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    No disrespect, but I have seen this player A player B crap in several threads.

    It is petty, and quite silly. Just say the two players names.
    I'm sure you have seen it. And those posters had their reasons for using it, and I had mine. My reason was well-considered and intentional, and it had the desired effect; i.e. a poster simply assuming Hibbert has had the better career.
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    Default Re: Why am I not supposed to like Chris Kaman?

    Corey Wallace ‏@coreywallace_

    @HPbasketball Considering the price tag, who is the better option for the Pacers, Roy Hibbert or Chris Kaman?
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    @coreywallace_ Roy Hibbert a hundred times over
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    Default Re: Why am I not supposed to like Chris Kaman?

    As hard as Roy works, he's going to get better. Match.

    Roy and PG. Our future.

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    Default Re: Why am I not supposed to like Chris Kaman?

    Quote Originally Posted by vapacersfan View Post
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    No disrespect, but I have seen this player A player B crap in several threads.

    It is petty, and quite silly. Just say the two players names.

    EDIT: Kstat beat me to it, my bad

    As Ramitt said, it is crazy how some arguments are only based on stats. There is a reason why teams and agents negotiate after watching games, and dont just read the box score after every game.

    lies, damn lies, and statistics
    I'll defend the Player A vs Player B method. If you do not realize who the players are (everyone already did because we have seen it 10x), it tends to take the emotional bias out of it. We all know how emotionally tied a lot of posters are to Roy, myself included. This was probably not the best time to use it, but it was a little disturbing the first time I saw it. Centers certainly have inflated salaries, but a max contract for a 13, 9 and 2 player is hard to swallow for me. Considering what these other scrubs are getting offered, we have to match. Kaman is a no for me. Hibbert is a yes.

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    Hicksey, I agree. It can be effective. To me it a cheap ploy, however, because it relies on baiting another poster.

    However, I think it is just as effective (if not more) to lay out your argument, then say "While you may be attached to Roy Hibbert because all he has done, look at these numbers. Can you tell me you would be this attached if his name was not Hibbert or if you never knew who this player was"

    Regardless, it is even lamer the 10th times you see it.

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    Back on topic, I 100% agree with you. I am torn on Hibbert (I think he will improve, but he has a lot of work left to do) but I remember how mad I was when we lost Brad Miller. I was vocal about wanting Miller, and I agreed with a lot of posters who thought he was a huge key for us (Hicks and Jay come to mind, though I may be wrong about Jay).

    Others were proven correct over time (most Bulletproof) that he would not hold up and it could be a bad investment. Botton line is the same now as it was back then. Big men are hard to come by, and they are often what we would call "overpaid" (that really is a funny phrase when tallking about millionares and billionares isnt it?)

    Regardless, as has been pointed out numerous times this is all posturing, and when it is all said and done I expect Roy will be a Pacer. If he moves on it will suck, but nothing would suck more for me then seeing the Pacers letting him go then seeing him turn into an amazing All star type player...and or winning a NBA Title ala Ron Artest.

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    Unless Kaman signs at a bargain contract, to me it's a no brainer. Roy is younger, more durable, and has his best years still ahead of him. You can't say any of those for Kaman. Not to mention, Roy is probably one of the most popular Pacers right now within the fan base.

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    44% for a Center is real bad.
    Did you feel it was bad when Roy shot 46% before last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HickeyS2000 View Post
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    I'll defend the Player A vs Player B method. If you do not realize who the players are (everyone already did because we have seen it 10x), it tends to take the emotional bias out of it. We all know how emotionally tied a lot of posters are to Roy, myself included. This was probably not the best time to use it, but it was a little disturbing the first time I saw it. Centers certainly have inflated salaries, but a max contract for a 13, 9 and 2 player is hard to swallow for me. Considering what these other scrubs are getting offered, we have to match. Kaman is a no for me. Hibbert is a yes.
    Sure, it takes the emotion out of it, but it also takes ALL OTHER CONTEXT and all other information out of it at the same time. I'm not a big fan of it; too reductionist.

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