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    So glad that chucker is going to the Clippers, but that pretty much opens the door for Nick Young to be with his boy here in Indy. He is a chucker as well.
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    Darn there goes Felton and Lowry. It will be interesting to see what Felton signed for with the Knicks, and what the Lowry trade was.

    Raptors have no reason to keep Calderon now. He's an expiring, so maybe they can find a taker.
    Yes to Calderon but then again if we only had some cap space to bring him here...

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    Guard Jamal Crawford's deal done and he will get a four-year, $25 million deal (with bonuses) from Clippers, sources told Yahoo!

    That contract is insane.

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    ...and this is where mid level free agents start getting overpaid. Most of the big fish are spoken for and teams dont want to be left with nothing.

    Expect OJ Mayo to get even more. He's a backup like Crawford but he's much younger.

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    Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
    Guard Jamal Crawford's deal done and he will get a four-year, $25 million deal (with bonuses) from Clippers, sources told Yahoo!

    That contract is insane.
    I'm sure they'll never regret that decision.

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    I think he's a friend of Granger or George, don't remember which one, they worked out together in the summer (could be all 3)
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    So, both Dragic and Lowry are out in Houston, and the sea of free agent point guards is quickly drying up. Is it expected that New York wont match Jeremy Lin, or is there some other option available?
    Ahh -- Ramon Sessions. I completely forgot about him. If Houston can sign him, then a nice move on their part to get a lottery pick (assuming non-lottery protection on the pick) while picking up a comparable replacement talent.


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    I wonder what Mayo's asking price will be, he hasn't specified other than more than MLE money.
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    Yikes, only a first for Lowry? That's a giveaway. Nice trade for the Raptors, who have quietly put together a nice defensive team (Lowry, DeRozan, Fields, Valanciunas), which should benefit Bargnani.

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    So, both Dragic and Lowry are out in Houston, and the sea of free agent point guards is quickly drying up. Is it expected that New York wont match Jeremy Lin, or is there some other option available?
    i don't think there was ever a good chance of NY not matching him, even if they got Nash. Now, that's pretty much unthinkable.

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    Yikes, only a first for Lowry? That's a giveaway. Nice trade for the Raptors, who have quietly put together a nice defensive team (Lowry, DeRozan, Fields, Valanciunas), which should benefit Bargnani.
    and Ross.

    re the deal, lets see the details first. I won't be surprised if Davis or DeRozan is in that deal.

    DeRozan is not a 'nice' defender, btw. Although I guess he's nice for other teams because he doesn't defend.
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    ...and this is where mid level free agents start getting overpaid. Most of the big fish are spoken for and teams dont want to be left with nothing.

    Expect OJ Mayo to get even more. He's a backup like Crawford but he's much younger.
    Good thing that the FO doesn't want to overpay for talent.
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    and Ross.

    re the deal, lets see the details first. I won't be surprised if Davis or DeRozan is in that deal.

    DeRozan is not a 'nice' defender, btw. Although I guess he's nice for other teams because he doesn't defend.
    Never said he was a nice defender, just said they have put together a nice defensive team.

    Looks like Gary Forbes is headed to Houston as part of the deal.

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    Ahh -- Ramon Sessions. I completely forgot about him. If Houston can sign him, then a nice move on their part to get a lottery pick (assuming non-lottery protection on the pick) while picking up a comparable replacement talent.

    Can you do a comparison of Eric Gordon, OJ Mayo, and a potential trade target like Tyreke Evans?

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    Are the Rockets in rebuild mode now with Lowry out the door? How about Scola?

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    Looks like Gary Forbes is headed to Houston as part of the deal.
    Sounds cheap if that's it. Although I suppose if it's ~top 5 protected, it's fine. In all likelihood they are still a lottery team next year.

    Step 2 - Pau trade? I think the Lakers will look hard at it. Payroll relief + a cheaper starting 4 like Scola or Patterson + some cheap quality depth like Leuer, Royce White, Motiejunas or whomever.
    It makes too much sense.
    And Rockets would still have assets/space to chase Howard.

