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    you mean the Knicks!
    Technically, the Rockets ( if the Knicks don't match...yes, unlikely )....but yes...ultimately the Knicks
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    Barb_IndySports ‏@Barb_IndySports

    @ChrisDenari to summarize, Coach Vogel told me after the Hibbert/Hill presser that 1) Lou is gone 2) Tyler staying 3) Barbosa staying.
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    Oops! And Coach said Barbosa's staying too.
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    Oh yeah, and Coach said Tyler staying.
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    News or not? Coach Vogel told me this afternoon that Lou won't be back. Been away from Twitter for 12+ hours. Lots to catch up on....
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    well thats interesting. Didn't expect that.

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    Kinda sorta makes sense. Barbosa backs up the 2, green backs up the 3.

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    Wow. That's pretty awesome actually. Vogel should have plenty of toys to make matchups and lineup changes.

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    I wasn't expecting Barbosa back, but I imagine he'll come relatively cheaply. Guess this means less minutes for Lance?

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    Barbosa staying is a pretty strong indicator the front office isn't expecting anything from Lance next year.

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    Rats i was hoping we would let Leandro "Blackhole" Barbosa go

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    How is Barbosa staying? can we offer him anything? and it makes sense because we need a 2 badly.

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    How is Barbosa staying? can we offer him anything?
    i suppose we used the rest of cap instead of bidding it on amnestied guys.
    We also have a 2.5 mil exception, but I'd assume we kept that.

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    Hansbrough is gonna be suited up on the sideline. Would rather have Lance playing than Barbosa, but you can never have too many capable backups. Augustin, Barbosa, Lance, Green, Mahinmi/Plumlee is probably better than Charlotte's starting 5 last year, lol.

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    I'll believe Barbosa's staying when I see it

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    This is confusing, did Denari say this? I don't see it on his twitter feed.

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    This is confusing, did Denari say this? I don't see it on his twitter feed.
    It's a woman in Area 55, she apparently talked to Vogel.

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    It's a woman in Area 55, she apparently talked to Vogel.
    Not apparently. I was at the presser itself. This did happen. I just dont see how we can keep Barbosa unless he took the MLE.
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    Not apparently. I was at the presser itself. This did happen. I just dont see how we can keep Barbosa unless he took the MLE.
    Did he say it in a private conversation that you, him and Barb had? Was it a Q & A session. What were the circumstances, sorry, not doubting, but that kinda makes it more understandable.

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    Not apparently. I was at the presser itself. This did happen. I just dont see how we can keep Barbosa unless he took the MLE.
    I dont believe we ever renounced his rights did we? If not...then it doesnt matter...

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    I wasn't expecting Barbosa back, but I imagine he'll come relatively cheaply. Guess this means less minutes for Lance?
    there would be no minutes for Lance. This is what I didn't want. I wanted Lance to get some minimal but consistent minutes. With Barbosa staying...essentially paying him to stay when IMHO he didn't have to...he's just another Player to compete with when it comes to the 5 to 10 mpg at the wing rotation that is left after the rest of the Wings play.
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    Did he say it in a private conversation that you, him and Barb had? Was it a Q & A session. What were the circumstances, sorry, not doubting, but that kinda makes it more understandable.
    I wasn't in the convo, but I saw it happening.
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    I dont believe we ever renounced his rights did we? If not...then it doesnt matter...
    we aren't using his Bird rights. if we did, we wouldn't be able to bring Green and Augustin.

    we used either the remainder of our cap, i.e. ~5 mil at most.
    or the 2.5 mil 'room' exception.
    I'd guess the former. If this was agreed upon by the time of the presser, there's no point for them to use the exception.

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    Korver is going to Atlanta. That's good for us because he lit up the Pacers anytime we played Chicago.

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    Besides the Heat series, I really like Leandro, maybe with the new guys on the bench if he's not hot, you sit him quicker.

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    I'll believe Barbosa's staying when I see it
    Ya it makes zero sense. The Sherdian article says we will give Lance every chance to show he belongs this year(I would guess he will get major pt like 2nd wing off the bench PT). I would much rather sign a guy like Ronnie Brewer than Barbosa the dude doesn't defend we need a guy who defends if we are gonna add another wing IMO.

    EDIT: I guess he would be ok if he accepted that role of 3rd wing off the bench(I dont see him doing that)

    I still think OJ will be a rotation player next year if we don't add a guy like Brewer. His lack of separation in college was my only fault on the guy. The OJ we saw in ORL I didn't recognize I think once he gets comfortable he will be fine. But that could take the whole season so I guess getting another wing would make sense for insurance purposes.
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    I know there's a lot of distate towards Barrbosa right now, but I think he was put in a position to fail. This is a guy that's benefited from playing most of his career with one of the best point guards in the game (Nash) and one of the better distributors (Calederon). He's a bit of a shot creator, but he's not a guy that you can just give the ball to and say "here you go, now take on the entire defense and score". I think Vogel put in a very, very tough spot last year and it doesn't surprise me that he fizzled in the playoffs when teams have more time to design defensive schemes. Think about how easy that must've been for Miami. The only thing we ran when Barbosa came into the game was Barbosa clearouts.

    I think he'll be a lot better in our new system if we decide to keep him. If we do, I guarantee we won't be as displeased with him as we were at the end of last season.

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    Why the negative attitude towards Barbosa staying?
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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