There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
As bad as Tyler has played (especially last season) it's not like the guy is COMPLETELY INEPT as some of us are suggesting. You don't average double figures in the NBA as a PF who has mainly played off the bench without having SOME TYPE of game. Has he regressed? Yes he has, but a lot of Tyler's game is when he's thinking too much. That's when the travels or up-fakes when he's open occurs.
A lot of people remember game one of the Chicago series where he almost won the game for us, and then went in the tank following that dunk-and-1. But what people forget is how well Tyler was playing in March and April leading up to that playoff series. Starting with a game against the Spurs in January (this is when Tyler finally began receiving steady PT as a starter) he averaged about 14 and 5. Yes the NBA may have him "figured out" but at this rate, as long as he hits that mid-range J, and works on his footwork, he's definitely a serviceable backup. I think the addition of Mahinmi will help Tyler as well, especially on defense.
Is he the long-term answer at the backup 4 spot? Probably not. This season will tell a lot......But to make it seem like Hans is just some scrub that couldn't get a backup spot elsewhere is absolutely crazy.
I don't think Tyler can change his game and adapt. I think the only way he'll ever stay on a roster is if he's money with his mid-range jumper.
Just hope he's traded before the trade deadline.
First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.
Augustin is going to make Tyler a better player book it.
If he can't be a long term backup power forward on a playoff team, he's not completely inept, but he's probably pretty bad.
If we were willing to dump DC/DJ for salary purposes, I don't see how we wouldn't be willing to do the same with a lesser contributor in Tyler.
I expect improvement
With the lock out and his vertigo issues Tyler has yet to have a full healthy offseason to work with the coaching staff and the rest of the team. I mean his ceiling is a solid back up 4, its not like expectations are high. I think he will meet those this season and then some.
Tyler disappoints mostly because of his low bball IQ. Other than hustle and getting to the line, he really lacks a lot of fundamentals and good sense.
He is terrible on help defense, slow to learn schemes, takes really bad shots, and doesn't have a sense for making a solid pass. He is much more interested in offense than defense, a typical mindset for a low bball IQ me-first type player.
This is deceptive, because we thought getting a hard working Tar Heel would have included a high bball IQ with all the fundamentals. It clearly did not. So, not only is he not that talented, he doesn't make good choices on the court. Kind of a train wreck all the way around.
Last edited by McKeyFan; 07-21-2012 at 07:10 AM.
Yeah, it's as if he never watches game tape of himself on the court either because unlike other players, he doesn't improve on very fixable problems. Sometimes he's Murphy bad on defense, and is just out of the way of opposing players in the lane.
Having Augustin setting him up may help his offensive game a bit if he learns to play the pick and roll. Biggest thing Tyler can do is get his mid range jumper to a consistent level, where it is a weapon every single night, instead of the once every 3 or so games that it falls now. When it is falling he looks leagues better than when it isn't, and it gives him the chance to drive when defenders have to respect that jumper.
They probably should move him if they can, but I can see them keeping him on this year to see what happens. The question remains, what can he do that Plumlee can't? Plumlee can certainly do things that Tyler can't.