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    I guess it's only one year, because he was a starter before, so maybe he wants to see, if he can get another opportunity after this year on another team.

    He'll probably end up the starter here.

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    Great move, I knew that a deal like this was coming after yesterdays "questionable" deals. I actually think all things considering, our front office did a great job. We have two back-up centers and you have to think at least one of them will pan out...that is probably what our FO is thinking. Moving Dahntay/Collison just made sense..we didn't have the minutes for Dahntay and Collison wasn't going to be kept. Augustin has to be considered one of the better back-up PG's in the league, you can't complain about that and it's a one year deal! If Gerald Green can even come close to realizing some of his potential, then this offseason was a great success.
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    I'm glad they got Augustin considering they were out a PG, but if you would have asked me a week ago what I thought about essentially replacing DC with Augustin, I would have said "meh, probably not". Still don't think this really addresses the problem at PG. But I suppose it's unfair to expect a flawless team.

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    The only thing that would make this signing better is if Hans was a part of the deal.
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    I think we're going to be back to looking for a starting PG again next summer.

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    Default Re: Pacers get DJ Augustin for one year

    Pacers give away a pg for free.

    Sign another mediocre point guard for more money.

    Am I missing how this is a good thing?
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    ALRIGHT! The 6' PG that shot 37% from the field on the 7 win team?! NICE.

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    Darren Collison 1878:2 105.4 102.3 3.1 49.4 - 32.6 17.1 19.3 0.8 20.9 23.8 1.1
    D.J. Augustin 1408:28 96.7 111.3 -14.6 10 - 72 19.4 23.5 0.9 21.8 22.4 1.1
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    I think we're going to be back to looking for a starting PG again next summer.
    Yeah.

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    Tons of RFA, but those are off limits.

    Not exactly great. I would think a trade would be the only way. 2013 Draft is bare of pgs.
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    Augustin is an upgrade over Collison at backup PG
    Mahimi is an upgrade over Lou Amundson at backup PF/C
    Gerald Green is an upgrade over Dahntay Jones at backup SG/SF

    So they have kept their starting 5 completely in tact and ungraded the 6th, 7th, and 8th men?

    #9 = Hansbrough, #10= Barbosa; both figure to be gone soon.

    Lance Stevenson also appears ready to be a rotation player at SG maybe even PG, primed to fill Barbosa's minutes.

    A better top 9?

    No complaints, really. Odd that DJ's deal is one year, but I think we could be about done, unless an intriguing fit hits amnesty, like Scola.
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    The point here is distribution. DJ passes, DC didn't. DJ's court vision is way better, but the players he was on the court with couldn't execute after the pass. I think it's a good pickup, and he'll be good with Green and Plumlee on the court. He may end up earning the starting point guard spot, in the rare occasion that Hill starts at the 2, and PG at the 3.
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    It's a nice middleground compromise I think on both sides this way if augustin does suck we can ship him out at the end of the season if he plays better than expected he can test free agency again next year...It's 3.5 mil for just one year, everyone just take some deep breaths.

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    Back up 2 guard
    Start Augustin and Hill solves that problem.

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    The point here is distribution. DJ passes, DC didn't. DJ's court vision is way better, but the players he was on the court with couldn't execute after the pass. I think it's a good pickup, and he'll be good with Green and Plumlee on the court. He may end up earning the starting point guard spot, in the rare occasion that Hill starts at the 2, and PG at the 3.
    Take a look at DJ's numbers. He shoots more often than DC and at a much worse clip.

    Also, our system does not allow for a great number of assists by our pgs. DJ's assist numbers will be down, that's a guarantee.
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    I would think Hill and DJ would be getting at least 30 min a game.

    Hill will play his extra time as the back-up SG. - Green mostly SF, but some SG...

    Looks like a really nice 9 man rotation.
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    We needed at least one player that at least resembled a distributor. Didn't have one last year. This may do the trick.
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    He'll probably end up the starter here.
    i doubt it. i see this as a fill in until lance is ready to play. if lance makes good progress, DJ will be taking AJ's place.

    if lance isn't ready, then the pacers will be looking for a backup PG next summer. This is a short term move to fill a need, not a long term solution. If the Pacers were interested in him long term, they would've offered a longer contract.
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    Great move, modest contract. Now, how much do we have left. Can we still sign another shooter and or resign barbs? Who could we hip Hans potentially for as a recognized 2?

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    All of a sudden our FO looks sexy again for all ya panicing PDmembers???

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    DJ and Green are going to bring highlights to the second unit.

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    i doubt it. i see this as a fill in until lance is ready to play. if lance makes good progress, DJ will be taking AJ's place.

    Still not sold on Lance. Summer league all star means nothing to me.

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    Seems pretty clear to me that the FO decided at some point that it ("it" being the acquisition of a real difference-maker) wasn't going to happen this summer, and therefore they set about to prepare for next summer. Moving Collison was clearly a salary dump, since we could have gotten Mahinmi outright as an FA - and it is the 2nd year out where Collison's salary mattered - and now they sign Augustin to one year.

    Frankly I think this is really the right approach. If you have one bullet, one chance to sign some star-like player to a big long deal, do you really want that bullet to be used up on Eric Gordon or OJ Mayo? If Bird thought it should be Gordon, then I'm with Simon. The other consideration is that we already have, by all accounts, a very intriguing SG entering his third year, that being Paul George. Players usually make their biggest 'leaps' in their first and second offseasons, and after that they tend to be who they are. Basically, we're going to find out who Paul George is this year, and now we are set to have a ton of flexibillity next summer to act with that knowledge in hand. And, we already know that what we have is a very good team, so a low-risk strategy was called for anyhow.

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    All of a sudden our FO looks sexy again for all ya panicing PDmembers???

    Pritch knows what he's doing.

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    Perhaps the one year deal could workout well for both us and DJ. With the acquisitions of Green and Augustine, Lance will have to wait yet another year for his chance at the rotation. Another year of learning and working can only help, so by next year maybe he'll be ready to take over as the back-up PG/SG next year.

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    I also love that we are getting another young guy and not some over the hill vet, I hope we keep him.

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