In the pit, who is the kid, and what is her relationship to Bane? Ra's Al Ghoul? Is it correct that she is Ra's Al Ghoul's daughter, and biologically, Bane is unconcerned? He is just her protector after her mother was beaten to death? Now, Miranda (The kid, I think?) is Bruce's love interest? Thanks
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    Sorry for bumping an old thread, but watching the movie again, I got confused. In the pit, who is the kid, and what is her relationship to Bane? Ra's Al Ghoul? Is it correct that she is Ra's Al Ghoul's daughter, and biologically, Bane is unconcerned? He is just her protector after her mother was beaten to death? Now, Miranda (The kid, I think?) is Bruce's love interest? Thanks
    The child in the flashbacks is a little girl version of Miranda Tate A.K.A. Talia Al Ghoul, Ra's Al Ghoul's daughter. They mislead you into thinking it's a young boy version of Bane, when it is not. The little girl's protector is a younger (but still adult) Bane. The mob he fends off to give her a chance to climb is responsible for his needing the mask (they basically ****ed up his face and his back to where he needs constant pain medication, which is partially why he's able to take such a beating from Batman in their first fight and up until it gets damaged during the second fight) and I believe also the back brace or band he wears, as well as usually that heavy vest.

    Bane is not biologically related to the Al Ghoul's.

    As for Miranda/Talia and Bruce, it was real love interest for Bruce, but she was just messing with him. I mean, maybe on some level she liked that/him, but at the end of the day she knew he was the enemy.

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    Speaking of DKR, every time I watch it grows on me a little more, yet there are just some things that I wish 'did it for me' but don't, namely most of the second half of the movie. Not that I hate it or even really dislike it, but it's just kind of dull to me. I love the last few minutes, though, and I at least enjoy the first half pretty well.

    A lot of the plot holes aren't necessarily plot holes upon reflection, but a few that still nag at me:

    1. How Blake knows who Bruce really is.
    2. Why at least 4 times as many cops aren't shot dead the second the mercenaries open fire with automatic weapons. Hardly any go down after they just charge at them, and that's just silly and takes me out of the moment.
    3. How did Batman end up at Dagget's place just as Catwoman is being swarmed?
    4. Why doesn't Batman ever use his grappling gun towards the end of his first fight with Bane to get above him and potentially wrap him / string him up when it's painfully apparent he's losing a toe-to-toe brawl?

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    2. Why at least 4 times as many cops aren't shot dead the second the mercenaries open fire with automatic weapons. Hardly any go down after they just charge at them, and that's just silly and takes me out of the moment.
    Man, thats easy - Bane screwed up and hired a bunch of out of work stormtroopers. Even since the Empire fell in Return of the Jedi, the stormtroopers have needed to feed their families somehow. Just because their aim hasn't improved in 30 years doesn't mean that they can't put food on the table!
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    Speaking of DKR, every time I watch it grows on me a little more, yet there are just some things that I wish 'did it for me' but don't, namely most of the second half of the movie. Not that I hate it or even really dislike it, but it's just kind of dull to me. I love the last few minutes, though, and I at least enjoy the first half pretty well.

    A lot of the plot holes aren't necessarily plot holes upon reflection, but a few that still nag at me:

    1. How Blake knows who Bruce really is.
    2. Why at least 4 times as many cops aren't shot dead the second the mercenaries open fire with automatic weapons. Hardly any go down after they just charge at them, and that's just silly and takes me out of the moment.
    3. How did Batman end up at Dagget's place just as Catwoman is being swarmed?
    4. Why doesn't Batman ever use his grappling gun towards the end of his first fight with Bane to get above him and potentially wrap him / string him up when it's painfully apparent he's losing a toe-to-toe brawl?
    I have a few that bug me as well-

    1. When Bane's crew ended up at the Stock Exchange, Bane shows up with a helmet on, but there are no motorcycles in sight. They bust their way in and hold up the place. Then, out the door, like 4 guys on motorcycles leave. They weren't inside, and besides, wouldn't the people grow suspicious? Where in the hell did they get the motorcycles?!?!

