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    that is a problem then, because history shows, the Pacers nearly always draft someone they worked out
    There is still a week to go...

    Also it sounds like Pritchard is running the draft this year, so his approach may be different than Bird.
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    THis may have been mentioned, but i didnt feel like reading 50 pages of posts....what do y'all think of Shane Larkin replacing DJ Augustine, and seeing if he can develop to eventually replace Hill?

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    THis may have been mentioned, but i didnt feel like reading 50 pages of posts....what do y'all think of Shane Larkin replacing DJ Augustine, and seeing if he can develop to eventually replace Hill?

    It's already been discussed. Not many in favor of drafting Larkin.

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    Gotta say im not to impressed with the people the P's are working out Where is Bullock, Dieng, Caanaan.
    Eh, we'll be working out lots of prospects yet between now and draft time.

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    Gotta say im not to impressed with the people the P's are working out Where is Bullock, Dieng, Caanaan.
    Canaan's been in for a solo workout I'm pretty sure

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    There is still a week to go...

    Also it sounds like Pritchard is running the draft this year, so his approach may be different than Bird.
    Kevin have a history of draft day deals. Doc Rivers & KG are getting a #1 selection. Could Pacers trade Granger and move up in the draft )6/27 ?

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    Also we are picking #23 a lot of guys who want to go in the teens are not gonna work out for teams in the 20s. I never understood always picking a guy you work out. I always liked teams who smoke screen their guy. I would change it up every year. Some years I would work the guy out while others I would not. I think the FO knows these guys a lot by now. I read Ryan Carr had went down to see Tony Mitchell in NT 3 times this year, I mean how much can a workout tell you that you don't know? I don't think very much I would never pick a guy on a workout.

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    Just seems to be a bunch of 2nd Round scrubs and UFDA's this year
    Our first workout was all guys projected first round

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    Just seems to be a bunch of 2nd Round scrubs and UFDA's this year
    The 2nd rd is where all the value is in this draft IMO. Expect a lot of trades in the 2nd plenty of future rotation guys in this years 2nd rd IMO

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    The Pacers have a lot of different options in this draft. There's no reason to get too obsessed over who is being worked out and who isn't right now.

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    The 2nd rd is where all the value is in this draft IMO. Expect a lot of trades in the 2nd plenty of future rotation guys in this years 2nd rd IMO
    I think you could see a lot of movement 20-30 as well, this strikes me as the type of draft where people will fall in love with a certain player and try to target them.

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    nbadraft.net updated mock:

    1 Cleveland Alex Len 7-1 255 C Maryland So.
    2 *Orlando Ben McLemore 6-5 190 SG Kansas Fr.
    3 Washington Nerlens Noel 6-11 206 PF/C Kentucky Fr.
    4 Charlotte Anthony Bennett 6-7 240 SF/PF UNLV Fr.
    5 Phoenix Otto Porter 6-9 200 SF Georgetown So.
    6 *New Orleans Trey Burke 6-1 190 PG Michigan So.
    7 *Sacramento Victor Oladipo 6-4 213 SG/SF Indiana Jr.
    8 Detroit Cody Zeller 7-0 230 PF/C Indiana So.
    9 Minnesota Kentavious Caldw... 6-6 205 SG Georgia So.
    10 *Portland Steven Adams 7-0 255 C Pittsburgh Fr.
    11 *Philadelphia Lucas Nogueira 7-0 220 PF/C Brazil Intl.
    12 *Oklahoma Cty CJ McCollum 6-3 197 PG/SG Lehigh Sr.
    13 *Dallas Michael Carter-W... 6-6 185 PG Syracuse So.
    14 Utah Shane Larkin 5-11 171 PG Miami So.
    15 Milwaukee Shabazz Muhammad 6-6 225 SF UCLA Fr.
    16 Boston Dennis Schroeder 6-2 168 PG Germany Intl.
    17 Atlanta Kelly Olynyk 7-0 234 C Gonzaga Jr.
    18 *Atlanta Sergey Karasev 6-7 197 SG/SF Russia Intl.
    19 *Cleveland Mason Plumlee 6-11 238 PF Duke Sr.
    20 Chicago Gorgui Dieng 6-11 230 C Louisville Jr.
    21 *Utah Giannis Adetokoubo 6-9 205 SF Greece Intl.
    22 Brooklyn Tony Mitchell 6-9 236 SF/PF North Texas So.
    23 Indiana Rudy Gobert 7-2 238 C France Intl.
    24 New York Tony Snell 6-7 198 SG/SF New Mexico Jr.
    25 LA Clippers Allen Crabbe 6-6 197 SG California Jr.
    26 *Minnesota Tim Hardaway Jr 6-6 200 SG Michigan Jr.
    27 Denver Glen Rice Jr. 6-6 211 SG USA Jr.
    28 San Antonio Nate Wolters 6-5 196 PG South Dakota ... Sr.
    29 Oklahoma Cty Reggie Bullock 6-7 200 SG/SF North Carolina Jr.
    30 *Phoenix Jamaal Franklin 6-5 191 SG/SF San Diego St. Jr.


