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    * Salary dump, we weren't going to pay DC so we turned him into what a solid backup big
    i honestly think we could have done better than a solid backup big for both dc and jones.


    * Ian Mahinmi I think is going to be a great backup big. I'm excited. Very athletic, has good per 36 numbers, has grown a lot and I think this season is his big breakout season
    people on mavs forum say he has problems with staying on court due to picking up fouls quickly.

    i don't know man my heart wants this guy to be good. but my mind says this is just an awful trade.

    i'm pleased with green signing btw.

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    i honestly think we could have done better than a solid backup big for both dc and jones.




    people on mavs forum say he has problems with staying on court due to picking up fouls quickly.

    i don't know man my heart wants this guy to be good. but my mind says this is just an awful trade.

    i'm pleased with green signing btw.
    I think we could have gotten more out of DC too, but considering it was a salary dump I don't mind it. I mean you can't necessarily consider talent for talent- Dallas also took on DJ's contract. Also, I think Green completely replaces DC's scoring off the bench. I really think this is going to work out. I think the bench got better.

    Instead of last season this team was having it's front court get beat because they were undersized, 3-5, this team has size now 3-5. Real good news.
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    Wow...a lot of people overreacting and a lot of people overreact because of them...PD is a funny place to lose your nerves!

    When we saw this years playoffs, everybody agreed, that it was our bench that sucked up badly from time to time.
    I watched an interview with Bryan Shaw at summerleague yesterday, and he admitted that our starting 5 was solid, but we need better bench production.
    Our FO told us that our main targets for the offseason were retaining Hibbert and Hill!

    So now we retained both of them and had to pay, because in this league you have to pay a bigman a max contract and your starting PG has to get a load of money too.
    After that, our FO addresses the bench needs.
    Who was bad in the playoffs? Lou and Hansbrough. So we obviously need a backup PF/C and Plumlee needs some time to develop.
    We got that PF/C in Mahinmi to a reasonable price over 4 years, where we can work with him. Remember Hibbert got the same problems with fouling out in 10 minutes, so maybe he can give Mahinmi some advice how to stop that. I also think he will learn a lot from DWest too.
    We gave up DC and DJ, whom I both liked as persons and players, but I think we handled the situation pretty well, because we gave them to a team, where DC can start with a good cast around him. We couldnt retain DC, that was clear since we signed Hill, developed Lances' skills and went strongly after Mayo.
    I don't consider that a bad move at all.
    Now we obviously got Gerald Green. I don't know if he is good or not, cause I didn't saw him play, but I guess he can be as good as Dahntay Jones. I think there are still some interesting moves to come, so please turn on your LarryBirdPatienceButton PD members !
    I like it, that we form a team that is athletic and has really good size at every position!
    I hope Collison and Dahntay will succeed, really good guys!!!

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    I got off of work and read through this whole thread and all I gotta say is wow....

    So, apparently people that hated Collison and ripped on him all year are calling him a legit point guard... interesting.

    I think Mahnmi was a good pickup because he can backup Roy/D-West and is athletic and very defensive based and can explode at the rim on offense. I mean yeah, he might be foul-prone, but wasn't Roy Hibbert at one point? Roy will be a great mentor for the young fella.

    If the Gerald Green thing is actually true, then I am pretty excited. Sure he might not be the sexy pickup like O.J. Mayo (who I did want), but he has always intrigued me and is a better backup SF than Dahntay Jones and has Paul George's athletic ability.

    If we truly do get Augustin that makes up for the loss of DC and then some. It always seemed like Augustin lit us up when we played Charlotte. It will be intriguing to see what he does on a winning team where he has more serviceable guys to pass to.

    All in all these moves have me more excited than most and people shouldn't overreact until you see what these guys do on the court. Also, we just got REALLY athletic.
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    Mavs fan here but I mean you all no troll.

    Like Collison's upside.
    We did too once upon a time.

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    DC is great in the right system, we weren't building around DC and he wasn't the right fit. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't get basketball. Sometimes players don't ft the mold.

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    We would have lost many games without him.

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    I got off of work and read through this whole thread and all I gotta say is wow....

    So, apparently people that hated Collison and ripped on him all year are calling him a legit point guard... interesting.
    My thoughts exactly. Fans are funny - especially Pacer fans. When a guy's on our team he sucks but when he's traded he suddenly becomes an all star in people's minds. DC was roasted on this board and he's traded and that's not good enough either.

    Obviously there is some things in the works. So far I like the FO's approach to things - they have handled things perfectly so far. The Hibbert situation could not have went any better and somehow they convinced Hill to not even talk to any other team.
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    Ian Mahimni is a dependable backup Forward - Center. He has size and he is athletic. He will keep the defense honest since he is more than capable of stuffing it when he sees an open lane.

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    He is also a decent FT shooter. His career average is 69.1% and that's quite good for a backup F-C.

    So, I think that this trade means that we don't bring back Lou. I like Lou but I can understand how the FO sees Mahimni as an upgrade over him. He is bigger, equally athletic, can finish inside better and can shoot FTs better.

