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    @ESPNSteinLine: New free-agent development: G Jerryd Bayless has reached an agreement to sign with Memphis. Deal on course to be finalized later Wednesday

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    Hard to call it overpaying when everyone in free agency is getting overpaid. At what point does it become market value not over paid.
    Whenever any of the other 29 teams does it, it is market value. When the Pacers do it, it is overpaying. That's why if they refuse to pay too much they're stupid for not getting the FA, while if they DO pay enough to get someone here they could most assuredly have gotten a far better player for half the cost.

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    Brook Lopez to get the max ..... Yes is overpaying Bills and guess what? They are not the Pacers

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    Whenever any of the other 29 teams does it, it is market value. When the Pacers do it, it is overpaying. That's why if they refuse to pay too much they're stupid for not getting the FA, while if they DO pay enough to get someone here they could most assuredly have gotten a far better player for half the cost.

    You have to remember we have the dumbest FO and the smartest fans of any franchise in the NBA or maybe even the world.
    I'm pretty sure it has been discussed in this thread the many bad deals teams have signed already, I don't get the hiperbole.

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    I came across this piece on the Knicks being interested in D Jones, more of a blog though. It might be something to consider if the team needed the cap space for 2 players instead of 1.

    http://theknickswall.com/2012/07/10/...-trade-happen/

    According to Al Iannazzone, the Knicks are “exploring whether they can get Dahntay Jones from Indiana in a trade.”

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    I'm pretty sure it has been discussed in this thread the many bad deals teams have signed already, I don't get the hiperbole.
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    only a few really good ones Lou Williams Spencer Hawes and Jason Terry are really good IMO along with a few others


    Then there are some that are good for both sides like Beasley, Ryan Anderson JKidd Marcus Camby, Nash, Danny Green(only put him here because RC Buford and pop could proablly find a guy in the SL to replace him at the min if they wanted to but that would be risky) Hibbert (overpaid a lot but you wouldn't let him go really) ect.

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    Jared Jeffries and unguaranteed expiring Dan Gadzurik( who would be waived) for Dahntay Jones saves Pacers 1.5 mil and add a big think I'd do it.

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    Jared Jeffries and unguaranteed expiring Dan Gadzurik( who would be waived) for Dahntay Jones saves Pacers 1.5 mil and add a big think I'd do it.
    Jeffries is a high quality defender who takes a lot of charges. This is a good deal for both teams IMO.

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    Gadzuric was part of the Camby deal

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    the Rockets are looking to cut more salary right now, they aren't going to do that. Maybe after the Bynum/Dwight thing gets settles. But I doubt they have any non-guaranteed contracts when it's done.
    Now if we wanted Scola for cap + Dahntay, I think they'd do it. But that may cause some difficulties in 2 years.

    *edit* i didn't realize you were talking about the Knicks. Yes, both of those guys are with the Rockets now, I believe. Gadzuric certainly.

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    @ESPNSteinLine: If Hornets match PHX offer sheet to Eric Gordon, as they've vowed, desert sources say this is definite: OJ Mayo will be courted hard by Suns

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    Dan Gilbert just needs to give us Varejao for Dahntay's and Tyler's expiring deals. Seriously, there's no reason not to. West gets a big offer after the year, in house replacement on a reasonable deal that does all the things Roy can't defensively.

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    Hold the damn phone.

    Brook Lopez is getting the max? Roy Hibbert was a steal.

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    Hold the damn phone.

    Brook Lopez is getting the max? Roy Hibbert was a steal.
    Honestly, I cant thank Brooklyn enough.

    Suddenly I dont find Roys deal ridiculous at all.

    Thanks Brooklyn for the worst contract of the year so far and making Pacer fans everywhere feel better
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    vnzla81, Varejao is like the only thing we agree on. Ever.

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    Honestly, I cant thank Brooklyn enough.

    Suddenly I dont find Roys deal ridiculous at all.

    Thanks Brooklyn for the worst contract of the year so far and making Pacer fans everywhere feel better
    I think that you need to thank Orlando... If he gets the max, it is to help facilitate the DW12 trade...

