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    How Russ got the refs to give him 10 free throws a game the first 5 games of the tourney I will not understand, but it certainly unnaturally inflated his draft stock.

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    Amazing what point guards have become anymore and that guys like Russ Smith and Trey Burke can be thought so highly of. No thanks to any "point guard" who is going to dribble for 15secs of the shot clock and then either take on 3guys at the hole, or hoist up a 3 from 5ft behind the arc. Ball dominant point guards irritate me to no end.

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    http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

    Not that this site is the end all be all, but in the past it has been relatively accurate. FWIW they do not have Russ Smith going in the draft period.

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    Granted he is an underclassmen, but most are factored in here if they are good enough.

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    Russ Smith's basketball IQ is just as bad as Gerald Green's. No way.

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    Amazing what point guards have become anymore and that guys like Russ Smith and Trey Burke can be thought so highly of. No thanks to any "point guard" who is going to dribble for 15secs of the shot clock and then either take on 3guys at the hole, or hoist up a 3 from 5ft behind the arc. Ball dominant point guards irritate me to no end.
    As much as I agree with this sentiment, that's 90% of the PG position nowadays. The game has changed, and unless you have a ball dominant wing, chances are you're gonna have this type of PG starting for you (obviously with a few exceptions)

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    Dieng is the player I have wanted the Pacers to target for a while now. He is a long defensive force, with enough touch to garner some offensive prowess. He is a better jump shooter than I realized even, which makes me that much more high on him. I doubt he gets to us now unfortunately.

    Russ Smith I want no part of.

    Trey Burke I would love to get, but I'm partial. Here's the thing with Burke. Some NBA team is now going to draft him in the top ten with huge expectations for him to be some game changer for the franchise. That is terrible for him. He is a modest guy who works hard and is very mature. He would fit in great with a more mature team where he can fit in a role and work on his game over a couple of years. He's played himself onto a worse team that will likely not have many veterans and he will be asked to be more than what he is. I love the kid in the second half of the draft, hate seeing him in the top half.

    Peyton Siva is a kid I would take a chance on in the late second round, sure. But he's still got too many holes in his game as a prospect to be anything other than a late flyer.
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    After last night I'd love to see Billy Keller ... er ... Spike Albrecht
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...rst-mock-draft

    Ford's first mock draft.
    Has the Kings taking Shabazz which would create the biggest dumpster fire of a roster anyone has ever seen.

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...rst-mock-draft

    Ford's first mock draft.
    Has the Kings taking Shabazz which would create the biggest dumpster fire of a roster anyone has ever seen.
    Any way you can post the whole list? No longer an insider here.

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    Ford's first mock draft.
    Has the Kings taking Shabazz which would create the biggest dumpster fire of a roster anyone has ever seen.
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    Dieng is the player I have wanted the Pacers to target for a while now. He is a long defensive force, with enough touch to garner some offensive prowess. He is a better jump shooter than I realized even, which makes me that much more high on him. I doubt he gets to us now unfortunately.

    Russ Smith I want no part of.

    Trey Burke I would love to get, but I'm partial. Here's the thing with Burke. Some NBA team is now going to draft him in the top ten with huge expectations for him to be some game changer for the franchise. That is terrible for him. He is a modest guy who works hard and is very mature. He would fit in great with a more mature team where he can fit in a role and work on his game over a couple of years. He's played himself onto a worse team that will likely not have many veterans and he will be asked to be more than what he is. I love the kid in the second half of the draft, hate seeing him in the top half.

    Peyton Siva is a kid I would take a chance on in the late second round, sure. But he's still got too many holes in his game as a prospect to be anything other than a late flyer.
    I wonder if Dieng has better hands than our current backup center? I think he would be a reasonable pick at 23. Adams would be ok. Wolters would be reasonable also. If trading up I would go after Oladipo and MKG.
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    I wonder if Dieng has better hands than our current backup center? I think he would be a reasonable pick at 23. Adams would be ok. Wolters would be reasonable also. If trading up I would go after Oladipo and MKG.
    You wonder if he has better hands than Ian? Edward scissorhands has better hands than Ian.

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    It's gonna be great to see how many guys get overvalued and end up being busts.

    Trey Burke is a perfect example. Ball dominant guard that is a so-so decision maker, terrible off the ball, a feast or famine 3 point shooter, and so-so speed. He's a great college player, but I don't see how his particular style/needs will fit with an NBA team. Just don't see it at all. He feasts on inferior teams, then typically struggles against good teams (The last 10 minutes of the Kansas game and last nights game are 2 huge exceptions).


