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    This summer's free agent class has something in common with the draft class -- it's not obvious who the second-best available player will be, but everyone knows which guy will be the top choice. In the draft, that's Anthony Davis, while in free agency, it's Deron Williams. We know Davis is ticketed for New Orleans, but where will Williams land? ESPN.com's Chris Broussard shares a few updates on this year's top free agent in his latest Insider-only piece, so let's dive in....

    Williams has yet to make a decision, and is still weighing a number of factors that will affect his choice.
    Although D-Will can make more guaranteed money by re-signing with the Nets, as I explained here, that's not expected to be a deciding factor.
    Williams geniunely likes the Nets' franchise and the new location, and is more optimistic about the team's future than some observers are. However, if Gerald Wallace signs elsewhere, it figures to reduce the odds of Williams re-signing.
    While the point guard would like to play in Brooklyn with Dwight Howard, he won't let Howard's future dictate his decision.
    The Mavericks are still viewed as the Nets' greatest competition, but the Suns are another team that could pose a serious threat to Brooklyn. If the Suns don't re-sign Steve Nash, they should not be counted out of the Williams sweepstakes, says Broussard.
    According to Broussard, Williams, a Dallas native, is unlikely to sign in any cold-weather city besides New York. That would rule out a team like the Pacers, which might otherwise be a good fit.
    If Williams tells the Nets he won't re-sign, the team could explore sign-and-trade opportunities. However, the Nets would rather just take the cap space than acquire marginal players in return, so a sign-and-trade would probably only happen if the team could land a star. Broussard cites the Lakers' Andrew Bynum and the Knicks' Carmelo Anthony as two possibilities.
    I guess it wasn't really realistic at any point, but I'm sure all of us had that thought of waking up in the morning and reading something like "Deron Joins the Pacers".
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    I don't consider Chris Broussard to be news.

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    That's only bad news if you were thinking that he'd actually come here...much less that Bird would be willing to send him an offer.
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    Wait, Indianapolis is a 'cold weather' city?

    Or does 'cold weather city' just mean 'a city with seasons'?

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    That's only bad news if you were thinking that he'd actually come here...much less that Bird would be willing to send him an offer.
    I'm a Bird fan and I would be pissed if I found out he didn't even attempt to land him.

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    Broussard is stupid. I firmly believe I am a better source than he is
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    He's stupid, but he's stating the obvious.

    The sillier thing was pretending not to notice deron Williams had an ego as big as any other superstar because he made some transparent PR comments about wanting to play for a winner...
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    You mean we had a chance?
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    I find it also very interesting that evidently D-Will and J-Kidd are a package deal...

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    I'm a Bird fan and I would be pissed if I found out he didn't even attempt to land him.
    Well, if Bird's initial words about Hibbert are true, then Bird is worried about having to overpay Hibbert. Hibbert's maximum salary would start somewhere around 13M. If Bird is expressing negative thoughts about having to sign Hibbert to 13M, then he sure as hell isn't going to sign Williams to a contract starting at 16M-17M.

    Williams was never on the team's radar to begin with. A lot of folks have just never wanted to accept that, I guess.

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    Well, if Bird's initial words about Hibbert are true, then Bird is worried about having to overpay Hibbert. Hibbert's maximum salary would start somewhere around 13M. If Bird is expressing negative thoughts about having to sign Hibbert to 13M, then he sure as hell isn't going to sign Williams to a contract starting at 16M-17M.

    Williams was never on the team's radar to begin with. A lot of folks have just never wanted to accept that, I guess.
    I'd rather pay DWill $17M than overpay Hibbs at $13M. Hibbs is a solid player, but DWill is a game changer.
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    I never thought it was a realistic possibility to begin with. If Deron Williams was willing to play for a competitive small market team, he wouldn't have forced his way out of Utah.

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    I never thought it was a realistic possibility to begin with. If Deron Williams was willing to play for a competitive small market team, he wouldn't have forced his way out of Utah.
    ..... he didn't. He didn't even want to board the plane to leave Utah. He was upset.

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    ..... he didn't. He didn't even want to board the plane to leave Utah. He was upset.
    He was upset that Utah traded him to the nets. If you think he wanted to stay in Utah, you're being naive.

    Dwight Howard was in tears over nearly being dealt to the lakers. Doesnt mean he was upset about
    leaving Orlando.
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    I never thought it was a realistic possibility to begin with. If Deron Williams was willing to play for a competitive small market team, he wouldn't have forced his way out of Utah.
    I don't think Williams forced his way out of Utah. It was a pre-emptive strike by the Jazz after Carmelo Anthony held the Nuggets hostage. They got the best trade they could at the time (Harris, Favors, and the pick that was eventually Enes Kanter).

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    Yep. Deron didn't orchestrate that move, so they traded him before he was in a position to Dwight them. Given his extremely narrow wish list (Dallas, Brooklyn and nobody else), it seems they were right.
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    To be honest, anyone making this level of career decisions based on weather puts up a huge red flag for me about their priorities.

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    To be honest, anyone making this level of career decisions based on weather puts up a huge red flag for me about their priorities.
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    I'd rather pay DWill $17M than overpay Hibbs at $13M. Hibbs is a solid player, but DWill is a game changer.
    He didn't change much in NJ, lol
    Why so SERIOUS

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    He's a great talent. He just doesn't make his teammates better. Other than Nash, rondo and Paul, I can't think of any elite PGs that do.

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    He's a great talent. He just doesn't make his teammates better. Other than Nash, rondo and Paul, I can't think of any elite PGs that do.
    Maybe not elite, but Drogic, Rubio, Conley
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    Rubio is on the cusp, but the rest aren't elite guards.

    Being pass first doesn't necessarily mean you make your teammates better. Sometimes it just means you aren't terribly good offensively and you understand your role.

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    In other terrible journalist news, Peter Vecsey reports that Larry Bird will be leaving the Pacers' organization next year. Or the year after that. Or the year after that. He finally settled on eventually.

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    What is the deal with NBA players wanting warm climates? They play in an arena!

    Meanwhile you rarely hear weather being a FA factor for baseball or football players.
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    He's a great talent. He just doesn't make his teammates better. Other than Nash, rondo and Paul, I can't think of any elite PGs that do.
    I think he make his teammates better. Not quite as well as those 3, but better than most. He made Carlos Boozer look like an all star.

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