    http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft


    # Team Player H W P School C
    31 *Cleveland Isaiah Canaan 6-0 190 PG Murray St. Sr.
    32 *Oklahoma Cty Livio Jean-Charles 6-9 217 SF/PF France Intl.
    33 Cleveland Ricardo Ledo 6-6 197 SG Providence Fr.
    34 *Houston Erick Green 6-3 180 PG/SG Virginia Tech Sr.
    35 *Philadelphia James Ennis 6-7 200 SG/SF Long Beach St... Sr.
    36 Sacramento Lorenzo Brown 6-5 189 PG/SG NC State Jr.
    37 Detroit DeShaun Thomas 6-6 220 SF/PF Ohio State Jr.
    38 Washington James Southerland 6-8 221 SF/PF Syracuse Sr.
    39 *Portland CJ Leslie 6-9 209 SF/PF NC State Jr.
    40 Portland Jeff Withey 7-0 222 C Kansas Sr.
    41 *Memphis Trevor Mbakwe 6-8 236 PF/C Minnesota Sr.
    42 Philadelphia Mike Muscala 6-11 230 PF/C Bucknell Sr.
    43 Milwaukee Carrick Felix 6-6 203 SG/SF Arizona St. Sr.
    44 Dallas Kenny Kadji 6-10 242 PF/C Miami Sr.
    45 *Portland Robert Covington 6-7 209 SF Tennessee State Sr.
    46 Utah Pierre Jackson 5-10 176 PG Baylor Sr.
    47 Atlanta Myck Kabongo 6-2 180 PG Texas So.
    48 LA Lakers Ray McCallum 6-1 190 PG Detroit Jr.
    49 Chicago Bojan Dubljevic 6-9 235 PF/C Montenegro Intl.
    50 *Atlanta Dewayne Dedmon 6-11 240 C USC Jr.
    51 *Orlando Archie Goodwin 6-5 189 SG Kentucky Fr.
    52 *Minnesota Peyton Siva 6-1 181 PG Louisville Sr.
    53 Indiana Colton Iverson 7-0 263 PF/C Colorado St. Sr.
    54 *Washington Ryan Kelly 6-11 230 PF Duke Sr.
    55 Memphis Grant Jerrett 6-10 232 PF Arizona Fr.
    56 *Detroit Erik Murphy 6-10 240 PF Florida Sr.
    57 *Phoenix Rodney Williams 6-7 200 SF Minnesota Sr.
    58 San Antonio Nemanja Nedovic 6-3 190 PG/SG Serbia Intl.
    59 *Minnesota Oleksandr Lypovyy 6-8 200 SF Ukraine Intl.
    60 *Memphis Adonis Thomas 6-6 232 SF Memphis So.
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    I really would like to see Herb buy another 2nd rd pick. My choice would be Cleveland's 2nd pick of their 2 rd rd picks which is #33. At #33 the Pacers should pick up a nice player.
    If the Pacers don't, I can see them using their #53 pick on drafting a SF, especially if they don't draft Reggie Bullock. Solomon Hill has been in for a workout, so he might be the player they have in mind at #53.