    Mclemore, from Kansas, is another guy that'll likely go too early. He isn't very aggressive, disappears for long stretches, is a great shooter, but is otherwise reasonably limited. Yet, he'll go in the top 10 along with Burke.

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    It's gonna be great to see how many guys get overvalued and end up being busts.

    Trey Burke is a perfect example. Ball dominant guard that is a so-so decision maker, terrible off the ball, a feast or famine 3 point shooter, and so-so speed. He's a great college player, but I don't see how his particular style/needs will fit with an NBA team. Just don't see it at all. He feasts on inferior teams, then typically struggles against good teams (The last 10 minutes of the Kansas game and last nights game are 2 huge exceptions).


    Mclemore, from Kansas, is another guy that'll likely go too early. He isn't very aggressive, disappears for long stretches, is a great shooter, but is otherwise reasonably limited. Yet, he'll go in the top 10 along with Burke.
    Look who is in the draft. I mean how many guys would you draft ahead of Burke and McLemore?

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    Look who is in the draft. I mean how many guys would you draft ahead of Burke and McLemore?
    That's a great point. This draft blows.

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    Said this before but, I think Kentavious Caldwell-Pope would be a good fit. A big athletic SG with deep range who can hold his own on D. Isn't going to take over a game but, around this group he'll get alot of open looks. Really what we've been missing from the second group.
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    You wonder if he has better hands than Ian? Edward scissorhands has better hands than Ian.
    Watch Hanner Perea of IU sometime. No joke, he makes Ian seem sure-handed.

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    Said this before but, I think Kentavious Caldwell-Pope would be a good fit. A big athletic SG with deep range who can hold his own on D. Isn't going to take over a game but, around this group he'll get alot of open looks. Really what we've been missing from the second group.

    Why do the Pacers need another young SG? They already have Lance and Juice, not to mention Hill and PG can play the SG as well. Other than Green, who you can't count on, wouldn't drafting a SF be more important than drafting a SG? Or another BIG with possibly Hans and Pendy not being re-signed?

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    That's a great point. This draft blows.
    This is why I've said this is a good year to trade out if at all possible.

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    This is why I've said this is a good year to trade out if at all possible.
    It's a terrible draft if you are picking in the top ten, sure. But what would we get for dealing a late first round pick in a weak draft? Take a player and keep him for a few years on a rookie contract.

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    I think Burke will be a pretty good pro. Maybe not elite, but he'll have a long career along the lines of at least a Jarret Jack type. He's definitely worthy of a top 10 pick, especially in this weak draft.

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    I wonder if Dieng has better hands than our current backup center? I think he would be a reasonable pick at 23. Adams would be ok. Wolters would be reasonable also. If trading up I would go after Oladipo and MKG.
    Wolters in the 1st rd would be a terrible pick IMO. With Adams I would say its terrible because he cant play but I could at least see the POV the FO is taking. Wolters at #23 would make me puke.


    On who is better than Burke in the class? IMO plenty of guys. He isnt even the best pg in the class IMO. Smart is head and shoulders a better pro prospect and it isnt that close IMO. Burke and MCW are the two that should be grouped together in that next tier IMO.

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    Smart? You mean the guy that can't shoot or pass? Sure.

    I love how the guy with the top A/TO rate in the country makes bad decisions....
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    It's a terrible draft if you are picking in the top ten, sure. But what would we get for dealing a late first round pick in a weak draft? Take a player and keep him for a few years on a rookie contract.

    Why do people, not directing this at you in particulaar, ask what can you get? My answer is, if the #23 pick is packaged with a player or 2 then something of possible greater value for the future. If your goal is another Plumlee at #23 to fill out a roster on a cheap rookie contract by all means keep the #23 pick. If your goal is to not improve the roster, then by all means keep the #23 pick.

    My good gracious, lets not try to improve by trading a #23 pick in a very weak draft for a player who can help the Pacers going forward. Lets just keep the status quo as it is and be losing to the freaking Cavs by 20! Why try to improve the roster when you can get a super dooper player at #23 in a weak draft who likely won't contribute for a # of years?

    Again, I'm not singling you out I just feel the Pacers need an up[grade and this is a way of doing it. Plus I'm flipp'n upset being beaten by the Cavs. grrr

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