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    I mean yeah, I agree with most of that, it's just Hibbert is drastically better at being a basketball player.

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    Javale McGee (aka Pierre) is absolutely hilarious on Twitter though. I like him because he's funny and an okay center, but he is so damn stupid.

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    The worst player possible to replace Roy with is Javale...

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    Now wait, JaVale might help bring the fans back. He provides great entertainment. Indy will be buzzing with "I wonder what JaVale will do next game."

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    I'm a big McGee guy, he could be one of the top centers in the game if he quits being a knucklehead. People are sleeping on his potential, he has a very very very high ceiling.

    Also, the op tweet said Kaman AND McGee, does that mean both?
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    I'm a big McGee guy, he could be one of the top centers in the game if he quits being a knucklehead. People are sleeping on his potential, he has a very very very high ceiling.
    Yes he does, and there is almost no chance he ever reaches that ceiling because he is, in fact, a total idiot on the basketball court.

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    I'm a big McGee guy, he could be one of the top centers in the game if he quits being a knucklehead. People are sleeping on his potential, he has a very very very high ceiling.

    Also, the op tweet said Kaman AND McGee, does that mean both?
    Well, that IS the definition of and... :P

    I'm guessing it means they'll go after both and get whichever makes more sense.

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    He had a 21 points and 14 rebounds game against the Lakers during the playoffs. He had another 14 rebound game and a 15 rebound game in that 7 game series. In fact, I think he played a big role in extending the series to 7 games against the Lakers.
    Yep. He's much better than people are giving him credit for.

    http://bkref.com/tiny/wfMau

    If we wanna get technical, Javale scored more points per-minute than Roy, did it more efficiently (TS%: .539 vs. 552; eFG%: .497 vs. .556), pulled down more rebounds per-minute, and blocked more shots per-minute. He also had a terrific postseason showing again the Lakers.

    It's become trendy to belittle McGee, thus, most people do it, but no one in their right mind can deny that he's a very productive basketball player. Although he can't admit it, lest his hypocrisy be exposed, McGee provides exactly the type of production that Kstat is dreaming of Andre Drummond giving Detroit in the future -- efficient scoring, big time rebounding, and a bunch of blocked shots.

    I'd happily take him at $10M per-season. I'm sure Denver would match that, though.

    By the way, Denver had a superior winning percentage with McGee than with Nene.

    Denver, w/ Nene: 16-12 (.571)
    Denver, w/ McGee: 13-7 (.650)

    Although, to be fair, Washington had a far superior record with Nene. It looks like a win/win trade, although give me the 24-year-old over the 29-year-old going forward.

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    Plumlee>Mcgee....actually idk they both kind of suck

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    Wasn't JaVale the player who said previous to being traded to Denver he wanted a new contract at 14 mil? If so, I highly doubt he's changed his mind. You can bet your sweet bippie Denver isn't going to give JaVale a 14 mil contract. If he could be gotten for 8-9 mil, you'd have to consider him if the Pacers choose not to re-sign Hibbert. Take the 5-6 mil and use it towards picking up another FA.

    Since people are throwing out controversial names, you can probably pick up Blatche from the Wiz at 8 mil. He can play both the 4 & 5.

    I want Hibbert back, but not at some ridiculous salary. There are other options out there, just not Hibbertesque. The front office might decide not to match and just get a plug the dam type player for this year to see how things sake out.

    Another name to consifer is Robin Lopez who is a RFA... offer him 6-7 mil. Maybe he bites and the Suns don't match since they have Gortat. Please no Herb won't go after RFA spiel. I believe it's been determined he'd be willing, just won't get in a bidding war for a RFA like Gordon.

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    People are seeing a different player than I am, he's looked very very good, when I've seen him. I need to go see Roy and McGee's head to head, but it seemed like Roy struggled against him. What is it that people don't like about his game? Guys has about every physical attribute you'd hope for in a center.

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    I could have sworn I heard somewhere that McGee is looking for 14mill a yr. I don't see how he could even be considered an option to replace Roy. This has to be nothing more than posturing. If the FO is seriously considering not matching, theyI'll be Pritch Slapping themselves.

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    If we lose Hibbert and JaVale is open to a contract under 10 million per, I'd guess I'd consider it. Would probably have to move to a more perimeter-oriented style though.
    Good thing some people on this forum are just bulletin board posters and not general managers. OMG!