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    Thanks Slick for posting the mock draft. Very different than what Draftexpress last mock of 6/11. I'm real interested in seeing their new mock. I keep checking since it's been a week now.

    When Ford publishes his next mock I will be interested in seeing it too, and comparing it with the others. This is when I get real interested in scouting players, and start picking the Pacers I like.

    In nbadraft mock, Solomon Hill isn't even on it, and players in the latter part of the 2nd I've not seen before. Not to mention the moving of numerous players up and down the board. I'll have some studying to do now.

    Again, thanks for posting it................. Justin

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    nbadraft.net updated mock:

    23 Indiana Rudy Gobert 7-2 238 C France Intl.
    I would be cool with this.

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    Thanks Slick for posting the mock draft. Very different than what Draftexpress last mock of 6/11. I'm real interested in seeing their new mock. I keep checking since it's been a week now.

    When Ford publishes his next mock I will be interested in seeing it too, and comparing it with the others. This is when I get real interested in scouting players, and start picking the Pacers I like.

    In nbadraft mock, Solomon Hill isn't even on it, and players in the latter part of the 2nd I've not seen before. Not to mention the moving of numerous players up and down the board. I'll have some studying to do now.

    Again, thanks for posting it................. Justin

    Yeah nbadraft.net mock seems really odd.

    I remember reading an article (IndyCornrows) that Gobert's agent said the Pacers have shown no interest in him, and at this time have no plans for a workout.
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    OKC would make out like bandits if they got CJ, Bullock and Livio Jean-Charles.
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    I would be cool with this.
    Gobert's listed comparison as a player is Shawn Bradley, so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Tyme View Post
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    Thanks Slick for posting the mock draft. Very different than what Draftexpress last mock of 6/11. I'm real interested in seeing their new mock. I keep checking since it's been a week now.

    When Ford publishes his next mock I will be interested in seeing it too, and comparing it with the others. This is when I get real interested in scouting players, and start picking the Pacers I like.

    In nbadraft mock, Solomon Hill isn't even on it, and players in the latter part of the 2nd I've not seen before. Not to mention the moving of numerous players up and down the board. I'll have some studying to do now.

    Again, thanks for posting it................. Justin
    I believe Ford's new mock comes out today.

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    Chad Ford Mock 5.0


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    1. Nerlens Noel Cleveland Cavaliers
    COLLEGE: Kentucky AGE: 18 HT: 7-0 WT: 206 POS: C

    Analysis: The Cavs have been talking to teams for weeks about a trade, but they are finding a limited market and at this point are likely to keep the pick.

    Sources in Cleveland strongly suggest that the Cavs have yet to make their decision. Anthony Bennett, Ben McLemore, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, Alex Len and Noel all have visits and/or workouts scheduled in Cleveland this week. Noel is scheduled to visit the team Thursday and has a chance to seal the deal as the No. 1 pick if he performs well.

    Noel remains on top because he fits the profile of a player the Cavs prefer to draft -- the player with the most long-term upside. That's why they picked Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters at No. 4 the past couple of years and why Noel remains the favorite. Sources say Noel's strongest competition right now is Len, whom some in the organization favor because he, too, has size and defensive ability, but he's less raw and should be cleared to play much sooner than Noel.

    2. Victor Oladipo Orlando Magic
    COLLEGE: Indiana AGE: 20 HT: 6-4 WT: 213 POS: SG

    Analysis: The Magic are in the hunt for Eric Bledsoe. If they can address their point guard issue via trade, they're free to take the best player available at this spot. Indiana's Victor Oladipo and KU's Ben McLemore are widely seen as the two best fits in Orlando. While McLemore might have more pure upside, I continue to hear that Oladipo has the upper hand. McLemore was in Orlando last week, but according to multiple accounts, his workout wasn't terrific. Noel is a strong possibility, too, if he doesn't go No. 1 to the Cavs.

