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    I don't see where the Suns made out like a bandit. Nice deal for the Suns shedding Warrick's contract, but I'd much prefer Lopez over Wes Johnson. The 1st will probably be so protected the Suns won't get to use for years.
    They already have a starting caliber center in Gortat so it's not like they can't afford to lose Lopez. They can find a replacement backup center somehow. Plus, Lopez is due for a new deal so not only would they be off the hook for that, but they'd also get out of Warrick's deal. Sure, Johnson's nothing special, but why not bring him in? May be a better fit in PHX, who knows. And no matter what kind of 1st it is, it's an asset that PHX will get to have in its back pocket.

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    If the Timberwolves sign Kirilenko, they'll have 11 white players to 4 black players. That's crazy.

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    If the Timberwolves sign Kirilenko, they'll have 11 white players to 4 black players. That's crazy.
    Since no one is asking.....why would that be crazy?
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    Probably because they have a team that's about 75% white in a league that's 80% black. That's an anomaly.

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    As I watched Calderon get beet off the dribble by everyone he guarded today, I hope he was laying low, for I have no desire to see that matador on the Pacers if that is all he has.

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    As I watched Calderon get beet off the dribble by everyone he guarded today,
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    @WojYahooNBA: Hornets, Suns, Wolves are nearing agreement on a 3-way deal that would send Robin Lopez to the Hornets in a sign-and-trade, sources tell Y!


    @WojYahooNBA: Along with Lopez, Suns would send Hakim Warrick to Hornets. Minny would send Wesley Johnson and a 1st round pick to the Suns, sources say.

    @WojYahooNBA: For Wolves, deal clears cap space and apparently is a prelude to another potential signing or deal, sources say.

    @WojYahooNBA: Several league executives believe Minnesota is pursuing free agent Andrei Kirilenko. He's no longer considering Brooklyn, sources say.
    Shows how bad Wesley Johnson is, that they have to dump a player they picked 4th in a draft two years ago, AND a 1st round pick just for cap space, which I think is a big mistake getting Kirilenko. If it were the AK 47 of 5 years ago it would be ok, but not so much now.

    The Suns are only getting the best of this deal cause they get a 1st round pick, everyone getting meh players otherwise. It's kind of a filter of crap each team doesn't really want.
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    I would not mind getting Wes and a first. Oh well.
    Good deal for the Suns. Wes maybe just needed a change of scenery.
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    @JerryZgoda: Per @WojYahooNBA earlier tweets, league sources confirm Wolves are targeting Kirilenko, perhaps at $9M a season for at least 2 years
    9 million for EACH season, wow.

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    If the Timberwolves sign Kirilenko, they'll have 11 white players to 4 black players. That's crazy.

    Why is that relevant??

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    I would not mind getting Wes and a first. Oh well.
    Good deal for the Suns. Wes maybe just needed a change of scenery.
    Minnesota drafting Wes Johnson over Demarcus Cousins was the worst draft day blunder in the past 3 seasons.
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    From a pure statistical perspective, the chances are approximately 5 in a million.
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    They already have a starting caliber center in Gortat so it's not like they can't afford to lose Lopez. They can find a replacement backup center somehow. Plus, Lopez is due for a new deal so not only would they be off the hook for that, but they'd also get out of Warrick's deal. Sure, Johnson's nothing special, but why not bring him in? May be a better fit in PHX, who knows. And no matter what kind of 1st it is, it's an asset that PHX will get to have in its back pocket.


    I just don't see where the Suns made out like a bandit. To me Warrick for Johnson... salary wise. Lopez for a protected 1st. To me it's just a nice trade for the Suns.

    It was a nice trade for Minnie too, b/c they get Lopez to b/u Pekovic since they now don't have Darko, Miller, Randolph, Toliver, or Beasley.

    Both the Suns and T-Wolves have really turned their rosters since the end of the season. Both have about 7 players each gone from the year ending roster.

