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  • Luck hits field to rave reviews

    I'm glad he is done with school and is finally able to be with the team. It's exciting seeing him out there. We have a bright future ahead with him.

    http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/col...o-rave-reviews

    Luck hits field to rave reviews

    Updated: Tuesday, 12 Jun 2012, 5:33 PM EDT
    Published : Tuesday, 12 Jun 2012, 5:33 PM EDT

    MICHAEL MAROT,AP Sports Writer

    INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Andrew Luck couldn't wait to start his new job, and the Indianapolis Colts couldn't wait to get him back on the field.

    On Tuesday, both sides finally got their wish.

    After a 5½-week absence from the Colts' offseason workouts, the No. 1 overall draft pick showed up in a red No. 12 jersey and started showing everyone what he'd learned while attending his final classes at Stanford.

    "I'm just trying to soak everything in, and I'm starting to have a good understanding of what's going on here," Luck said after Tuesday morning's light one-hour workout.

    Admittedly, he's still trying to master the playbook, get on the same page with his new teammates and figure out how to get around Indianapolis. But none of that mattered Tuesday as dozens of reporters, photographers and television cameras monitored each pass Luck threw.

    Vice president and general counsel Dan Emerson, who has been negotiating Luck's contract, watched the first half of a two-hour afternoon practice. Team owner Jim Irsay and two of his three daughters watched the second half of the afternoon session from a golf cart.

    What everyone saw was a nearly flawless performance.

    Luck connected on his first 12 throws in the morning team drill and only one of 16 passes hit the ground — a ball that hit rookie tight end Dwayne Allen in the chest and ricocheted to the ground.

    Coach Chuck Pagano noted that Luck didn't make a single mental mistake. Griff Whalen and Coby Fleener, who worked out with fellow alumnus Luck at Stanford over the past month, said Luck seemed as calm and in control as he was in college.

    "He's one of the greatest learners I've ever met and he's already up to speed," said Fleener, Indy's second-round draft pick in April.

    League rules prohibit rookies from attending team mini-camps until they finish classes with the exception of one three-day rookie camp, which ended May 6.

    Indy promised to do anything it could to help Luck — video conferences, conference calls, even using Irsay's private jet to ferry players around the country for individual workouts. The NFL nixed all of it until Luck finished his final two architectural design courses last Thursday.

    The resourceful Luck came up with a solution: Using his free time in the morning to hone his football skills, while blocking out the afternoons for classwork.

    It wasn't the way Luck wanted to start his pro career.

    "I'd wake up and have a serious lack of motivation to go to class, so I'd work out in the mornings, then eat lunch and go to class in the afternoon," Luck said. "I think I managed to learn the playbook a bit."

    What he needs now is repetition.

    In morning team drills, Luck hooked up repeatedly with veteran receiver Austin Collie and threw his final couple of passes to perennial Pro Bowl receiver Reggie Wayne.

    The afternoon session focused primarily on individual work, and Luck overthrew both veterans three times, all on deep patterns.

    Indy is scheduled to hold another workout Wednesday afternoon in front of fans at Lucas Oil Stadium before wrapping up the mini-camp Thursday.

    It's already clear to Pagano and others around the team complex that Luck is everything they expected.

    "The guy's off the charts for football IQ," Pagano said. "He came in over the weekend and we had a little session Monday with the rookies, which league rules allow, and he hasn't missed a beat."

    Luck was dubbed the most NFL-ready quarterback since Manning before the 2011 draft. But instead of taking the money and jumping to the NFL, Luck went back for one more season at Stanford and had the Cardinal in the BCS title hunt until a November loss to Oregon.

    A month later, he finished second in the Heisman Trophy voting for the second straight year.

    The Colts became the front-runner for Luck's services when Manning missed the entire season after having neck surgery, and the Colts wound up a league-worst 2-14.

    Irsay cut ties with Manning on March 7, releasing the four-time league MVP rather than pay him a $28 million bonus, clearing the way for Luck's ballyhooed arrival.

    "I think I have to earn the face of the franchise stuff," he said. "I have to learn as much as I can to help these guys win games and get back to the playoffs."

    Luck plans to make one more trip to the West Coast, for this weekend's graduation ceremonies at Stanford. After that, he'll focus solely on football.

    "I have no obligations after mini-camp outside of football," he said. "So I'll focus on football and we'll have to get some work in after the OTAs (offseason team activities) end."

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    Re: Luck hits field to rave reviews

    I think we are going to be just fine in the post-Manning era.

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      It's exciting, for sure. How blessed the Colts seem to be. This was 1997 Spurs kind of luck.

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        Re: Luck hits field to rave reviews

        Originally posted by Hicks View Post
        It's exciting, for sure. How blessed the Colts seem to be.

        Agreed. It's a damn shame how the Manning era ended and it's certainly not the ending we envisioned. But to cut ties with a legend like Manning and then immediately have Luck fall into our laps is incredible. Think of all the other NFL teams that would kill to be in that position. We are so lucky that we just have the opportunity to see if this guy pans out for us.

