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    So it made him less of a tough guy with Howard gone?
    It made it harder to get him involved in the offense.

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    Probably been mentioned, but Avery Bradley's having shoulder surgery and could be out until January. So Boston basically has no 2 guard, until they unleash future MVP E'Twuan Moore anyway.

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    It made it harder to get him involved in the offense.
    especially considering how selective he is. He is a really efficient player who pick his spots and doesn't take bad shots and try to do to much.


    With Rivers and Gordon creating and with Davis down low Anderson is gonna be a great fit as an efficient shooter/ scorer for them.



    Boston has some guy named Jason Terry who is a pretty good SG better than the starter they had last year.

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    Probably been mentioned, but Avery Bradley's having shoulder surgery and could be out until January. So Boston basically has no 2 guard, until they unleash future MVP E'Twuan Moore anyway.
    huh?


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    https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/222081971092865025
    Nets "making progress" on finding a third team to take Kris Humphries in a scenario that would send Dwight Howard to Brooklyn, source says.
    Would like adding Humphries. But man, I'd REALLY hate being the team that made Dwight to Brooklyn happen.

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    Oh yeah. Forgot they got Terry.

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    They still could use one more guard. Lee would be perfect.

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    It made it harder to get him involved in the offense.
    I agree with that, but what happened to his toughness and defense. Excluding the team aspect, what is the excuse for his own efforts. They was less then desirable.
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    Would like adding Humphries. But man, I'd REALLY hate being the team that made Dwight to Brooklyn happen.
    Gotta believe that might be a western conference team...

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    Gotta believe that might be a western conference team...
    Berger says maybe Cleveland

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    ...because they lost Howard with what, 2 weeks left in the season? Kinda hard to adjust on the fly with that.
    I'd agree, but the premise of my post was to say that a lot of Anderson's production was based off of Howard's presence. As another poster stated, nobody's game suffered as dramatically as Anderson's. His offense was predicated off teams double teaming Howard, or 3's in transition.

    He's pretty bad defensively bc he's not strong enough to guard the post, but he's not nearly as fast enough to guard on the perimeter.

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    That sucks. Ayon seems like a rising player....and they are getting them for Ryan freaking Anderson?

    Pacers, seriously, do something. Good lord.
    Plus Orlando gets a nice sized trade exception.

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    Wojo saying Bynum has Houston, Cleveland, and Dallas on his list of places he could go in FA/sign an extension if he was traded. Seems very money-oriented.

    Random, but if we DIDN'T keep Hibbert, and kept some cap space this year....would we have enough cap space to be in the running for Bynum too? I feel like we'd be the best team out of that list, although without Hibbert we will regress. Just a thought. Not sure we'd even want him based on his attitude.

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    Ayon should of been a guy we targeted if we were looking for a great dirty worker at C like Bird said at the draft. He is a solid 2 way guy very athletic sets nice screens good PnR defender and very smart player good passer and knows his role. Could of drafted a high upside guy or BPA like PJ3 and got a player of need via trade.

    very good value for the Magic IMO nice TPE and player
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    Ayon is the prime example of a guy you target in a sign and trade deal. NOLA had no further use for him.

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    Random, but if we DIDN'T keep Hibbert, and kept some cap space this year....would we have enough cap space to be in the running for Bynum too?
    sure (we'd have to pass on Tyler or someone else, but doable).

    but Bynum will have multiple teams offering him the max, if he even gets to free agency.

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    I think more & more the Pacers should get involved in taking K.Humpghries (for/or combo of Hans/DC/D.Jomes), & target L.Williams & G.Green. That is 3/5 of a hell of a 2nd unit IMO.
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    Berger says maybe Cleveland
    Here's an educated guess on how the deal could break down:

    Brooklyn gets Howard and Jason Richardson, trades re-signed Lopez ($12.5 million starting), Humphries ($8 million starting), Brooks, 2013 and 2015 1st round draft picks

    Cleveland gets Humphries ($8 million starting), trades Walton, D.J. Kennedy, 2013 1st round draft pick from Lakers

    Orlando gets Lopez ($12.5 million starting), Walton, Brooks, D.J. Kennedy, 2013 1st round draft picks from Nets and Lakers, 2015 1st round draft pick from Nets, trades Howard and Jason Richardson

    Based on Orlando wanting to get rid of Jason Richardson and get 3 first round draft picks and what works within the salary cap.
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    Am I the only one who thinks "max contracts" has ruined the league somewhat?

    Here is my thinking,

    The problem with Max contracts is it gives equal value to guys like Lebron and Hibbert, and we all know every team would take Lebron over Hibbert if they had the choice, and since players like Lebron can't make more than a certain amount anyways, their decision comes down to possible marketing situation of the location, and that is where the small market teams get screwed over, If lebron was to actually get market level we all know he would make a lot more than he is now, if you allow the market to determine players worth, it would be a lot harder to have a team with 2 or 3 stars, it would make the league more fair, I keep thinking back to the late 90's early 2000's(my personal golden era of the NBA) where stars where scattered all over the NBA, I think its best if the NBA if they got rid of the max contracts and lets owners out bid for a player, I know they put in the max to try to protect the owners, but I just think it just helps big market owners and that is it, anyone who plays fantasy football using an auction format knows what I am talking about, but yeah, that's just my 2cents, interested in what you guys think

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    Pacers free agency grade so far F

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    Pacers free agency grade so far F
    They have an F in free agency since the franchise was founded. This is nothing new........

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    Cleveland gets Humphries ($8 million starting), trades Walton, D.J. Kennedy, 2013 1st round draft pick from Lakers
    Humphries is not restricted, Cleveland can just sign him.
    So if they are in this deal, I'd expect them to get a #1 or some asset for being helpful, not give it up.

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    ...and the Cavs will likely get millions in luxury tax revenue for facilitating this deal...

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    Humphries is not restricted, Cleveland can just sign him.
    So if they are in this deal, I'd expect them to get a #1 or some asset for being helpful, not give it up.
    Good point. How good is Bojan Bogdanovic? Brooklyn owns his rights. Would he be a worthwhile asset for Cleveland?

    Although, thinking about it again, if Cleveland trades Walton for Humphries, they get to keep most of their cap space and sign another player or acquire one via trade. So the clear roster upgrade from Walton to Humphries might be worth a late first rounder.
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    ...and the Cavs will likely get millions in luxury tax revenue for facilitating this deal...
    But they get to potentially hamper the Heat dynasty. I really don't think that's out of the question for their reasoning. I mean, they just passed on Thomas Robinson, to probably trade a #1 pick for a probably overpaid Humphries?

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