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    So many people have posted this that he has now become overrated on here. Congrats, guys. Really a team effort.
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    Carlisle apparently liked him in Dallas. No idea what happened with his departure there.

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    So many people have posted this that he has now become overrated on here. Congrats, guys. Really a team effort.
    Hey at least nobody has mention that he is an "smashmouth" player yet

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    cdash doesn't like, but I bet you will.
    I don't like it, I don't hate it. Mainly just playing devil's advocate at this point. In the grand scheme of things, it's a fairly minor contract for a guy who will get less than 20 mpg off the bench. Hard to have truly strong feelings either way.

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    Carlisle apparently liked him in Dallas. No idea what happened with his departure there.
    Green shot the ball poorly in his sporadic minutes there. Ultimately they just decided to go another way. He's a streaky shooter, so don't get too down on him when he's not making his shots, or too high on him when he is.

    A Gerald Green fan who now finds himself rooting for the Suns.

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    I don't buy that he suddenly "gets it" or that he even "worked his *** off" so much as he was humbled by the experience of having to go overseas. Is he really a better player, or did he catch lightning in a bottle? We shall see.

    Don't forget Dahntay Jones got cut from the NBA then went to the CBA and then worked his way back to the NBA also.

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    There's a lot of Pritch-slapping going on these past few hours....

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    I like this acquisition. Unfortunately, our other moves have made me otherwise apathetic.

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    Don't forget Dahntay Jones got cut from the NBA then went to the CBA and then worked his way back to the NBA also.
    Point taken, but here's my thing with Dahntay: He's a veteran who plays solid defense and is good in the locker room. You know what you are getting out of him. Green is a wildcard to me.

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    Or he just kept playing basketball with his insane athletic gifts and was offered a chance by an NBA team going nowhere fast.

    I don't buy that he suddenly "gets it" or that he even "worked his *** off" so much as he was humbled by the experience of having to go overseas. Is he really a better player, or did he catch lightning in a bottle? We shall see.
    You don't buy that an 18 year old matured after failing? Why not? its the normal thing to do.

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    You could take that back a couple of steps and say he turned being a 1st round pick into a a 10 day contract too.
    Yep, some were hoping he would drop to us when we picked Danny Granger. We made the right pick then. Now if he has his head on straight as advertised, we made the right pick again.

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    I'll refrain from saying how I truly feel about Gerald Green as a Pacer.

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    I like this acquisition. Unfortunately, our other moves have made me otherwise apathetic.
    My thoughts exactly.. I can't stop laughing and crying at the same time.

    I was actually was planning on going to bed happy tonight before I checked PD. Now I think I should take a Ace Ventura shower and chew a wad of gum to get this taste out of my mouth.

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    You don't buy that an 18 year old matured after failing? Why not? its the normal thing to do.
    I buy that he matured, albeit he was much older than 18 when he did it. I just don't buy that he is a significantly better basketball player.

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    I remember in the 2005 draft when it came to the 17th pick and the Pacers were lucky enough to have BOTH Granger and Green to choose from.....now....7 years later...we have both.
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    Or he just kept playing basketball with his insane athletic gifts and was offered a chance by an NBA team going nowhere fast.

    I don't buy that he suddenly "gets it" or that he even "worked his *** off" so much as he was humbled by the experience of having to go overseas. Is he really a better player, or did he catch lightning in a bottle? We shall see.

    People can dislike him for personal reasons, but read this article before you do, and look at how he has acted since being back in the league. He doesn't force the issue as much, he is more open to coaching and doing whatever it takes to stick.

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    You can hate him for personal reasons, but read this article before you do.
    I don't hate the guy at all. I'm rooting like hell for him to succeed. I am just not sold on him yet. That's it. It is nothing personal.

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    I know there is a lot of hate on Gerald Green right now, but I love this signing. I think he fits better than either Mayo or Lee.

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    I know there is a lot of hate on Gerald Green right now, but I love this signing. I think he fits better than either Mayo or Lee.
    who's hating on Green? I feel like A LOT more people are hating on Mahinmi...

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    Gerald Green has officially agreed to a contract with the Indiana#Pacers. Great move, bringing in scoring off the bench.
    I think that guy just reiterates news reported elsewhere, FYI.

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    I actually prefer Dahntay to Gerald Green.
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    Hey all, I'm new here. As a long time Gerald Green fan, I figure I may be able to help shed some light on what he can bring to the table.

