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    Default Re: OKC Offers Harden and Ibaka for Dwight

    It'll be interesting to see how Dwight reacts if he's forced to stay in Orlando this year. He'll likely get plenty of boos from Magic fans.

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    His image has already taken a beating. His marketability will still be very high.
    Not if he runs away from Kevin Durant.

    Adidas won't want him running away from the most popular young team in the league, either.

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    Not if he runs away from Kevin Durant.

    Adidas won't want him running away from the most popular young team in the league, either.
    His endorsements would sky rocket if he and Durant teamed up. After they win a couple championships, I'm sure he'll forget about Brooklyn.

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    I really cant help but think that a deal is in place with Houston. I just cant see them releasing Scola without having an agreement. And I cant help but think theres some trickery involved with Scola...and the OKC thing is out there to throw people off.

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    Not if he runs away from Kevin Durant.

    Adidas won't want him running away from the most popular young team in the league, either.
    I'm not saying his marketability wouldn't be higher in Oklahoma. But it will be very high wherever he goes, especially if it's in a big market. For casual fans, players > teams.

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    If I'm Orlando and OKC is making this offer, I'd drive Dwight Howard to OKC.

    Also, if Dwight actually cares about having a legitimate shot at winning a title, he'd be more than happy to play for the Thunder. Otherwise, he'd just be like Carmelo and care less about winning a title or even winning in the playoffs and just be happy in the "big lights".

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    Id really kinda hate to see OKC's tax bill in a couple years if Howard re-signed there...so much for small markets not being able to compete and pay the lux tax...

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    Id really kinda hate to see OKC's tax bill in a couple years if Howard re-signed there...so much for small markets not being able to compete and pay the lux tax...
    to the opposite, resigning Harden and Ibaka = hard to stay under tax. Replace them with Howard, their payroll future would be much brighter.

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    to the opposite, resigning Harden and Ibaka = hard to stay under tax. Replace them with Howard, their payroll future would be much brighter.
    While I understand your line of thinking, I would tend to disagree. Simply because theyre almost assuredly gonna be paying the tax one way or another. With Dwight you add almost as much salary in one player as you would in the two of them. Leaving one more spot to fill...either way, theyre gonna be paying the tax...with Dwight it just means they will be paying it even more sooner than later.

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    I'm not saying his marketability wouldn't be higher in Oklahoma. But it will be very high wherever he goes, especially if it's in a big market. For casual fans, players > teams.
    ...and none of the casual fans will like dwight leaving the most popular and heavily marketed player in the NBA.

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    While I understand your line of thinking, I would tend to disagree. Simply because theyre almost assuredly gonna be paying the tax one way or another. With Dwight you add almost as much salary in one player as you would in the two of them. Leaving one more spot to fill...either way, theyre gonna be paying the tax...with Dwight it just means they will be paying it even more sooner than later.
    Dwight's starting salary in 2013 would be ~20.2 mil. Harden is bound to get max offers, which are likely to start at ~14.5 mil next summer. I don't know if Ibaka gets max or not, but either way, Dwight would be much cheaper.

    Now, i don't know if they WILL pay tax or not. That's up to them. But you are saying that they will "almost assuredly" have to go over tax, which is not true.
    If they give Howard his max in 2013-14, Howard/Durant/Westbrook will be under 52 mil combined. While the tax line is bound to be above 70 mil that year.
    So they'll have 20 mil, more than enough to add role players.
    Their salaries will keep growing every year, but so will the tax line.

    My bet is that they stay under the tax most of the time. Like the Spurs, who stay under tax unless there's some amazing deal available.

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