    3. Otto Porter Washington Wizards
    COLLEGE: Georgetown AGE: 20 HT: 6-9 WT: 198 POS: SF
    Analysis: The Wizards continue to be in a strong position at No. 3. The two players they really like -- Porter and UNLV's Anthony Bennett -- are both on the board here. Both are getting looks from the Cavs, but neither is the favorite at this point. There continues to be a pretty strong debate on this one inside the front office, and it might come down to risk aversion for the Wizards. Do they go with more of a sure thing (Porter) or gamble on the guy with more upside (Bennett)?

    4. Anthony Bennett Charlotte Bobcats
    COLLEGE: UNLV AGE: 20 HT: 6-8 WT: 240 POS: PF

    Analysis: This one sounds like it's coming down to a showdown between Bennett and Len. Either player would give Charlotte's front line a much-needed scoring boost. The Bobcats have Bismack Biyombo as a defensive presence but not a lot else. Also, don't totally write off Cody Zeller here. I hear he's a dark horse.

    5. Ben McLemore Phoenix Suns
    COLLEGE: Kansas AGE: 20 HT: 6-5 WT: 189 POS: SG

    Analysis: McLemore remains in the top 5, but I'm starting to have my doubts. I love the talent. But his lack of preparation for the draft is hurting him. Multiple sources told me that his workout in Phoenix was not impressive. McLemore, according to sources, wasn't in shape and struggled to keep up in the workout. I heard similar things in Orlando. McLemore is in a tug-of-war right now between advisor Rodney Blackstock and his agency Rivals. It's kept McLemore out of the gym and, for the most part, out of workouts. How much will all of this affect the draft stock? I'm told teams are worried. But how worried? Enough for one of the most talented players in the draft to slide further? Stay tuned. If the Suns move on past McLemore, both C.J. McCollum and Michael Carter-Williams are possibilities here.

    6. Alex Len New Orleans Pelicans
    COLLEGE: Maryland AGE: 19 HT: 7-1 WT: 225 POS: C

    Analysis: Len could go as high as No. 1 to the Cavs or No. 4 to the Bobcats, but I doubt he gets past the Pelicans at No. 6. Pairing him on the floor with Anthony Davis makes for a terrific front line. Small forward and point guard are the other two directions in which the Pelicans could go.

    They love Porter, but its doubtful he'll still be there at No. 6 and after Dario Saric withdrew from the draft on Monday, there weren't any other small forwards to be really excited about. They like Trey Burke and Carter-Williams, but sources continue to say that they think Austin Rivers can still make the transition to point guard.

    7. Michael Carter-Williams Sacramento Kings
    COLLEGE: Syracuse AGE: 21 HT: 6-6 WT: 184 POS: PG

    Analysis: The good news: the Kings finally have a general manager in Pete D'Alessandro. The bad news: he started on Monday, which is after the Kings had completed workouts with most of the prospects in their range. So, either the Kings drag players back to Sacramento or new head coach Mike Malone and owner Vivek Ranadive will be heavily influencing the call.

    From what I can gather, UCLA forward Shabazz Muhammad had the best workout, though the Kings weren't particularly high on him prior to that. The team loved Carter-Williams before he came in, but weren't impressed with his workout. Sounds like Trey Burke isn't particularly high on their list, either. Ditto for C.J. McCollum.

    I'm not sure what to make of all that, but here's the best I can do: One of the biggest reasons the Kings hired D'Alessandro was because of his analytics work. Muhammad looks horrible in virtually every analytics model I've seen. Carter-Williams looks good in almost of all of them.

    8. Trey Burke Detroit Pistons
    COLLEGE: Michigan AGE: 20 HT: 6-1 WT: 187 POS: PG

    Analysis: The Pistons are hoping, for a third year in a row, that one of the top seven players on the board slides to them on draft night. However, it the draft holds true to form, look for them to try to address their backcourt at No. 8. The team thinks Brandon Knight is more suited to play the two and would like to bring in a "pure" point guard to run the team. While Burke is a little undersized, he's highly skilled as both a shooter and a penetrator and has great leadership capabilities. McCollum and Zeller also are possibilities here, especially if both Burke and Carter-Williams are off the board.

