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  • vnzla81
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 68188

    We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

    OK so after all the trades the Pacers made yesterday it looks like we still need a backup point guard, a big SF defender to guard Lebron, a shot creator and a PF/C that can play D, list a name of player that we can get? and is there another position you think we need to improve?
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  • Psyren
    Batman's New Side Kick
    • Aug 2008
    • 2605

    #2
    Cj Watson.

    Hill
    George
    Granger
    West
    Hib

    Watson
    Barbosa (still think hed come cheap)
    Green
    Mahinmi
    Plumlee
    Stephenson
    Johnson
    Fes ()
    Stop quoting people I have on ignore!

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    • joew8302
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 9561

      #3
      Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

      vnzla,

      I know you agree with me here. I think Jose Calderon is a guy who is realistic that would help us out quite a bit. I like him better than Watson or Augustin.

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      • *astrisk*
        Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 485

        #4
        Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

        Originally posted by vnzla81
        OK so after all the trades the Pacers made yesterday it looks like we still need a backup point guard, a big SF defender to guard Lebron, a shot creator and a PF/C that can play D, list a name of player that we can get? and is there another position you think we need to improve?
        Did I miss any other trades? I thought we just made one trade yesterday...

        Win Brand, trade Hans for Augustin... Go to ECF... That's it, that's the list...

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        • vnzla81
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 68188

          #5
          Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

          Originally posted by joew8302
          vnzla,

          I know you agree with me here. I think Jose Calderon is a guy who is realistic that would help us out quite a bit. I like him better than Watson or Augustin.
          Me too but I don't know if the Pacers are willing to take into his 8mil salary.
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          • Trader Joe
            DIET COKE!
            • Jan 2006
            • 46914

            #6
            Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

            Well the first thing we need to do is be sure we sign Green, and then we either need to complete this Augustin deal or try to make something similar happen, we need a backup PG.


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            • Cubs231721
              Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 3814

              #7
              Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

              Originally posted by vnzla81
              Me too but I don't know if the Pacers are willing to take into his 8mil salary.
              It's even worse than that. Calderon makes 10.56 million this year. The Pacers would likely have to send Hansbrough to even have enough cap room to absorb Calderon's contract (assuming they sign Green), and that move would be the end of their cap room.

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              • vnzla81
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 68188

                #8
                Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                If we don't get Augustin I think we should go after Watson, we also need a defender that can help against Bosh, Griffin and those type of guys, Jared Jeffries could be cheap, bring Barbosa back as our shot creator(another cheap option) and we also need a guy that can help against Lebron.
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                • DrFife
                  Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 2372

                  #9
                  Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                  Originally posted by vnzla81
                  OK so after all the trades the Pacers made yesterday it looks like we still need a backup point guard, a big SF defender to guard Lebron, a shot creator and a PF/C that can play D, list a name of player that we can get? and is there another position you think we need to improve?
                  Yay, Vnzla - I agree! ... although I'd put more of a premium on a back-up big who can score:

                  Projecting that Dallas will bid high for Brand, Option 1 is to land Scola if indeed he is amnestied within the next few days. In either case, we'll need to be frugal in signing a back-up PG. (It'd be more fun to see Lance win that role anyway.) Clearly the most cost-effective option, even beyond next season.

                  To carry the baton for PacerGod2's idea, Option 2 is to trade Hans (if he's not traded for Augustin) & next year's pic to Utah for Paul Milsap, who has just one year left on his contract ($8.6M on Shamsports, $7.2M on Hoopshype) and clearly doesn't have a future there. No one can truly guard LeBron, but I'd like to have Milsap's muscle on him for short periods of time.

                  Option 3 ... suggestions?


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                  • Speed
                    Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 9266

                    #10
                    Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                    Originally posted by Trader Joe
                    Well the first thing we need to do is be sure we sign Green, and then we either need to complete this Augustin deal or try to make something similar happen, we need a backup PG.
                    Yep, at this moment, back up PG is the #1 priority after losing DC.

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                    • Slick Pinkham
                      Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10647

                      #11
                      Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                      Isn't Green big enough and athletic enough to guard Lebron about as well as Danny did? I would hope that Danny, Gerald, Paul, and George Hill are collectively the defenders of Lebron and Wade, as it stands now.

                      I suspect that if we strike out on Augustin, our final PG will be a low-end cheap option such as John Lucas III or his equivalent.
                      The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                      • Speed
                        Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 9266

                        #12
                        Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                        Originally posted by Slick Pinkham
                        Isn't Green big enough and athletic enough to guard Lebron about as well as Danny did? I would hope that Danny, Gerald, Paul, and George Hill are collectively the defenders of Lebron and Wade, as it stands now.

                        I suspect that if we strike out on Augustin, our final PG will be a low-end cheap option such as John Lucas III or his equivalent.
                        My first thought on Green was he was a small forward who could play some 2, so I agree.

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                        • Trader Joe
                          DIET COKE!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 46914

                          #13
                          Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                          Originally posted by vnzla81
                          If we don't get Augustin I think we should go after Watson, we also need a defender that can help against Bosh, Griffin and those type of guys, Jared Jeffries could be cheap, bring Barbosa back as our shot creator(another cheap option) and we also need a guy that can help against Lebron.
                          Who do you have in mind as a guy that could help against Lebron? Those don't exactly grow on trees.


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                          • Sparhawk
                            Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 6290

                            #14
                            Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                            Delonte West
                            Ronnie Brewer
                            First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                            • BillS
                              Angry Old Poster
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21660

                              #15
                              Re: We still need more pieces, who can those pieces be?

                              Originally posted by Trader Joe
                              Who do you have in mind as a guy that could help against Lebron? Those don't exactly grow on trees.
                              I thought every team but the Pacers had one.
                              BillS

                              A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                              Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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