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    Exclamation Sam Amick (Sports Illustrated): Portland Offers Roy Hibbert Max

    I got this news from here: RealGM Portland offers max to Hibbert? Sam Amick

    Amick has his Tweets protected, so I don't know if it's legitimate or not. I'd imagine it is.

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    Source: Portland GM Neil Olshey & team prez Larry Miller visited restricted free agent center Roy Hibbert tonight in DC, offered max deal

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    Indiana did not offer a max deal, and Hibbert is now leaning to Blazers unless Pacers match. One other unnamed team offered max.

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    Apparently Blazers and one other unnamed team offered Roy the max and he's leaning towards Portland unless Pacers offer him max. They went to DC to see him. Looks like Roy won't give us the hometown discount. I'm on my phone so I can't post the whole link but Sam Amick's twitter is @sam_amick

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    Default Re: Sam Amick (Sports Illustrated): Portland Offers Roy Hibbert Max

    We have to max, there is no choice if he signs the offer sheet, we simply cannot afford to lose him.

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    We all knew this day was coming about half way through this season. This has been such a debate and really, I've never seen someone's perceived fair salary fluctuate so much. There were times last year I didn't think he deserved over 6mpy. Then this year there were times I thought 10mpy would be too much. Now he gets the max...

    What will the Pacers do? I don't think he is a max player, but who else could they possibly get to replace him? I don't think they could. The salary cap ramifications are huge for the club. Signing Hibbert to a max deal and signing G. Hill will make things tight again for years. Then there is PG. How good will be? Will he command a huge pay day as well?

    This is an important crossroads for the team.

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    Oh and, http://twitter.com/#!/sam_amick
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    Indiana did not offer a max deal, and Hibbert is now leaning to Blazers unless Pacers match. One other unnamed team offered max.

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    Default Re: Portland offers Roy max (via Sam Amick)

    It's not really a crossroads. We match.

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    It's not really a crossroads. We match.
    You don't know that, I think it's 50/50. And even if they do match it still creates a salary problem in the future. Hence a crossroads. Just because you want them to match doesn't mean they are going to.

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    Default Re: Portland offers Roy max (via Sam Amick)

    We are going to match, a crossroads implies two real possibilities, not resigning Roy isn't an option. We'll match if he decides to sign an offer sheet.

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    I'm sorry I didn't know you guys were Kevin Pritchard and Donnie Walsh incognito on this forum. It is a possibility that they don't match.

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    Default Re: Portland offers Roy max (via Sam Amick)

    what would the approximate numbers be on a max deal for hibbert??

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    Incredibly remote. It's Donnie Walsh back for petes sakes, he's a fan favorite, was largely expected to receive the max deal for quite some time, resigning our own free agents is well known to be the brass's top priority, and it isn't really that outrageous a max anyhow.

    I guarantee you they match, Walsh and Pritchard's first move in charge isn't going to be letting Roy Hibbert walk. It's by no means 50/50 unless you just mean there are two choices instead of how likely each one is.

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    what would the approximate numbers be on a max deal for hibbert??
    Around 4 years / $55 million if he signs offer sheet from Portland (or someone else not the Pacers).
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    Default Re: Portland offers Roy max (via Sam Amick)

    You guys are making is sound like its an easy decision i dont think it is. im extremely hesitant to match i just dont think he is a max guy far to inconsistent

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    Yea the 50/50 thing is me just guessing. Anyway, enough banter with semantics. The crossroads I implied for the franchise is about the future and what a max deal for Hibbert and likely large contract for G Hill does for any other moves we make down the line for other free agents and Paul George etc..

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    In my opinion this is a GOOD thing. I've been under the assumption Roy would get a max, and we'd match it. The good part is matching an offer sheet from another team keeps his annual raise to 4.5% instead of the 7.5% it would've been had we outright negotiated an extension

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    This is not surprising as it has been predicted that Roy will certainly get max one way or another. What will be the backup plan if the Pacers will not match?

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    Around 4 years / $55 million if he signs offer sheet from Portland (or someone else not the Pacers).
    what is that, 12M in his first year? that's not too bad at all.

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    Time to S&T him.
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    Default Re: Portland offers Roy max (via Sam Amick)

    Not signing him would ruin everything the Pacers built up last year. We're not even close to as good of a team without him. Sure would be pleasant deciding not to resign Roy, Williams saying no, Nash saying no, EG being matched, the Pacers start to Panic, and end up overpaying some schmoe jsut because we weren't willing to overpay by maybe 2 million dollars a year for our All-Star Center, if it's a crossroads then the choice is obvious, letting him go would be a disaster, we wouldn't be better than 4th or 5th in the East, and that's with Chicago out of the picture.

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    This is what I'm guessing happened. Pacers offered a little less per year but gave an extra year, thus still totaling more than the other teams. Roy wants to stay here but pinch every penny he can out of the Pacers. He wants the Pacers to offer their max. The Pacers will probably just have to wait and see if Roy will sign an offer sheet leaving behind the extra year and money. Injuries happen so he will be taking a risk. If he signs an offer sheet, we match but he won't get the extra year.

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    We have to max, there is no choice if he signs the offer sheet, we simply cannot afford to lose him.
    I don't think Roy's a max player on the basketball court. If he played more minutes maybe, but paying the max for a 30 minute player doesn't seem too smart. AND we still don't have anyone that can get him the ball. I don't know...

    I think I'd still match because of how much time and work we have invested in him (+area 55), but I wouldn't feel good about it.

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    It's 14MPY minus 1M over the contract. They can structure it differently to back load it, but it equals out to be that.

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    This is not surprising as it has been predicted that Roy will certainly get max one way or another. What will be the backup plan if the Pacers will not match?
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    I don't think Roy's a max player on the basketball court. If he played more minutes maybe, but paying the max for a 30 minute player doesn't seem too smart. AND we still don't have anyone that can get him the ball. I don't know...

    I think I'd still match because of how much time and work we have invested in him (+area 55), but I wouldn't feel good about it.
    Roy's max isn't all that much it averages about 14 million a year, starting at just around 12 million. Most would agree he's worth between 10-12 million, losing him over a slight overpay would be a disaster, the Pacers are barely a HCA team in the east without him. It would ruin all the positive momentum of the last season, we aren't signing a better FA than Roy in all likelyhood, we HAVE to match.

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    Roy's max isn't all that much it averages about 14 million a year, starting at just around 12 million. Most would agree he's worth between 10-12 million, losing him over a slight overpay would be a disaster, the Pacers are barely a HCA team in the east without him. It would ruin all the positive momentum of the last season, we aren't signing a better FA than Roy in all likelyhood, we HAVE to match.
    Really dude does this make sense to you? 14 million a year to 12 ppg 9 rpg? Granger was a rising star back when he signed the extension and he took a WHOLE LOT LESS money. Granger's max salary will be Hibbert's starting salary.
    If all he cares for is money. I hope we S&T him to the bobcats or something.
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