    9. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Minnesota Timberwolves
    COLLEGE: Georgia AGE: 20 HT: 6-6 WT: 204 POS: SG

    Analysis: It sounds like the Timberwolves have narrowed things down to Caldwell-Pope and Muhammad here. While Muhammad is more of a natural scorer, it's hard to believe the Wolves will pass on Caldwell-Pope's shooting abilities. The team really needs shooters and Caldwell-Pope has a chance to be one of the two or three best shooters in the draft.

    10. C.J. McCollum Portland Trail Blazers
    COLLEGE: Lehigh AGE: 21 HT: 6-3 WT: 197 POS: PG

    Analysis: The Blazers also are in need of a shooter and would have strong interest in Caldwell-Pope if he doesn't go at No. 9. McCollum is another good option. While he's a bit undersized to play the two (Damian Lillard has the point guard spot on lockdown) his shooting and driving ability should complement Lillard nicely. The Blazers also are looking at bigs, and Pittsburgh's Steven Adams looks like a potential fit here as well.

    11. Cody Zeller Philadelphia 76ers
    COLLEGE: Indiana AGE: 20 HT: 7-0 WT: 230 POS: C

    Analysis: The 76ers are looking for size. With Andrew Bynum a free agent, Spencer Hawes and Arnett Moultrie are the closest things they have to bigs. Zeller is more of a four than a five, but his athletic ability, combined with his shooting stroke, should allow them to stretch the floor. Adams, Duke's Mason Plumlee and Brazil's Lucas Nogueira are also possibilities in Philly.

    12. Steven Adams Oklahoma City Thunder via Toronto Raptors
    COLLEGE: Pittsburgh AGE: 19 HT: 7-0 WT: 255 POS: C

    Analysis: The Thunder are in win-now mode, but it's unlikely whoever they draft here will be of much help next season. The Thunder have swung and missed a few times with big guys in the draft (Cole Aldrich and Byron Mullens) but could do it again for Adams. While he's miles away from contributing offensively, defensively he already has the body and instincts to be a good rebounder and shot blocker. With time much more might come. Russia's Sergey Karasev also is a strong possibility here.

    13. Sergey Karasev Dallas Mavericks
    COUNTRY: Russia AGE: 19 HT: 6-7 WT: 197 POS: SF

    Analysis: The Mavericks continue to lean heavily toward trading the pick (if they haven't already). Multiple sources say it's unlikely the Mavs will be selecting for themselves when they make this pick on draft night. However, if they do keep the pick, selecting an international player that the Mavs can stash over in Europe offers the cap flexibility Dallas is seeking. With their favorite, Dario Saric, out, a player like Karasev seems like a great fit. His ability to shoot the basketball and his experience playing at a high level in Russia put him ahead of the curve. He'd be a great fit in Dallas whenever he comes over (either this season or next) and at this point his draft stock looks high enough to justify the pick.

    14. Lucas Noguiera Utah Jazz
    COUNTRY: Brazil AGE: 20 HT: 6-11 WT: 218 POS: C

    Analysis: Yes, the Jazz are in the hunt for a point guard. But from what I can gather (and the Jazz are notoriously tight lipped) the team isn't in love with any of the point guards who would be left on the board (Shane Larkin and Dennis Schroeder are the two most likely here). They also need bigs (both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap are free agents this summer) and it looks like they're open to using the draft to help address that need as well. The Jazz have been high on Nogueira for a while, but his performance at the Eurocamp might have sealed the deal for this lithe, long, athletic shot blocker. I don't think he'll be around when they draft again at 21.

    15. Shane Larkin Milwaukee Bucks
    COLLEGE: Miami AGE: 20 HT: 6-0 WT: 171 POS: PG

    Analysis: With their starting backcourt of Brandon Jennings and Monta Ellis both heading into free agency, the Bucks likely are to focus on point guard. Both Larkin and Schroeder are the two most interesting candidates. Schroeder has more upside, but after dealing with Jennings for the past few years, they might opt for a more traditional guard like Larkin. Murray State's Isaiah Canaan also has a shot here. His impressive workout turned heads in Milwaukee.

