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    Isn't that all relative though? It seems that the FO wanted both and got them. How does it change the outcome? I'm not that angry that Plumlee will earn slightly more than Johnson because that is the only difference. Unless of course you are a strong advocate for Johnson earning more than Plums.
    I am not a fan of giving him a guaranteed contract and I think there were better players available, but what I really meant was that there were IMHO (and looking over the internet I'm far from the only one) better players left and that we could have gotten those and then STILL get Plumlee in the second round.
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    I don't know what everyone expected with the 26th pick, but a solid 2nd unit guy is a pretty good pick-up to me.
    Most here expected PJ3. Which is why a lot of them got angry when the FO didn't not take the risk on him. People largely prefer risky picks to safer ones. Especially, outside of the lottery.

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    I look forward to Orlando Johnson a lot more.

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    I'm going to consider Orlando Johnson our 26th pick and that we bought the rights to Plumlee in the 2nd round That way, I can feel a lot better about this draft night.
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    Most here expected PJ3. Which is why a lot of them got angry when the FO didn't not take the risk on him. People largely prefer risky picks to safer ones. Especially, outside of the lottery.
    I honestly don't think PJ3 was even on our board.

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    I honestly don't think PJ3 was even on our board.
    I have not heard anything about him prior to the draft so chances are that he wasn't. However, that didn't stop people from wishing that we would draft him

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    We got 2 players that fit needs we had coming into the draft.

    The shoulda-woulda-coulda's will continue until the season starts, and long afterwards no doubt...

    I am happy with the players we have. Neither of them seem like stuck up morons, and they can both play basketball in positions of need.
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    PJ3 has a much higher ceiling that Plumlee ever will

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    PJ3 has a much higher ceiling that Plumlee ever will
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    PJ3 has a much higher ceiling that Plumlee ever will
    And?

    Does one's ceiling dictate what kind of an NBA career a player will have?

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    I didn't think we would take PJIII, but there were several other players that I felt were better. In the first round where you dish out guaranteed contracts I want us to select the best player available and not the player that fills a need, you do that in the second round and cut them lose if they aren't what you expected them to be.

    Some of you are sounding like you would have been happy with whoever we would have picked at #26 even if it's Eddie Gills grandfather, just because it's the Pacers making the pick.
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    In the first round where you dish out guaranteed contracts I want us to select the best player available and not the player that fills a need, you do that in the second round and cut them lose if they aren't what you expected them to be.
    The problem with this is that BPA is completely subjective.

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    Clearly your vertical jump doesn't determine whether you'll be a great NBA player. But factor in Plumlee's size, NBA body and toughness on the boards and a number of GMs are convinced he could be an athletic rebounder and shot blocker off the bench for them in the mold of Jeff Foster.

    This is the problem. Looking at combine numbers and assuming that a guy is tough. This guy isn't tough.



    Maybe you can inject him with PCP before games or something.

    That would at least make him tougher. He'll never be a shotblocker if his amazing vertical couldn't get him more blocks per game against small college kids.
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    I hope I am wrong, but I have a feeling that a better undrafted free agent player will have to be cut in camp, since Miles will have a guaranteed contract.
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    The problem with this is that BPA is completely subjective.
    I think it's pretty safe to say that NO ONE thought Plumlee was the best player available. Personally I don't even think the Pacers thought that, but wanted to fill a need badly.
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    I don't know why people are so mad about Miles. I saw his workout he killed. He's gonna b good for the pacers.
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    I think it's pretty safe to say that NO ONE thought Plumlee was the best player available. Personally I don't even think the Pacers thought that, but wanted to fill a need badly.
    Well they at least thought he was the best at the backup 5 because they passed on Festus Ezili.

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    Well they at least thought he was the best at the backup 5 because they passed on Festus Ezili.
    Hey, he might have been the best available backup 5 at #26, but that definitely doesn't make him the best player available.
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    Hey, he might have been the best available backup 5 at #26, but that definitely doesn't make him the best player available.
    Right, but I'm saying if they were going to fill a need, they took what they felt was the BPA at that need

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    I think it's pretty safe to say that NO ONE thought Plumlee was the best player available. Personally I don't even think the Pacers thought that, but wanted to fill a need badly.
    I can certainly agree with this. But if Miles played as the best player in the workouts as those sources are saying then I cannot blame the FO for picking him.

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    I think it's pretty safe to say that NO ONE thought Plumlee was the best player available. Personally I don't even think the Pacers thought that, but wanted to fill a need badly.
    The problem is (and this happens every single year when someone does not like the pick) that the people frothing at the mouth over this pick are going to list 4 or 5 guys that were "obviously" better choices. Then 2 years down the road, when 1 of those guys is putting up decent numbers and the rest are out of league or on their way out, they are going to tell you how smart they are as they point back to the one good player.

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    Kid kind of reminds me of McBob's athletic ability with a better shot.

    Where on earth did you get the idea that Miles Plumlee has a better shot than McRoberts. Miles can't shoot. When has Miles ever shown he can shoot in a game?

    Duke actually encourages their big men to shoot if they possess the ability. Ryan Kelly has the green light to hoist up as many 3's as he wants. There is a reason that Miles only attempted a handful of jumpers last year. It was because he bricked them all.
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    I don't know why people are so mad about Miles. I saw his workout he killed. He's gonna b good for the pacers.

    LOL, you'll notice he didn't say "I saw him play at Duke, he's going to be good for the pacers."

    That's great Roy. Maybe the NBA will institute a rule that eliminates all actual games, and the NBA title will be given to the team who works out the best.
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    I don't know why people are so mad about Miles. I saw his workout he killed. He's gonna b good for the pacers.
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