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    If Brooklyn's paying a ****ton for Deron Williams, possibly throwing a max deal at Brook Lopez, and/or trying to bring in Howard, how are they going to pay Gerald Green??

    I'm just trying to justify and/or realize any possibility that could cause Green to not stay in Brooklyn. With the talks that NOH will match PHX's offer for EJ, and PHX will in turn campaign hard to bring Mayo in, the only remaining option we considered will be Lee. And if we decide to cash in our chips on Lee, of all players, I hope we can pick up Green to at least pick up the slack left by the hole that would be Mayo.
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    If Brooklyn's paying a ****ton for Deron Williams, possibly throwing a max deal at Brook Lopez, and/or trying to bring in Howard, how are they going to pay Gerald Green??

    I'm just trying to justify and/or realize any possibility that could cause Green to not stay in Brooklyn. With the talks that NOH will match PHX's offer for EJ, and PHX will in turn campaign hard to bring Mayo in, the only remaining option we considered will be Lee. And if we decide to cash in our chips on Lee, of all players, I hope we can pick up Green to at least pick up the slack left by the hole that would be Mayo.
    I think you have more faith in Green than his own mother

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    I came across this piece on the Knicks being interested in D Jones, more of a blog though. It might be something to consider if the team needed the cap space for 2 players instead of 1.

    http://theknickswall.com/2012/07/10/...-trade-happen/

    According to Al Iannazzone, the Knicks are “exploring whether they can get Dahntay Jones from Indiana in a trade.”
    The Knicks HAVE ZERO Assets left.....they literally sent all of their scraps to Houston. Are they able to absorb him outright and send back a TPE?
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    Hold the damn phone.

    Brook Lopez is getting the max? Roy Hibbert was a steal.
    Is he getting a MAX from the Nets or is he waiting to get a MAX from the Magic?

    A MAX from the Nets is way worse than a MAX from another Team.

    My guess is MAX from the Nets
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    That's what I mean by its not over paying its market value. It sucks but what can you do. Teams and fans get desperate to make change and it shows in what the players are getting. Im the biggest sports fan but today's athletes are all over paid. NFL NBA MLB all of them
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    I'd prefer him to Barbosa, but are we sure Green's really going to do much? Why isn't Brooklyn looking at him again? If he's cheap, and he's good, wouldn't he bet near the top of their list since they've spent all that money on the big guns and perhaps Dwight?
    Nets simply can't afford to pay Green. Green was picked up as a FA just last year, so they don't have his Bird rights. Nets also figure to be taxpayers (after absorbing Joe Johnson, and expecting/hoping to absorb Orlando's bad contracts), so they're limited to just one exception, the $3m taxpayer MLE which they've already used on Teletovic. So right now they can only offer Green the vet min, and after Green's performance with the Nets last year, he can probably get more.

    I'm not sure Green could be considered a Barbosa replacement though, he really plays more of a SF game, he's not a quick scoring 2 guard like what we appear to be looking for.

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    Is he getting a MAX from the Nets or is he waiting to get a MAX from the Magic?

    A MAX from the Nets is way worse than a MAX from another Team.

    My guess is MAX from the Nets
    The Nets can offer a 4 year max just like any another team. No one says they HAVE to offer the 5 year max, just as we didn't have to offer Hibbert the 5 year max.

    Anyway, the rumor is that if a Howard deal doesn't go through soon, the Nets will be looking to lock up Brook Lopez for themselves. And if it's at max dollars... let's just say I'd take Hibbert's deal 10 times out of 10.

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    They continue to see if they can use Dan Gadzuric, whose contract is non-guaranteed, in a sign-and-trade. The Knicks are looking at wing players and exploring whether they can get Dahntay Jones from Indiana in a trade, a league source said.

    This is it Gadzuric?? the dude sucks hard i hope we would waive him ASAP

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    They continue to see if they can use Dan Gadzuric, whose contract is non-guaranteed, in a sign-and-trade. The Knicks are looking at wing players and exploring whether they can get Dahntay Jones from Indiana in a trade, a league source said.

    This is it Gadzuric?? the dude sucks hard i hope we would waive him ASAP
    Yes. DAN GADZURIC WOULD BE IT! THE SKY IS FALLING! WE DIDN'T GET LEBRON!

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