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    Minnesota drafting Wes Johnson over Demarcus Cousins was the worst draft day blunder in the past 3 seasons.


    Is it truly a surprise with Kahn in charge? I'm not sure he made the best choice available back in June.

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    Why is that relevant??
    If 11 of the top 15 British Open finishers were black, people would have the same reaction.

    Just noticing race isn't racist. It's making an effort to understand the world we live in.

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    I just don't see where the Suns made out like a bandit. To me Warrick for Johnson... salary wise. Lopez for a protected 1st. To me it's just a nice trade for the Suns.

    It was a nice trade for Minnie too, b/c they get Lopez to b/u Pekovic since they now don't have Darko, Miller, Randolph, Toliver, or Beasley.

    Both the Suns and T-Wolves have really turned their rosters since the end of the season. Both have about 7 players each gone from the year ending roster.
    The Hornets got Lopez, not Minnesota.

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    If 11 of the top 15 British Open finishers were black, people would have the same reaction.

    Just noticing race isn't racist. It's making an effort to understand the world we live in.
    I personally don't need someone pointing out how many white vs black players are on a team. I, like 99.99% of the people who follow NBA BB, know that 70-80% of the NBA players aren't white, so I see no relevance in it being pointed out a team has x amount of a particular race on a team. I'm not sure how many white players the Pacers have on the team as I don't look at their race I look at them as BB players... as everyone should!

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    The Hornets got Lopez, not Minnesota.

    LOL! DUH, and I'm always the one b******* to myself about others lack of reading comprehension!!!

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    I personally don't need someone pointing out how many white vs black players are on a team. I, like 99.99% of the people who follow NBA BB, know that 70-80% of the NBA players aren't white, so I see no relevance in it being pointed out a team has x amount of a particular race on a team. I'm not sure how many white players the Pacers have on the team as I don't look at their race I look at them as BB players... as everyone should!
    Dude, shut up... You just looked at the race by putting a percentage with it. I, personally, don't need someone pointing out someone else pointing out how many white vs black players are on a team.

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    @JerryZgoda: Per @WojYahooNBA earlier tweets, league sources confirm Wolves are targeting Kirilenko, perhaps at $9M a season for at least 2 years
    wow, what a mistake... Kahn has no idea what he's doing. I thought the reason AK wasn't signed by anyone last summer was because he is over the hill and lost a step... why 9 mil? what is that going to prove?

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    Since no one is asking.....why would that be crazy?
    I think their breaking a by-law or something.

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    Minnesota drafting Wes Johnson over Demarcus Cousins was the worst draft day blunder in the past 3 seasons.
    you're probably correct. But Cousins still has that aspect to his personality. There is a chance that he could melt down at any moment. If you were the Kings, would you give this guy $50M/4yrs? I know they have to, but I bet they seriously think about it.

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    So Minnesota lost 2 high lotto picks - Flynn (#6 in 2009) and Wes Johnson (#4 in 2010), gone for peanuts. And yet Minnesota is actually a vastly improved team over the last few years. Guess high lotto picks aren't the be-all and end-all after all

    Similar argument could be made for Thabeet, or even Darko - high profile lotto busts who didn't materially influence their team's fortunes.

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    I personally don't need someone pointing out how many white vs black players are on a team. I, like 99.99% of the people who follow NBA BB, know that 70-80% of the NBA players aren't white, so I see no relevance in it being pointed out a team has x amount of a particular race on a team. I'm not sure how many white players the Pacers have on the team as I don't look at their race I look at them as BB players... as everyone should!
    Exactly, that's you personally. I don't think the person pointing it out was directing it toward you. You don't have an interest in it, that's cool. But some of us do.

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    So Minnesota lost 2 high lotto picks - Flynn (#6 in 2009) and Wes Johnson (#4 in 2010), gone for peanuts. And yet Minnesota is actually a vastly improved team over the last few years. Guess high lotto picks aren't the be-all and end-all after all
    I think it's more that they had such a high volume of lottery picks, they were bound to hit one or two eventually.

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