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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Yes, a couple.

    The one that intrigues me the most is that if it ends up being the same amount but not necessarily the same deal, that puts us in a much better situation for now and the years to come. It allows us to structure the contract with Roy so that we can pay him in a way that will allow us to target other FA's or sign back our guys in the future and not be locked up financially with a crazy contract.

    And it seems like if Roy wants this team to continue getting better then he would do it.
    Does this mean that the Pacers will not technically sign the contract offer that the Blazers sent him....but that he will sign a newly minted contract from the Pacers that gives him the same amount of $$$ ( if not more $$$ ) but is structured favorably over the course of 5 seasons?
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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Considering he just got a monumental pay raise for 12/6. He is already grossly overpaid. $14mill a year for a player who cannot take over a game on either end? Average offense and average defense gets you $14mill????? God bless the big fella!!!!
    Welcome to the Association, where a competent 7-footer can command $14 million a year....

    Seriously though, look at the emotion in this thread. Roy's value to the Pacers goes beyond his on-court performance. Worth what he's going to get paid? Time will tell, but the franchise's popularity in the community is greater now than it was two hours ago.

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    We don't know that yet.
    Roy's not stupid, nor is his agent.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Dude, get over it
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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Look... Wrong!!!! You idiots don't seem to understand, a handshake agreement means that it is NOT even humanly possible to change the contract... Doing so would cause the agent to be flogged and stoned... A handshake agreement is a contract that is blood bound by knack standards... / green...

    Ahhhhhhh.... just passed gas
    As long as any changes are good for Roy, there is no reason they couldn't add something or tweak something to benefit the team.

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    Good.

    This was a no brainer.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Does this mean that the Pacers will not technically sign the contract offer that the Blazers sent him....but that he will sign a newly minted contract from the Pacers that gives him the same amount of $$$ ( if not more $$$ ) but is structured favorably over the course of 5 seasons?
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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

    I am like a few others. I would have liked to have made Portland suffer a bit and let Roy sign while waiting to match. It would hurt them in getting Kaman, resigning Batum and then not getting Roy.

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    Hib-Hib PAYROY!!
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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

    Gotta love Roy - he just posted this:

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    Gotta love Roy - he just posted this:

    Roy Hibbert ‏@Hoya2aPacer
    Taking a look back thru my time line. A lot of people r getting blocked!
    Hope I'm not one. Didn't say anything but positive stuff, but I was probably annoying there for a bit lol

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Does this mean that the Pacers will not technically sign the contract offer that the Blazers sent him....but that he will sign a newly minted contract from the Pacers that gives him the same amount of $$$ ( if not more $$$ ) but is structured favorably over the course of 5 seasons?
    It is just all speculation on my part, but that could be an option that the Pacers and Roy's party use to continue to make the team better, I hope it is not the same lopsided contract that the Blazers offered.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    Good.

    I didn't want to change my avatar.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    Gotta love Roy - he just posted this:

    Roy Hibbert ‏@Hoya2aPacer
    Taking a look back thru my time line. A lot of people r getting Hib-Slapped!
    Fixed.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

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    As long as any changes are good for Roy, there is no reason they couldn't add something or tweak something to benefit the team.
    You are right spazz...

    This is what is about... Roy is a good guy who wants to get paid... As soon as Pacers agreed to Portland dollars.... He figured that maybe signing that deal was gonna hurt our chances at Free Agency signings... He wants to win and get paid. Not cashstrap us...

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

    Good news. Sure, he is getting overpaid, but unfortunately thats just the nature of things. Trying to fill his spot would have been incredibly difficult. Roy means a lot to this franchise both on and off the court. Can you imagine no more Area 55? No more Big Roy going straight up as someone drives the lane? Just wouldn't be right.

    I am curious to see how things go from here. I would imagine some other announcements are gonna happen soon, which is why they said they will match today. Its an odd day to "decide" to match (well not match but make the offer). They have either heard yes or no from guys they are looking to sign and are in the clear to be able to afford Hibbert's contract.