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    Yep. He's much better than people are giving him credit for.

    http://bkref.com/tiny/wfMau

    If we wanna get technical, Javale scored more points per-minute than Roy, did it more efficiently (TS%: .539 vs. 552; eFG%: .497 vs. .556), pulled down more rebounds per-minute, and blocked more shots per-minute. He also had a terrific postseason showing again the Lakers.

    It's become trendy to belittle McGee, thus, most people do it, but no one in their right mind can deny that he's a very productive basketball player. Although he can't admit it, lest his hypocrisy be exposed, McGee provides exactly the type of production that Kstat is dreaming of Andre Drummond giving Detroit in the future -- efficient scoring, big time rebounding, and a bunch of blocked shots.

    I'd happily take him at $10M per-season. I'm sure Denver would match that, though.

    By the way, Denver had a superior winning percentage with McGee than with Nene.

    Denver, w/ Nene: 16-12 (.571)
    Denver, w/ McGee: 13-7 (.650)

    Although, to be fair, Washington had a far superior record with Nene. It looks like a win/win trade, although give me the 24-year-old over the 29-year-old going forward.
    Exactly. It's trendy.

    The new thing is laughing at how dumb McGee supposedly is. He's very talented however, although he is ADHD like on the court sometimes. But most of the time he's rebounding well, playing good defense and scoring efficiently. (great cuts to the basket and put backs)

    I'd love to have JaVale. But then again I don't base my opinons on players off of ******** narratives created by ESPN.
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    How bout Resign Roy.
    Sign Javale.
    Trade DWest, DC and 2 future draft picks for Rondo.
    Then we can go kick some serious A S S!

    Hibbert / Plumlee
    McGee / Hans
    Granger / George
    George / Hill
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    I really do think he'll be as good as or better than Tyson Chandler and he has the potential to be better than Roy Hibbert.

    Javale is a much better finisher around the Rim than Roy will ever be. He doesn't get knocked to the floor 7 times a game either.

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    Javale McGee
    2012-13 Season
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    11.1 6.1 1.9 25.13 in 19.6 minutes per game.

    Roy Hibbert
    2012-13 Season
    PPG RPG BLKPG PER
    8.5 8.0 2.4 12.08 in 28.8 minutes per game.

    So far through 10 games for both Roy and Javale, I know which guy I'd rather have. It's a long season though. Let's revisit this every 10 games or so.

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    Javale McGee
    2012-13 Season
    PPG RPG BLKPG PER
    11.1 6.1 1.9 25.13 in 19.6 minutes per game.

    Roy Hibbert
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    PPG RPG BLKPG PER
    8.5 8.0 2.4 12.08 in 28.8 minutes per game.

    So far through 10 games for both Roy and Javale, I know which guy I'd rather have. It's a long season though. Let's revisit this every 10 games or so.
    As soon as I saw this thread bumped, I got sad.

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    As soon as I saw this thread bumped, I got sad.
    You had to know it was coming. I'm not making any final judgments. I plan on watching this situation carefully all season long to see who got the better deal.

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    Teams are collapsing on Hibbert and focusing the defense on stopping him. Nobody is doing that with McGee. If teams guarded Hibbert like they guard McGee, they'd be giving up 30ppg to Roy every night.

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    Has Hibbert even scored 30 points in any game for his career? I sort of doubt it. Hibbert will never be even a 20 PPG scorer. I'd be thrilled if he hit 15.
    Last edited by Dece; 11-19-2012 at 07:40 PM. Reason: Looked it up, 30 is his career high.

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    Has Hibbert even scored 30 points in any game for his career? I sort of doubt it. Hibbert will never be even a 20 PPG scorer. I'd be thrilled if he hit 15.
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    McGee and Hawes were two guys I would have went after if they wouldn't have signed Roy. It'll be interesting to see if George Karl will play McGee more minutes as the season goes on. You can see by his PER he is crazy impactful in only 19.6 mins a game.

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    McGee can't even start over Kosta Koufus. He's fine as a backup, but Wiz fans and Nugget fans know just how many bone-headed plays McGee will get into if given enough playing time.

    Btw, I'll bet Hibbert's offense would look tons better too if he's playing with Andre Miller all the time...

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