    Of course, I don't like the package we sent to Dallas to get Mahimni. But I like Mahimni so I'll welcome him

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    DC is great in the right system, we weren't building around DC and he wasn't the right fit. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't get basketball. Sometimes players don't ft the mold.
    DC was great and I'm grateful for all the help that he gave us. This trade doesn't feel like it gave us the right value.

    But this trade is made in order to make other things happen. Like the Gerald Green signing. Or something else that we have yet to see.

    The FO brought back our RFAs and now is making moves to free up space and do something more. They have a plan. I like it

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    https://twitter.com/dahntay1Indiana is definitely a place I will always remember. Happy to see my guys @StephensonLance and @King24George grow into great players &men
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    So now the Plumlee pick looks pretty damn stupid

    No, he is a rookie who was taken 26th. You shouldn't have expected him to play regular rotation minutes on a 50 plus win team

    On Mahinmi - everytime I saw him play I was impressed, as in wow, I wish we had him and could help him develope his game because he has real talent.

    I'm excited. Collison wasn't in the long range plans, we just signed George Hill to be a 30 plus minute a game player
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    My thoughts exactly. Fans are funny - especially Pacer fans. When a guy's on our team he sucks but when he's traded he suddenly becomes an all star in people's minds. DC was roasted on this board and he's traded and that's not good enough either.

    Obviously there is some things in the works. So far I like the FO's approach to things - they have handled things perfectly so far. The Hibbert situation could not have went any better and somehow they convinced Hill to not even talk to any other team.
    I don't think most people now believe DC is awesome, they think he was worth more than what we got. We turned a young PG that has started the majority of his career into a backup C. That's not great value IMO. I was fine with trading DC, I just expected it to be as part of a package that netted us a more impactful player.

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    DC is great in the right system, we weren't building around DC and he wasn't the right fit. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't get basketball. Sometimes players don't ft the mold.
    I guess 29 GMs don't get basketball (DC's low market value).
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    Unlike after sleeping on the Plumlee pick, I really like Mahinmi. Athletic, pretty good defender, potential. I'm okay with this now if we get a quality backup PG.

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    I don't think most people now believe DC is awesome, they think he was worth more than what we got. We turned a young PG that has started the majority of his career into a backup C. That's not great value IMO. I was fine with trading DC, I just expected it to be as part of a package that netted us a more impactful player.
    His value did get us more than a back up big. His value enabled us to shed DJ's salary in order to sign Green. Green, Mahinmi for DJ, DC seems very fair to me.

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    I don't think most people now believe DC is awesome, they think he was worth more than what we got. We turned a young PG that has started the majority of his career into a backup C. That's not great value IMO. I was fine with trading DC, I just expected it to be as part of a package that netted us a more impactful player.
    DC was big time overrated here, he was a decent backup point guard nothing else, his value is what it is, we are lucky a team like Dallas decided to give us a nice backup center for a guy that can be replace by either one of the point guards that are free agents at the moment.

    To me Felton, Ramon and Brooks are better point guards than DC, why Dallas decided to give us a potential backup center of the future for him? I have no idea.

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    I have mixed feelings about this trade. If it had been just Dahntay for Mahinmi, I'd feel alot better about it. I just feel this was Walsh overpaying again. Surely to goodness Collison could have brought better value than Mahinmi. I feel the Pacers just gave Collison away.

    I remember when the Spurs brought Mahinmi over from Europe. What better teacher could he have had than Tim Duncan? Yet, he didn't manage to stick and grow there. Makes one wonder why.

    The Pacers are becoming the laughing stock of the NBA with Bird drafting Plum Jam, giving away Collison for Mahinmi, and overpaying for Hill. To me I see Walsh's fingerprints all over the forementioned. I like the Gerald Green p/u, but I see Walsh buying off the rack in the bargain basement to save money. I was TOTALLY against Walsh coming back to the Pacers and expressed my feelings vehemently about not wanting him in the Pacers organization again. I can't say I'm overly impressed with what's been accomplished so far, but maybe something more is on the way to even it out. I sure hope so!

    It will be interesting to see how Walsh handles the PG situation. I don't have high hopes of the Hans for Augustin trade, b/c it's with the Bobcats. Bobcats/MJ are more fickle than a young teenage girl. We've been down that path with them before only to have them backout at the last minute. JMOAA

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    DC was big time overrated here, he was a decent backup point guard nothing else, his value is what it is, we are lucky a team like Dallas decided to give us a nice backup center for a guy that can be replace by either one of the point guards that are free agents at the moment.

    To me Felton, Ramon and Brooks are better point guards than DC, why Dallas decided to give us a potential backup center of the future for him? I have no idea.
    DC is 24 and cheap. They probably believe he still has potential to get better, whereas the other guys are what they are. While I agree that DC would be best as a backup PG, let's not act like he did nothing positive here either. He did start for us the majority of the last 2 seasons, and he was a great spark off the bench in the playoffs. Dude played hard, and his teammates really liked him. We'll see if the Pacers can get done whatever it is they were planning to do. If they use this extra cap space for nothing then this was a wasted asset IMO.