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    Great job by the FO. Roy is the type of person that you want on the team. He is big, he is a talent and still has potential to improve, and he is a person you can build around. I am a big believer in team chemistry and this team has the right type of chemistry. Do we have a Lebron on our team no. But we continue to improve each year. You never know when it is your time to make that run. So many things have to go right to help. I'm sure Rose getting hurt helped Miami get through. Don't know who would have won that series had the Bulls been fully healthy.

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    Welcome to the Association, where a competent 7-footer can command $14 million a year....

    Seriously though, look at the emotion in this thread. Roy's value to the Pacers goes beyond his on-court performance. Worth what he's going to get paid? Time will tell, but the franchise's popularity in the community is greater now than it was two hours ago.
    No doubt! Below average 7's just got $8mill. I dont see anyway that this team will seriously compete for a title paying $28mill to two decent players (Roy/DG). Teams are not winning with max contract Centers anymore. Dont see how they are going to win with a soft center being paid $14mill.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

    I am satisfied now, but I hope we sign sixth man. Oj might end up out of reach, so hopefully we at least go for C.Lee or someone else.

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    Trading a 1st rd pick for Marshon Brooks sounds great! Now that they have paid elite money to 2 mediocre players (Roy/DG), there probably is not enough money to go and get someone who can take over a game.
    Bittersweet about the signing. Glad to have Roy back but sad the Pacers will not contend for a title.
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    Does this mean that the Pacers will not technically sign the contract offer that the Blazers sent him....but that he will sign a newly minted contract from the Pacers that gives him the same amount of $$$ ( if not more $$$ ) but is structured favorably over the course of 5 seasons?
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    Yes
    anything is possible, but probably not.

    the tweets posted seemed to indicate roy will sign a contract exactly like the one portland offered. Roy evidently wants to get paid as much as he can, which is ok. The use of a 5th year at a lower rate just defeats the whole point of going to portland in the first place.

    The contact Roy signs is exactly the same as the portland contract. The time he signs it is different. That timing allows the pacers to make deals with only the cap hold on the books instead of the whole $13.6M.

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    anything is possible, but probably not.

    the tweets posted seemed to indicate roy will sign a contract exactly like the one portland offered. Roy evidently wants to get paid as much as he can, which is ok. The use of a 5th year at a lower rate just defeats the whole point of going to portland in the first place.

    The contact Roy signs is exactly the same as the portland contract. The time he signs it is different. That timing allows the pacers to make deals with only the cap hold on the books instead of the whole $13.6M.
    Maybe we'll put in a fifth year non-guaranteed to make up for the original low-ball offer? I don't know. Just sayin...

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    Default Re: Mike Wells: Pacers matching Roy's offer sheet!

    What if Pritchard suspected all along that the Blazers would offer Roy the max in order to screw with us so we low-balled him, let him get the offer from Portland, and then WA-POW! PRITCH SLAP!

    (Note: This post is a completely humorous fabrication on my part and by no means represents anything close to reality. Please do not run with this like it's got legs. That is all.)

    PRITCH SLAP!!!

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    What if Pritchard suspected all along that the Blazers would offer Roy the max in order to screw with us so we low-balled him, let him get the offer from Portland, and then WA-POW! PRITCH SLAP!

    (Note: This post is a completely humorous fabrication on my part and by no means represents anything close to reality. Please do not run with this like it's got legs. That is all.)

    PRITCH SLAP!!!
    I bet you are right on the fact that Pritchard didnt want to sign Roy outright. Now, instead of being on the hook for 5 years at real max money, He is on the hook for 4 years and less money per year. If Roy doesnt pan out, he can be let go and is less of a financial hit.

    4/58 >>>>>>>>> 5/76

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    This is great news, imo, even if Roy's overpaid. I'm very happy he'll be back with the Pacers. It sets a very good precedent that we'll reward players who work hard and contribute to the city.

    I'm very glad to be wrong on this one. I thought the writing was on the wall about our spending. It still may be to an extent, but I didn't think we'd keep Roy.

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