        And it's not just Luck that I'm excited about. Our franchise seems like it has a new attitude and vibe to it. We now have a coach that actually looks like he will behave like an NFL coach and you know, do things like (gasp) yell at his players on the sidelines to fire them up.
        Last edited by Sollozzo; 06-12-2012, 10:16 PM.

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          I think we will surprise people this year. I saw a lot of the talking heads saying we would likely get the top pick in next year's draft too. I don't think so. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we won 6-8 games next year. Obviously that's a tad optimistic, and our team still has a ton of holes, but I like our offseason. I am very interested to see how many two tight end sets we run with Fleener and Allen.

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            Originally posted by cdash View Post
            I think we will surprise people this year. I saw a lot of the talking heads saying we would likely get the top pick in next year's draft too. I don't think so. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we won 6-8 games next year. Obviously that's a tad optimistic, and our team still has a ton of holes, but I like our offseason. I am very interested to see how many two tight end sets we run with Fleener and Allen.

            I agree. We were actually competitive in several of the games at the beginning of last season but lost because we had the worst QB play in the entire league with Collins and Painter. Luck as a rookie should be significantly better than either of them were last season and that right there will give us a chance to win more games.

            We have a very favorable home schedule. Green Bay is the only tough game at home. The road schedule is pretty tough though. I think 6 wins is feasible if we catch some breaks. Then draft wise again next season, sign some FA's with the cap space we will have, and watch Luck and the other young guys grow. I expect to be contending for the division in 2013. It's not like this is some scary division.

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              I just hope Pagano can actually develop a QB. Coaching is hugely important, and I don't want Pagano to limit Luck. Let him throw the damn ball.


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                Originally posted by Hicks View Post
                It's exciting, for sure. How blessed the Colts seem to be. This was 1997 Spurs kind of luck.
                I hope that luck translates to 4 titles too...
                Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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                  Then we'd have to endure the future playoff losses and the "we should have won five" manifestos.
                  Originally posted by Natston;n3510291
                  I want the people to know that they still have 2 out of the 3 T.J.s working for them, and that ain't bad...

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                    Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                    I agree. We were actually competitive in several of the games at the beginning of last season but lost because we had the worst QB play in the entire league with Collins and Painter. Luck as a rookie should be significantly better than either of them were last season and that right there will give us a chance to win more games.

                    We have a very favorable home schedule. Green Bay is the only tough game at home. The road schedule is pretty tough though. I think 6 wins is feasible if we catch some breaks. Then draft wise again next season, sign some FA's with the cap space we will have, and watch Luck and the other young guys grow. I expect to be contending for the division in 2013. It's not like this is some scary division.
                    If this team wins six games next year the coach should be a runaway coach of the year and the new GM executive of the year. You have to win two before you can win six and you have to win one before you can win two.... Baby steps...........

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                      Originally posted by cdash View Post
                      I think we are going to be just fine in the post-Manning era.
                      Yeah, we will be just fine after five years of living in the cellar and getting high draft picks and if Luck doesn't get hurt playing behind our patched up line. I could see him playing only six or eight games this year and I hope I am wrong about all of this.... Just my opinion that we will be years getting back to being a winning team much less competing for championships.......

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                        Re: Luck hits field to rave reviews

                        Originally posted by OlBlu View Post
                        Yeah, we will be just fine after five years of living in the cellar and getting high draft picks and if Luck doesn't get hurt playing behind our patched up line. I could see him playing only six or eight games this year and I hope I am wrong about all of this.... Just my opinion that we will be years getting back to being a winning team much less competing for championships.......

                        1) We didn't win a playoff game with Manning until his sixth season. He threw 23 interceptions in 2001, a season in which we went 6-10. In 2002, we were blown out 41-0 by the Jets in the playoffs. Let's not forget that there were rough patches in the first few years of Manning's career. He didn't get *consistently* great until the 03 season. When Luck is struggling at the beginning of his career and you are calling him a bust, don't forget that Manning had plenty of struggles too.

                        2) Five years is such a long time. The 49ers went 6-10 in 2010 and improved to 13-3 last year. Things can change overnight in the NFL. What if we strike gold in the draft again next year? What if we use our cap space next season to sign some guys that come here and really help us out? We play in a fairly weak division. Last year we had the opportunity to win several games at the beginning of the season but lost them because we had the worst QB play in the NFL. Luck as a rookie should be significantly better than the scrubs we threw out there last season. That alone will give us a chance to win more than the two games we won last season.

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                        • #13
                          You have to have an argument that isn't severely flawed and you recognize the downside to before people will take you seriously...baby steps though...

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                            Re: Luck hits field to rave reviews

                            Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                            I just hope Pagano can actually develop a QB. Coaching is hugely important, and I don't want Pagano to limit Luck. Let him throw the damn ball.
                            Pagano will have some influence but I think the guys developing Luck will be Christensen and Arians, the same guy that helped develop a early Manning, but yeah Luck will be fine, before you know it he will be calling the majority of the plays at the line.
                            Why so SERIOUS

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                            • #15
                              Re: Luck hits field to rave reviews

                              Please don't feed (or quote) the troll.

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