    16. Shabazz Muhammad Boston Celtics
    COLLEGE: UCLA AGE: 20 HT: 6-6 WT: 222 POS: SF

    Analysis: Muhammad's stock is all over the place. But then again, so are the Celtics. He could go as high as No. 7 to the Kings or No. 9 to the Wolves or even No. 12 to the Thunder or No. 14 to the Jazz. But if he does slide this far, it's hard to see Danny Ainge passing on him. There's just too much talent there, and what the Celtics are going to need -- if they really are going into full rebuild mode -- is more talent.

    17. Mason Plumlee Atlanta Hawks
    COLLEGE: Duke AGE: 23 HT: 6-10 WT: 238 POS: PF

    Analysis: The Hawks could use just about everything. Plumlee isn't a particularly sexy prospect, but he runs the floor very well and is one of the most athletic bigs in the draft. If he rebounds and uses his strength and mobility, he could be a valuable rotation player for the Hawks. Gonzaga's Kelly Olynyk, San Diego State's Jamaal Franklin and Michigan's Tim Hardaway Jr. also are possibilities.

    18. Giannis Antetokounmpo Atlanta Hawks via Houston Rockets
    COUNTRY: Greece AGE: 18 HT: 6-9 WT: 215 POS: SF

    Analysis: Antetoukounpo turned a lot of heads last week in Italy playing for the Greek Under-20 team. While he still projects as the rawest prospect in the draft, teams were impressed with how he handled himself against stronger competition. The word out of Italy was that there was no way he was getting past the Hawks. He might go higher (the Thunder, Mavericks and Jazz all have interest) but it now looks like he's secured a top-20 selection.

    19. Reggie Bullock Cleveland Cavaliers via Los Angeles Lakers
    COLLEGE: North Carolina AGE: 22 HT: 6-7 WT: 200 POS: SF

    Analysis: If the Cavs grab Noel at No. 1, look for them to add a small forward or shooter with the second first-round pick. They would love to get their hands on Karasev, but I'm told they believe Bullock wouldn't be a bad consolation prize. Bullock shot 44 percent from 3-point range this year and has the size to play both wing positions.

    20. Jamaal Franklin Chicago Bulls
    COLLEGE: San Diego St. AGE: 21 HT: 6-5 WT: 191 POS: SG

    Analysis: He's had just one workout with the Knicks, though that's about to change. The Bulls really need a shooter, and that isn't exactly Franklin's forté. However, his jumper has improved considerably. What head coach Tom Thibodeau will love immediately is Franklin's defensive presence on the floor. This is one of the toughest players in the draft and a kid who should contribute immediately -- a smaller version of Kawhi Leonard. Hardaway Jr. also is a strong possibility here.

    21. Dennis Schroeder Utah Jazz
    COUNTRY: Germany AGE: 19 HT: 6-2 WT: 165 POS: PG

    Analysis: The Jazz do need a point guard and after a series of shaky workouts, I think there's a good chance Schroeder will be here when they draft at 21. The bigger question? Is Schroeder the point guard the Jazz would draft? The team also like's Murray State's Isaiah Canaan -- a lot. Do the Jazz go for upside or a proven guard with a little lower ceiling? Obviously, if the Jazz pass on Nogueira earlier, he'd be in play here.

    22. Tony Snell Brooklyn Nets
    COLLEGE: New Mexico AGE: 21 HT: 6-7 WT: 198 POS: SG

    Analysis: Snell quietly is flying up the draft boards after a series of terrific workouts. He's in play now with Chicago, Utah, Brooklyn and Indiana. The appeal? He's a super athletic wing with NBA length and defensive abilities. He was very inconsistent at New Mexico, but I'm told numerous NBA teams love the talent. Louisville's Gorgui Dieng and Hardaway Jr. also are in play here.

