Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."
I think you will find that I only say that when one of you "pie in the sky" types says they can seem them winning six to eight games...... Ha, ha, ha......
So, motormouth, I showed you some links and sources, where are yours showing the Colts will indeed win six game, or five games or, hell, four games.....
The first one is about Luck. I know most experts and services say Luck will be a star. I am rooting for him too.
Number two is bogus. That is just a rant by a fan wearing the same rosecolored glasses some of you here wear too. That is not an expert opinion. He is predicting 8-8. What a fool.
Number 3 is a good source and I read it. It predicts 5.5 wins. I don't agree with them but, yes, that is a valid source and it certainly counts.......
4-6 wins is the most likely result this year in my opinion.
I can't see us not matching last years record given how much more talent Luck has than any QB we had available last year. I'd say less than 2 wins is about as unlikely as a playoff berth unless the team just proves incapable of picking up the new system.
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I just can't wait until 2013. We will be free agent pimps in a year with all the dead money we have coming off the cap. That, combined with Luck's growth and some more draft picks will leave us contending for the division in a year, IMO.
Yup, after this year the Colts will have a lot of opportunities to add talent to the team when you factor both the draft and the money available to be big players in the free agency.
Most rational fans realize how hard it is to predict with any degree of confidence how the Colts will fare after this year (let alone over the next 5 years).
Also a good article
Since some people believe in what Mel Kiper has to say.
An NFL Draft Guru Says Andrew Luck Is Much Better Than Peyton Manning
Cork Gaines|October 07, 2011|5,727|5
Andrew Luck of Stanford is the consensus pick to be the top pick in next year's NFL draft. He is so good, that people have already began speculating, just four weeks into the season, which teams might lose games on purpose for a chance to draft Luck.
But how good is Luck? Well, according to ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper, he is one of the best ever, even better than Peyton Manning.
This morning on the "Mike and Mike Show" on ESPN Radio, Kiper discussed his ratings for Luck and what people in the industry are saying about this year's Heisman front-runner
You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/...#ixzz1xzmSWIFwOn comparisons to Peyton Manning:
People can say all they want about Peyton Manning...Peyton Manning had people in the NFL that were not high on him at all. I had people tell me that if his name was Peyton Jones, he would be a third-round pick, that Ryan Leaf was better...There was no consensus on Manning. There is a consensus on Andrew Luck.
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I think Luck will prove to be a much more CLUTCH player than Manning down the road. Peyton deserves all the accolades but when it boils down to it more times than not he didn't play his best when it mattered the most.
Clutch is so overrated in the NFL. It's a much bigger deal in the NBA when it can come down to one player, one defender, and the basket. In football, it's 22 players all with huge roles, and one player messing up can ruin a play. Manning had a higher playoff QB rating than Brady, at least at one point in 2010 I believe. Luck is going to be amazing, but it's not because he's "clutch".
My definition of clutch is playing your best when the lights are brightest. It's possible to play your best and still lose in a team sport like football too.
I didn't even read any of your rant, but the part that makes this post absolute gold and I read through the entire thread to see if anyone else had mentioned it. PacersPenguins didn't name anybody at all in his post about trolls, yet you took offense to it. Guilty conscience much?
p.s. sorry for quoting him...I guess
4-12. That means I'm one of those pie in the sky folks who think the team will be TWICE as good as they were last year. Silly me. I should know that translated in to Troll, that means I think they will win the Super Bowl.
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