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    ...and another domino falls.

    BTW, I'm fairly certain "future lottery pick" is not a part of NBA trade language.
    Does this mean the pick is reverse protected. a first round pick protected from 18-30.

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    Are the Rockets in rebuild mode now with Lowry out the door? How about Scola?
    i think they are in their perpetual retool mode. You can't really rebuild around 8 power forwards. (Literally, they have 5 on the roster and 3 more rookie PFs with lottery talent) There will be more trades.

    They'll keep buying low, selling high, hoarding assets, looking for a superstar.

    It just made sense to trade Lowry now.
    He's good, he's underpaid, his value will probably never be higher. Even if he didn't ask for a trade, IMO they would've shopped him this summer.

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    Sounds cheap if that's it. Although I suppose if it's ~top 5 protected, it's fine. In all likelihood they are still a lottery team next year.

    Step 2 - Pau trade? I think the Lakers will look hard at it. Payroll relief + a cheaper starting 4 like Scola or Patterson + some cheap quality depth like Leuer, Royce White, Motiejunas or whomever.
    It makes too much sense.
    And Rockets would still have assets/space to chase Howard.
    Be nice to facilitate and pick up Royce White and other pieces.
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    Never said he was a nice defender, just said they have put together a nice defensive team.

    Looks like Gary Forbes is headed to Houston as part of the deal.

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    Rockets will get Gary Forbes in the trade, a source said, but Rockets will deal Lowry for pick. Exact details of protection still discussed

    Geez, I posted trading the 013 1st and cap for Lowry the other day and got ridiculed. Forbes and a 1st, OMG(oh my gosh) I sure hope by letting Lowry go Houston can sign Linsanity, or they might have to go get Brooks again. The PG action has just been unreal.

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    Geez, I posted trading the 013 1st and cap for Lowry the other day and got ridiculed. Forbes and a 1st, OMG(oh my gosh) I sure hope by letting Lowry go Houston can sign Linsanity, or they might have to go get Brooks again. The PG action has just been unreal.
    I'd bet our 2013 1st is not as valued as the the Raptors'.

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    http://www.hoopsworld.com/houston-ro...rezy-continues
    Houston Rockets Trade Frezy Continues

    The Houston Rockets and the Toronto Raptors have been talking about point guard Kyle Lowry for quite some time, initially revolving around Toronto’s eighth pick in last week’s NBA draft. When the Raptors got the sense that they might be able to land Steve Nash in free agency they decided to keep the pick and hold off on a trade for Lowry.

    The news that Steve Nash was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers put the Raptors back in the market for an upgrade at point guard, and it didn’t take long for them to resume talks with Houston, where the Rockets were looking to shed contract dollars.

    According to multiple reports, the Rockets have done just that, sending Lowry to the Raptors in a deal that returns a lottery-protected first round pick, and Gary Forbes is also said to be part of the package coming over from the Raptors.

    Meanwhile, the Rockets are working on two more deals, one being an offer sheet for New York Knicks restricted free agent Jeremy Lin and the other being a five-year, $32 million offer for Courtney Lee. The Rockets rescinded their qualifying offer and will now seemingly be forced to renounce their rights to Lee in order to get under the salary cap by the $16.1 million they will need to enable the Omer Asik offer sheet as well as the Jeremy Lin offer sheet, said to be worth 8.36 million and 7.75 million average over three years, respectively.

    The Rockets currently have a cap hold of $6.6 million on Lee that only comes off the books if Houston renounces his rights.

    Of course, there’s no guarantee that Lee will wait around to accept Houston’s offer, and if they renounce his rights and he gets a better offer elsewhere the Rockets have no control over the situation. That’s a risk the Rockets are willing to take as they continue what has been an active summer, to say the least.


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    I'd bet our 2013 1st is not as valued as the the Raptors'.
    We could have dangled a 2nd and Stanko.
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    the other being a five-year, $32 million offer for Courtney Lee.

    Wow 5 years 32 milion. Free Agency isn't free.

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