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    Clippers signed Matt Barnes. Sorry if this is the wrong thread for news.
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    I think what he meant was that Harden basically choked in any big moments during the finals, whereas Manu has always been known to step up and perform within those moments.
    Ginobili 'choked' in his first NBA finals too. I don't think it's fair to write Harden off based on 3 bad finals games. It's not like the other 2 games or the conf finals vs. the Spurs had less "big moments". He's not the first great player to have poor games in the finals.

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    It was Harden's first trip to the finals.No experience whatsoever from such games and he'still 23 years old.Calling him choker and comparing him to Manu is really harsh and kinda unfair(yet),especially since we have already seen that he's talented enough.Give him a break,will ya?



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    Ginobili 'choked' in his first NBA finals too. I don't think it's fair to write Harden off based on 3 bad finals games. It's not like the other 2 games or the conf finals vs. the Spurs had less "big moments". He's not the first great player to have poor games in the finals.
    I think I need to make myself more clear. I'm not saying that Harden isn't a very good player, im just saying he's not Manu Ginobili yet. Just as some say it's unfair to judge him by one finals appearance, I think it downplays manu's talents and status in the game by calling Harden the next Manu. Yes they're similar but I'm not ready to make comparisons to a borderline HOF'er after 2 decent seasons and one really good one.

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    I think I need to make myself more clear. I'm not saying that Harden isn't a very good player, im just saying he's not Manu Ginobili yet. Just as some say it's unfair to judge him by one finals appearance, I think it downplays manu's talents and status in the game by calling Harden the next Manu. Yes they're similar but I'm not ready to make comparisons to a borderline HOF'er after 2 decent seasons and one really good one.
    yep, fair enough.

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    Adam Morrison to the Blazers.

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    Adam Morrison to the Blazers.

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    good luck to him. would have been nice if the Pacers gave him a try though, but they don't need another SF.
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    good luck to him. would have been nice if the Pacers gave him a try though, but they don't need another SF.
    he sucks though

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    Adam Morrison to the Blazers.

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    Adam Morrison > Barbosa ......

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...th-the-pistons

    Report: Terrence Williams signs one-year deal with the Pistons

    Another year, another team for Terrence Williams.


    According to Yahoo Sports, Williams has signed a one-year conditional contract with the Detroit Pistons. (A conditional contract means it becomes guaranteed after a certain point.) For Williams, this will be his fifth team in four years.


    Williams, 25, was picked 11th overall by the Nets in 2009 but was a major disappointment. He clashed with the coaches, the front office, with teammates and just about everyone in between. At one point, he was even sent down to the D-League for a stretch.


    In his three NBA seasons, Williams has only appeared in 129 games because of off-court issues. He spent last season with the Sacramento Kings, averaging 8.8 points, 4.1 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game.


    The Pistons currently have 15 players under contract, but if Williams impresses, he could find a place on the team. There's a need at his position of shooting guard and because of his versatility and skill set, he's going to get a look.



    I really like his skillset so I'm looking forward to checking him out if he makes the team. (Side note: His attitude really must be terrible if the likes of Sam Young, Ben Hansbrough, Marquis Daniels, and Alando Tucker are getting workouts and he can't get anyone but Detroit to return his calls. Shame.)

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    is there a general NBA thread for new season? there used to be one last season iirc.

    anyway, posting here:

    some of you were very interested in Royce White at our pick (myself included). Apparently, his anxiety issues forced a no-show for the Rockets training camp. The quotes below are interesting, he doesn't seem to be thinking rationally atm. a shame, a very interesting prospect.


    "We are trying to figure out a plan for me to be healthy and successful long-term," White said. "It's not really anything that's going on right now. It's more of trying to take a pro-active approach and trying to put together a solid plan.

    "It is definitely linked with my anxiety sure, but it's not so much as far as my anxiety now. Basically what happened was my doctor, we discussed it, and it was decided the way the plan was now just wasn't logistically healthy.

    "So what can we do strategically to try and improve the chances of everybody being successful in this situation, my success and the Rockets success? If I fail then that's not good for them either, because it's an investment."

    Read more: http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/19...#ixzz28BMuKqWa
    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/19...-training-camp

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    is there a general NBA thread for new season? there used to be one last season iirc.

    anyway, posting here:

    some of you were very interested in Royce White at our pick (myself included). Apparently, his anxiety issues forced a no-show for the Rockets training camp. The quotes below are interesting, he doesn't seem to be thinking rationally atm. a shame, a very interesting prospect.