    23. Kelly Olynyk Indiana Pacers
    COLLEGE: Gonzaga AGE: 22 HT: 7-0 WT: 234 POS: PF

    Analysis: The Pacers are hoping someone in the top 15 or 20 on our Big Board slides to them. In this scenario, their wish is granted. Olynyk is getting looks as high as the 76ers at No. 11, the Jazz at No. 14, the Celtics at No. 16. But if he slides past those teams, he'd be welcomed with open arms in Indy. The team needs depth everywhere, and Olynyk's ability to play a stretch four would offer another weapon off the bench. Snell, Canaan and Virginia Tech's Erick Green also are in the mix here.


    24. Tony Mitchell New York Knicks
    SCHOOL: North Texas AGE: 21 HT: 6-8 WT: 220 POS: SF

    Analysis: I continue to hear the Knicks have a strong affinity for Mitchell. He has all the physical tools to succeed in the NBA -- strength, length, elite athletic ability. And the Knicks really need help on the front line. I also hear South Dakota State's Nate Wolters is a sleeper here.

    25. Ricky Ledo Los Angeles Clippers
    COLLEGE: Providence AGE: 23 HT: 6-6 WT: 197 POS: SG

    Analysis: Ledo continues to draw praise from every team for whom he works out. I know the Celtics are a team that likes him a lot. If the Clippers and Celtics end up doing the Doc Rivers-Kevin Garnett trade, it's likely Boston will end up with this pick. Look for Ainge to swing for the fences with it.

    26. Rudy Gobert Minnesota Timberwolves via Memphis Grizzlies
    COUNTRY: France AGE: 20 HT: 7-2 WT: 238 POS: PF

    Analysis: The Timberwolves will need depth in the middle, and while Gobert has been sliding steadily on draft boards the past few weeks, at this point in the draft he is a steal. Hardaway Jr. and Cal's Allen Crabbe also are possibilities here.

    27. Tim Hardaway Jr. Denver Nuggets
    COLLEGE: Michigan AGE: 21 HT: 6-6 WT: 199 POS: SG

    Analysis: The Nuggets are in danger of losing Andre Iguodala this summer after he opted to become a free agent. While Hardaway is a far cry from Iguodala, he's one of the more NBA-ready players in the draft and could step in immediately and along with Evan Fournier, help with some of the minutes used by "Iggy."

    28. Gorgui Dieng San Antonio Spurs
    COLLEGE: Louisville AGE: 23 HT: 6-11 WT: 230POS: C

    Analysis: Injury concerns for Dieng (ankle and a knee) have hurt his stock a bit, and he's slowly sliding into the 20s. Teams like him, but given his age, injuries matter. That shouldn't stop the Spurs from taking him here. They have big needs on the front line and Dieng is one of the more NBA-ready big men in the draft.

    29. Alex Abrines Oklahoma City Thunder
    COUNTRY: Spain AGE: 20 HT: 6-5 WT: 195 POS: SG

    Analysis: Again, the Thunder have a ton of flexibility right now, and with two first-round picks they don't need a player to come over immediately. Abrines is an interesting player. He's playing limited minutes for one of the top teams in Europe and has significant upside. The team can afford to be patient and stash him in Europe for a year or two until he's ready to come in and contribute.

    30. Glen Rice Jr. Phoenix Suns
    COLLEGE: Georgia Tech AGE: 22 HT: 6-6 WT: 211 POS: SG

    Analysis: If the Suns get their 2-guard with their first pick, don't be surprised if Phoenix tries to add another wing who can shoot the ball with its second first-rounder. Rice dominated the D-League last season and probably is big enough to spend time at the 3. He's also one of the two or three most NBA-ready prospects in the draft.
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    Ford's mock has Dieng there for us at #23 but not Bullock.

    I'm not sold at all on the defensive ability of Olynyk at the 4.
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    Ford's mock has Dieng there for us at #23 but not Bullock.

    I'm not sold at all on the defensive ability of Olynyk at the 4.
    If Shroeder is there at 21, I would seriously hope the Pacers trade up for him, or even close to 20.
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    Dieng going to the Spurs. Spurs get so damn lucky with their late picks.
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    high scoring combo guard Erick Green seems to be always mocked in the early/mid 2nd.

    I'd love if if we could move up from 53 to the mid-30's for him.
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