    I'd start by saying to put aside any doubts you might have about his work ethic/attitude/maturity. These were all issues early in his career, mainly due to an oversized ego and a situation in Boston that wasn't great for his development or growth. If there was a turning point in his career, it was getting cut by Houston, there's no doubt that moment really made him re-evaluate things. Most people will say he matured in Europe, but I think the early signs of him starting to get his act together were with the Mavs. He didn't shoot the ball, and thus ended up out of the rotation, and eventually out of the NBA, but from his time with the Mavs on he's worked tremendously hard and approached things with a refreshing attitude (especially compared to his attitude earlier in his career). With that said, I'll break down his game into some strengths and weaknesses for you guys.

    Strengths:
    Spot up shooting - Stand him around the three point arc and he'll happily hit open jumpers all day. Don't think that he's just some athletic freak who doesn't know how to shoot the ball. He's a shooter first, and an athlete second.
    Scoring off screens - I don't see a lot of these types of plays called for him, but he shoots effectively off screens, and is also hard to stop when he comes off a screen and takes a few dribbles towards the basket.
    Post up game - This is where most of his hard work really shows. He's developed a really, really nice turnaround jumper out of the post up, as well as a nice jump stop into the lane where he impressively elevates above defenders to get his shot off.
    Attacking off one or two dribbles - Get him the ball in a position where he can get to the rim in one or two dribbles and he can really do some damage.
    Finishing in transition - This should be pretty self explanatory with his athleticism.
    Man to man defense - He uses his size and athleticism effectively to bother guys on defense. He's very active on that end now, though he does tend to commit some iffy fouls from time to time.

    Weaknesses:
    Handling the ball - A couple dribbles and he's ok, but if you have him trying to break down defenders off the dribble he's going to commit some turnovers. Offensively he's more of a SF than SG.
    Creating for others - As an extension of the above weakness, he's rarely going to create shots for other guys. It's not that he's a black hole, he really isn't, and he's more than capable of keeping the ball moving within an offense, he just isn't very good at creating off the dribble and finding guys.
    Rebounding - This is sort of iffy. I think a lot of it is simply teams having him leak out early to get out on the break. When he crashes the glass he doesn't seem to have any issue using his athleticism and height to grab boards.
    Over helping on defense - He tends to leave his guy or sag too far off his man, leaving them more open then they should be for spot up shots. Hopefully coaches recognize this early and fix it.
    Drawing Fouls - This is probably the biggest complaint with him. You'd think with his athleticism he'd be a great slasher who gets to the rim and draws fouls. Unfortunately, in the half court, this really doesn't happen very often. His mediocre ball handling prevents him from getting to the rim at will, and he simply doesn't seem very good at drawing fouls when he gets there. Seems to use his athleticism more to avoid contact than to create it.
    Streaky - He's a shooter, and by virtue, he's a guy who's going to have cold spells and hot streaks. Don't get too down on him during the cold spells, or too high on him during the hot streaks.


    All in all, he's a guy who can get you some points in a hurry and do so relatively efficiently in the right situations. He's a high energy player who isn't really going to hurt you any where on the court and should be a nice weapon off the bench as a scorer and guy who can change the flow of a game.


    Random bonus fact that I'm sure a few of you know: He's missing his right ring finger on his shooting hand due to an accident he had as a kid while trying to dunk on a mini hoop. Might explain why he's not so great handling the ball, but pretty amazing considering that he's an NBA player and quality shooter.
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    I guess I missed this. If we got Green and Augustin, I won't hate the Collison trade as much.

    That trade was the first thing I saw and it made no sense to me.

    We definitely need another point guard behind Hill though.

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    Well imbtyler must be happy...

    But seriously great signing. 3.3 million a year is way better than OJ Mayo/Lee who I doubt will be that much better. I'll miss Dahntay Jones, but Green looks like a guy who can help prevent our bench from going on those annoying dry spells...

    Btw how did he shoot 48% last season?? That's crazy good.

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    I've always liked his game and I'm pleased with the signing. Knowing he was absent from the league for 3 years, it could be a new beginning for him after he turned heads in regular season games with the Nets last season.

    He's still only 26 and I've always felt he'd make his way back in the league as a serviceable wingman one way or another.

    For what we're bringing him in for, this is a nice signing. 3 years/$10M.

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