Where the heck did Simmons get the idea of "Congrats on locking down the no. 6 seed for the next few years"? Sure, many teams have shaken up their roster. But it does not mean that a team that looks strong on paper automatically puts them above what the Pacers have achieved last season. Until this season proved otherwise, the Pacers are still the strongest contenders for the East this year aside from Miami. The Brooklyn nets still needs to make me a believer. The Knicks are still a big disappointment. Chicago is heading on that direction too. Boston lost Allen but gained Terry, so it's still uncertain how that change will affect the team. Orlando is collapsing. Atlanta will probably go down with Johnson's departure. Philly is more of a threat than them. Then who else looks to overthrow Indiana?
Sometimes, it is disappointing how keeping your starting strong 5 together for another year (barring a trade on them of course) does not look an achievement in the eyes of the media. Danny being overpaid? He's a bargain compared to other players being paid to the same scale. Hibbert overpaid? His contract looks cheap when compared to an underachieving Lopez. Hill overpaid? Probably, but he's done more good to the team than any other same-tier FAs on their previous teams. So who is overpaid?
As for the "overpaid role players", is David West's impact on the team not worth his current contract? And don't forget he's now recovered as compared to last season. DJ Augustin is a 1-year guy that will certainly fight for his worth right now. Gerald Green is an absolute bargain given his role. And Mahinmi still hasn't made his first game as a PAcer so it's too early to tell if he's overpaid. So who are the overpaid guys?
he's just being consistent. From Simmons' POV, "no superstars + no flexibility = Hawks = #6".
And to be fair, he seems to have 5 teams including Indiana in one big "tier 2" as opposed to definite standings. Which I absolutely agree with. From the same article:
"The gods have no mercy. That's why they're gods."
This one's for the Bulls, who lost three valuable bench guys for financial reasons (Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer and Omer Asik), softened the blow for their fans by bringing back Kirk Hinrich (they love that dude), and now are crossing their fingers that Derrick Rose — who's reportedly "ahead of schedule," giving him something in common with every single NBA player who ever rehabbed a torn ACL (has anyone ever been "on schedule" or "a smidge behind schedule"?) — can return to form in time for the 2013 playoffs even though that's a two-year recovery and we learn this over and over and over again. What a bummer. Right now, there's a steep drop from Miami to the next five Eastern playoff contenders (Boston, Chicago, New York, Brooklyn and Indiana). It's just a fact.
In three years, Granger is in great decline and may not be on the team. Pat Riley will keep bringing in people to the Heat to keep them on top. All of the player know that James can carry a team to a championship like no other current player. There will always be a line to join him to win a title. I just don't see this big drop in Wade's game in the next three years. Playing with James is extending his career. He used to have to carry the entire load but it is LBJ's team now and Wade does not and will not have to do as much. Now, as for the Pacers, I don't see ownership spending any money to make them more than marginally better than they are. As long as they are a playoff team that can sometimes win a round in the playoffs, management will be content. You are back to the same problems. Miami can always get a superstar to play there. We can't get one to play in Indiana and if we drafted one that turned into a superstar, we would have the same trouble Orlando has in keeping him. I really don't see the Pacers getting a great deal better than they were this year. They are built to win during the season and then taking a quick seat when the playoffs come and rotations get shortened. Now if we could get Chris Paul or someone of that ilk that would change. I just don't see it ever happening. It is a miracle that Reggie Miller spent his whole career as a Pacer......
Is this thread evidence that Granger will be the scapegoat next year? I thought it would be Hibbert or Hill, but I'm sensing an upcoming Granger hater year.
i'm in the same bubble as the Indiana Pacers, man, so i'm sticking with the proper name
So if we paid Hill $6m a year and Hibbert $12m we wouldn't be the 6 seed even with the same players? I don't get it. At worst the Pacers stayed the same and no more than 2 teams who finished below the Pacers got better. 6th seed makes no sense to me.
Bummer our starting lineup that's 60% 25 years or younger has plateaued and won't get better whatsoever
I certainly think that, barring injuries, the Pacers will be a better team this year than last year. We have a great bench now, and the guys will have a whole year to play together. I also think Granger gets too much hate. People act like he is bad or even average. He most certainly is not, he is above average. He is not a superstar but no one is claiming he was. He is a borderline all star type guy. I think he will take fewer shots this season due to PG getting his game more together (hopefully) but he will shoot a better % than last year.