    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/19...-training-camp
    I still plan on making a trade for Royce White in 2K13. haha Tyler for Royce? We'll see.
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    is there a general NBA thread for new season? there used to be one last season iirc.
    Kstat will start one when the time is just right. Unless, of course, he sees his shadow. Then we're in for six more weeks of off-season.

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    Adam Morrison > Barbosa ......
    ummm what? the dude couldn't even get on an NBA roster last year and when he was the previous years he never played. You can't be serious.

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    ummm what? the dude couldn't even get on an NBA roster last year and when he was the previous years he never played. You can't be serious.
    I was been sarcastic, many here think that just because a player gets a contract in the NBA he is better than a player that is not in the NBA.

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    I was been sarcastic, many here think that just because a player gets a contract in the NBA he is better than a player that is not in the NBA.
    Actually, that was YOUR logic. You just didn't like it when it was used against you.

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    Around draft time the anxiety stuff with Royce White didn't really make me nervous, it was all his other interests and seeming lack of focus on basketball. The way he left Minnesota really turned me off.

    Then I watched that Grantland video and the anxiety stuff is way worse than I thought. He went and hid in Hoiberg's office at a year end awards banquet thing. Obviously every person there loved the guy and he still couldn't face them. The guy's talented and I really hope he can get past it, but I'm glad we didn't draft him.

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    Actually, that was YOUR logic. You just didn't like it when it was used against you.
    That wasn't my logic and you know that, been out of the NBA because you have better choices is way different than been out of the NBA because nobody wants you, not only that but you get cut from the two European teams that gave you an opportunity and ended up in the Dleague, so nope that wasn't my logic.

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    That wasn't my logic and you know that, been out of the NBA because you have better choices is way different than been out of the NBA because nobody wants you, not only that but you get cut from the two European teams that gave you an opportunity and ended up in the Dleague, so nope that wasn't my logic.
    So, how do you know it's because he has 'better options', and if so why hasn't he already signed these better options? You don't know that, or why. That's just what you want to believe. Yet, you'll be the first guy complaining that other people can't read minds when they say something like this.

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    So, how do you know it's because he has 'better options', and if so why hasn't he already signed these better options? You don't know that, or why. That's just what you want to believe. Yet, you'll be the first guy complaining that other people can't read minds when they say something like this.
    The Brazilian league starts in november not reason for him not to take his time.

    http://lnb.com.br/campeonato/


    And here is how I know that he has other choices I'm not reading minds or making s*** up like some people.

    Barbosa says later in the interview he would play for the veteran minimum on a contender. If he can’t land an NBA gig, he says he would want to play in Brazil this season. But his contract would be such that an NBA team could call him up.
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...andro-barbosa/
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    I'm surprised I haven't heard any rumors about Houston. They have way too many PFs.

    Anyone have any rumors on Houston?
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    First off, information from him or his agent needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You can use (mis)information to try to lobby teams for any kind of a better contract, or a contract to begin with. Also, yes there's plenty of reason for him to not take his time. NBA rosters are set, and camps are started. Once rosters are set, teams are going to be more reluctant to make an addition to the rotation unless they're desperate with injuries.

    However at the same time he says he will play for a contender in the NBA for the minimum, and he still isn't signed. So even if you want to take his word for it then guess what? He's saying he isn't wanted. Not better options.

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    I'm surprised I haven't heard any rumors about Houston. They have way too many PFs.

    Anyone have any rumors on Houston?
    true. NBDL i guess. their training camp is taking place in the Rio Grande Valley Vipers arena btw, so they can just drop a couple power forwards there right away

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    It's still offseason until preseason is over. I don't limit when the new season thread gets cluttered up before the real games even start.

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    I'm surprised I haven't heard any rumors about Houston. They have way too many PFs.

    Anyone have any rumors on Houston?
    No rumors but...

    http://rockets.clutchfans.net/3181/h...-camp-edition/

    Rockets have 20 players currently and need to cut down to 15 by start of the regular season.

    Of the guys who are considered possible cuts, JaJuan Johnson is the most intriguing to me. He'd fill in nicely as backup PF if Hans continues to struggle.

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