    2.After Bane's (failed/successful but incredibly painful back and facial surgery) procedure, he has to wear the mask to give him morphene or some painkiller he's addicted to to stay out of pain, so how does he eat or drink? How does he get fluids inside to keep his body alive? Injections I guess?
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    Also, I hate the ending. When he flies the Bat out of Gotham, he is supposed to martyr himself. Fox said there was no autopilot, and when Bruce askes why, Fox replies with, "That's what you're there for". Then, miraculously while he is in the Pit, he somehow programs autopilot (he returned to Gotham the day the bomb was to detonate, correct? Then he plans with Catwoman to take back Gotham, there would be no time!) And I'm supposed to think he ejected far enough away that people couldn't see him from the bridge, but the Bat flew at least six more miles away, when it showed Bruce in it with the bomb reading under five minutes? The entire scene with Alfred and Bruce glancing at each other in some foreign country ruined the movie, and nearly the trilogy for me. They have the perfect setup for the perfect ending to a fantastic series, and they ruined it. I honestly think if I am ever watching the trilogy with someone who has never seen them, I'll turn off the movie after Blake gets his bag from the lady who acknowledges him as his full name, Robin. I did like that part, a very subtle, but nice touch to tie in a character many thought was omitted. Until then, the only sighting of Robin was only in the Rougues football trailer, where fans had signs spelling "Rogues", and the R was Robin style. That sign was cut from the finished product.
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    I have a few that bug me as well-

    1. When Bane's crew ended up at the Stock Exchange, Bane shows up with a helmet on, but there are no motorcycles in sight. They bust their way in and hold up the place. Then, out the door, like 4 guys on motorcycles leave. They weren't inside, and besides, wouldn't the people grow suspicious? Where in the hell did they get the motorcycles?!?!
    Ha! Never thought of that. Maybe while some of the men started to open fire, one or two went out and snagged them to bring them in?

    2.After Bane's (failed/successful but incredibly painful back and facial surgery) procedure, he has to wear the mask to give him morphene or some painkiller he's addicted to to stay out of pain, so how does he eat or drink? How does he get fluids inside to keep his body alive? Injections I guess?
    I suppose in a controlled, calm setting, he can temporarily get by with injections or ingesting a pain medication while he takes a break to eat. I'm assuming he still has a functional mouth (he speaks fluently, after all) but it's just scarred up or whatnot.

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    Also, I hate the ending. When he flies the Bat out of Gotham, he is supposed to martyr himself. Fox said there was no autopilot, and when Bruce askes why, Fox replies with, "That's what you're there for". Then, miraculously while he is in the Pit, he somehow programs autopilot (he returned to Gotham the day the bomb was to detonate, correct? Then he plans with Catwoman to take back Gotham, there would be no time!)
    The key here is they time jump a lot. Around the time he seems to escape the pit, from what I can tell, it's about three weeks before detonation. If he waited until the last minute to fix the autopilot, maybe he got back sooner than the day prior to detonation and fixed it first? Or, I think more likely, there are some gaps in time between his first re-appearance in the suit after retirement and the time Bane defeats him, and he probably got to work quickly on fixing the autopilot prior to his beat-down. It's fuzzy at best.

    And I'm supposed to think he ejected far enough away that people couldn't see him from the bridge, but the Bat flew at least six more miles away, when it showed Bruce in it with the bomb reading under five minutes?
    I've thought about this one a few times as well. Best I can figure is that the last shot of the Bat shows him out to sea to where he probably wouldn't be noticed without binoculars, and you can theorize that an ejection from the Bat is similar to the ejection from the tumbler. In The Dark Knight, he never leaves his 'seat' in the tumbler before darting off in the batpod as it ejects him during self-destruct. In the case of the Bat, it could plausibly be that to eject from it would mean the cockpit itself ejecting, with some flight capability of its own, to get him back to shore someplace. This could then theoretically explain the last shot of Bruce's face before the detonation; in this case, it's a cheat to make us think he's still in the Bat, whereas in 'reality' he may at that point have already ejected and is flying away in his ejected cockpit.

    It's all a stretch, of course, but that's about the best I can come up with that seems at least a tiny bit plausible.

    So with the above in mind, what you say below doesn't really bother me much, though I might have preferred they actually killed him for its emotional impact.

    The entire scene with Alfred and Bruce glancing at each other in some foreign country ruined the movie, and nearly the trilogy for me. They have the perfect setup for the perfect ending to a fantastic series, and they ruined it. I honestly think if I am ever watching the trilogy with someone who has never seen them, I'll turn off the movie after Blake gets his bag from the lady who acknowledges him as his full name, Robin. I did like that part, a very subtle, but nice touch to tie in a character many thought was omitted. Until then, the only sighting of Robin was only in the Rougues football trailer, where fans had signs spelling "Rogues", and the R was Robin style. That sign was cut from the finished product.

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    [QUOTE=MAStamper;1491512]I liked the Daredevil movie. Didn't love it, but liked it. I kept meaning to check out the director's cut but I've yet to do so. It's been long enough, I'd probably watch the theatrical and the director versions back to back to refresh my recollection and then to compare/contrast. Is the blu-ray copy worth it?
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    Not necessarily a plot hole, but I love that a nuclear bomb was roaming the streets of Gotham ticking away and Batman decides he has time to fashion a bat symbol on the side of a bridge in lighter fluid or whatever it was that caught on fire. It was an awesome moment for me in the theater and in subsequent viewings, but man that must have been time consuming as all hell

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