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    Good start by Drummond.

    PS: And as I was typing this he missed an open dunk

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    Daye has pretty good handles for his height.

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    Brandon Knight on the other hand seems to be way out of control.

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    Daye has pretty good handles for his height.
    Well, he certainly ain't a 4

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    True, he is way to slight.

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    I'm looking forward to seeing how Drummond handles real bigs. He has some nice tools and looks to be playing hard.

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    Say what you will about his offense, but drummonds defense is so much fun to watch. This is what I wanted to see from him this week. Completely shut down the paint.

    He's only 18. He will have extreme highs like today and lows like yesterday.

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    Reggie Jackson...want.
    Lance + Starting SG = Awesome

    Now really free Lance!

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    Reggie Jackson...want.
    I think Lance really took it to him yesterday, not thats the end all be all, but still.

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    i don't think OKC is going to move Jackson. I think they will send us Fish though.

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    i don't think OKC is going to move Jackson. I think they will send us Fish though.
    Don't forget about Maynor.

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    Whenever I watch Brandon Knight, his cealing screams back up pointguard on good team. LMAO at pistons fans arguing at the beggining of last season that he is gona be better then Kyrie Irving.

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    Really? Do us all a favor and bring up which posts we said that here...

    I love Brandon knight. He has been crap all week, but I'll put more stock into his all-rooke 1st team season than a few meaningless exhibition games. Thanks.
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    I didnt said you said that here so I m not gona search posts but I clearly remember there was lots of msgs about that on messege boards.
    And just because of that I thought, maybe on Kentucy he was used wrongly or I just watched his bad games, and I tried to watched Pistons to check him.
    He lacks ballhandling,playmaking,courtvision,decision making,left hand, consistant shot and he turns the ball lot. Ye he is young and gona improve but for me he just dont has it. Pistons should use Monroe passing ability more this season.

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    Yeah. Knight is terrible. He can't play the game of basketball. That's why he started 60 games last season and was an all rookie first teamer.

    If he could not do all of those things, he would not even have gotten a scholarship, let alone be an NBA player.
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    Say what you will about his offense, but drummonds defense is so much fun to watch. This is what I wanted to see from him this week. Completely shut down the paint.

    He's only 18. He will have extreme highs like today and lows like yesterday.
    When someone is as good of a defender as he is then he doesn't really need much offense.

    Drummond will need 3 things offensively:

    1) Finish strong at the rim. He shouldn't miss uncontested dunks. He will get open at the pro level as defenses focus on Monroe so he needs to be able to take care of those.

    2) Hit the occasional jumper. He doesn't need to become a mid range threat of course. He just needs to be able to hit the side / elbow jumper when the defenses focus on Monroe. Greg is a good passer and he'll be able to get the ball to him when he is double-teamed. All that he needs to do is keep the defenses honest.

    3) Hit his free throws. And that's his main problem and what he should aim to improve. Drummond will get fouled quite a lot in the pro level. He'll mainly play under the basket and he will either the dunk the ball or get fouled. 29% is not going to cut it. Make it 60 - 65% and he is golden.

    That's it. He doesn't need to develop a post-up game. Monroe is the go-to post-up guy and Drummond will mostly score off of him.

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    A few points I'd like discussed:

    1. Who has impressed you so far in the Summer League that should get a camp invite?

    I've liked Mavunga and been a fan of N'daiye since his Rutgers days.

    2. Lance's defense:

    Also think Lance needs to learn from Ben how to get around/through a screen. Stephenson is too easily picked and while has had great offensive games, what's the point if Lance's man gets wherever he wants/penetrates so well?

    3. Plumlee/Hibbert front court this season?

    Plumlee has impressed. His athleticism shows his ability to defend the PnR very well. Against OKC, a commentator (Bulls former player Gill?) said he could project a Plumlee/Hibbert front court this season. I wonder if his rebound numbers are low because switching on the PnR pulls him away from the basket? How would you feel about a Plumlee/Hibbert front court?

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    I do find it odd that Detroit brought Knight and Austin Daye to summer league, but whatever works for you I guess.

    I am glad to say Plumlee playing well, but don't foget, Tyler was a stud during summer league a few years ago. Look where that has gotten him.

    I still don't like the pick, but I am glad to see he is playing well, unlike some....(looks at Jeff Pendergraph)

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    Knight is only 20 years old and needs to play with his franchise center. If drummond wasn't here, I'd agree it would be pointless.

    Daye...whatever. I guess he's auditioning for other teams here more than his own.

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    Knight is only 20 years old and needs to play with his franchise center. If drummond wasn't here, I'd agree it would be pointless.

    Daye...whatever. I guess he's auditioning for other teams here more than his own.
    Dang, you are that low on Daye? Granted, I didn't watch Detroit a ton last year, but I seem to remember him playing really well a few times against Indiana.

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    We have Prince, Singler, Jerebko...Daye is as low as you can get on the SF depth chart. He's trade bait at best.

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    How can you dismiss the once-in-a-generation talent that is Javaris Crittenton?

    Didn't Travis Diener have a fabulous Summer League game once? Like 30 plus points? Or am I thinking of someone else?

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    I'm looking forward to watching the Drummond/Monroe frontcourt next season. I like what I see from Drummond, and Monroe is super overlooked.

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    I wonder if his rebound numbers are low because switching on the PnR pulls him away from the basket?
    He does switch on the PnR and sticks with the man he covers. That's quite true. He seems to have good lateral quickness. He is certainly better than West, Hibbert and Hans in that aspect although that does not say a lot.

    He does not have low rebound numbers per se. He had 10 in the first game and 8 in the third. He had a bad second game rebound-wise, though.

    His rebounding problems mostly stem from his inability to perform a second leap. He does not seem to attempt to jump for a board after a block attempt. His wingspan does not really help either as most second leapers are really long guys in reality (like Hibbert).

    He has to set some priorities, imo. He needs to know when to contest and when to jump. And he also needs to learn to jump a second time.

    As I've said before his rebounding is a bit weird. I'm not quite sure what to make of it. He has good potential as a rebounder but he also has some flaws. Luckily, they can be fixed.

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    With one game to go the Pacers have 2 top 10 scorers. Lance is 1st with 20 ppg. Miles is 10th at 14 ppg. (Looks like Miles is 3rd in scoring among rookies).

    Miles is a lot better offensive player than I expected. He's "miles" ahead of Jeff Foster in that regard. I've seen him score in a variety of ways and he's shot a high percentage (.526).

    If you're interested in seeing the stats, they're listed here: link

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