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    Wow. I almost shed a tear. There's a man with some perspective and future thinking. Like beyond basketball.
    Dahntay's definitely a classy guy. I'm going to miss his energy and passion, even when he was on the bench.

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    DC was big time overrated here, he was a decent backup point guard nothing else, his value is what it is, we are lucky a team like Dallas decided to give us a nice backup center for a guy that can be replace by either one of the point guards that are free agents at the moment.

    To me Felton, Ramon and Brooks are better point guards than DC, why Dallas decided to give us a potential backup center of the future for him? I have no idea.
    Wanted to thank this with a post. Kudo's to V81 for being consistent. Too many other 'DC Haters' are now trade haters. vnzla takes a lot of for being only a complainer. But not in this case.

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    Now that I have time to think about it, I'm liking what our FO is doing, I don't think Larry trades DC and DJ, I always thought he overrated our players the same way people in PD do, the best time to trade DC would have been last year when his value was high but of course we waited for his value to be low to trade him.

    At least now we know that our FO doesn't have this fake "core players" bs that Larry was a master of, it even looks like they are trying to move Tyler and I don't believe Larry would have done that.

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    I don't think most people now believe DC is awesome, they think he was worth more than what we got. We turned a young PG that has started the majority of his career into a backup C. That's not great value IMO. I was fine with trading DC, I just expected it to be as part of a package that netted us a more impactful player.
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    Who Is Ian Mahinmi?

    by Jared Wade on July 12, 2012 at 9:31 am · 5 comments

    The newest Pacer is someone with whom many Hoosiers many not be familiar. He has never put up high numbers and rarely been featured on Sportscenter. But he has been a solid rotation player for much of the past two years and did mop up some quality minutes in the NBA Finals when the Mavericks beat the Heat. He is also generally viewed positively by those who have played with and coached him, and he still has a lot of room to improve as a player, even though he will never break out into someone who really should ever be starting for a contender.
    For more, I reached out to Rob Mahoney with some questions.
    Mahoney literally wrote the book on the Dallas Mavericks’ 2011 NBA Title and probably has written the equivalent of 40 more books on the Mavs over at The Two-Man Game in the past few years. He is also among the top half dozen or so NBA writers on the planet and proves it day after day for The New York Times, Bleacher Report, and The Classical, among others. (Follow him on Twitter.)
    Here is our Q&A on Ian Mahinmi. (Pronounced Yan MY-ee-me, FYI.)
    How would you describe Ian Mahinmi to someone who has never seen him play?

    Rob Mahoney: Ian deciphers basketball as if it were a foreign language — fitting for a French national attempting to find his way through the most innately American game. He’s come a long way since his days as raw material for the San Antonio Spurs’ developmental complex, but that doesn’t mean the game comes naturally to him or that his athleticism makes anything simple. Mahinmi has some impressive physical tools, but he plays as if he’s solely the product of what he’s learned, with no instinctive basis to call his own.
    That said, Mahinmi has put together a nice little repertoire over the years. He grew into a wonderful pick-and-roll finisher opposite Jason Terry. He worked on his mid-range touch and became relatively consistent in spotting up from about 15 feet. He honed a post move or two even if he hasn’t gotten much of a chance to work from the block. He’s a mobile defender, and active shot blocker, and a hard worker. Some elements of the game (bits of defensive judgment, box-out technique, etc.) just manage to escape him.
    My general assessment may seem negative, but that’s hardly my intent. Mahinmi is just a student of the game — a term I use not to indicate that he’s a basketball junkie, but simply that his knowledge base (and his effectiveness) is still growing, as it has been over the last several seasons.
    What did he contribute to the Mavs over the past two years?

    Rob Mahoney: Mahinmi chipped in solid minutes as a reserve big for Dallas, first as a third center and more recently as a member of a triumvirate that split minutes at the position. His flaws are more apparent the longer he stays on the floor, but with regulated playing time, Mahinmi brings a nice infusion of energy, some decent catch-and-finish potential, and active defense. He doesn’t have any standout strengths, but legitimately does many things quite well.
    Why did Dallas seemingly have such disinterest in bringing him back? Was it totally due to wanting to maintain cap flexibility and not commit anything to a role player? Were there other reasons?

    Rob Mahoney: Mostly that; Brandan Wright’s emergence has made Mahinmi a bit expendable in Dallas, and that development compounded with the Mavs’ salary considerations made bringing back Mahinmi improbable at the least. My understanding is that Mahinmi was looking for a multi-year deal, and with Dallas unable to oblige and a few other teams interested (Indiana obviously included), a split was almost inevitable.
    How do you see him fitting in behind Roy Hibbert and David West?

    Rob Mahoney: Pretty well, though he’s hardly a cure-all. The rebounding deficit could prove to be a bit problematic, though Mahinmi is nevertheless a better overall fit than Tyler Hansbrough or Lou Amundson by way of his defense. Offensively, I’m not sure who couldn’t fit in with such versatile bigs; Hibbert and West are both so high-low flexible, and while Mahinmi doesn’t have some particular patch of real estate to call his own, he should do well in revolving around either Pacer big man.

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