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    Everyone else has sure as hell got better

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    how exactly did Boston get better? They lost Allen and Bradely will be out for at least half the season. Sure they brought in Jason Terry, but thats not that big of a move. Pierce and Garnett are both a year older and will have to play an 82 game season this year. Can Garnett really play 82 games at Center?

    Miami is better no doubt, but they were gonna be better than us this season barring us getting Deron Williams.

    Brooklyn are the clear winners of the offseason this year. They are going to be a very good team.

    Also I like how 3 teams are "everyone else"

    Let's not forget the Bulls are going to worse next year. No Derrick Rose, no FA's want to go their because of it. No one else in the central has gotten significantly better to make me worry. Next season, we absolutely should win the division with Rose being out. Even if we do only resign our guys, our team will be improved just due to our guys improving. Roy will build on his all star season, PG should make a big step in his third year, George Hill will be more comfortable in his starting pg role, DC should be more comfortable in his back up pg role, West will be 100% from the start of the season, Danny should be more comfortable in the roster.

    Obviously its not going to be a huge improvement, well it could if PG takes a couple steps forward, but it will be an improvement.

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    Well, in fantasy land where a 1st round pick = nothing, sure...

    I guess we got George Hill for nothing.

    Miles Plumlee pick was a waste of nothing if he sucks.

    Maybe you just need a different team to follow? You seem to be constantly upset or unhappy.

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    I just wish someone explained how front loading is possible under CBA.

    Giving a little (~6 mil) signing bonus before the first year - sure, you can do that. But that's a simple advance payment, it does not affect the cap or make the contract front loaded.
    you are correct. The contract is not 'front loaded'. It is a bonus situation. IIRC, 20% of a contract can be paid early as a bonus. That is 11.6M or so with roy. It appears to be paid over the 1st 2 yrs. but it does not effect the salary cap number.

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    Atlanta got better just by dumping Johnson's contract

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    Atlanta got better just by dumping Johnson's contract
    No they did not J.J is still a hell of a player probably 3 best SG in the NBA.

    You dont get better in the short term by trading a 6 time all star who is still in his prime.

    His contract is awful but he is still very good.

    Really a good trade for both teams.

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    if i were ORL, I'd make the Howard stay. Sign Lopez outright if I really wanted him.

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    you are correct. The contract is not 'front loaded'. It is a bonus situation. IIRC, 20% of a contract can be paid early as a bonus. That is 11.6M or so with roy. It appears to be paid over the 1st 2 yrs. but it does not effect the salary cap number.
    it's up to 10% for rookies, so 5.8-5.9 mil. I think it's paid right away, after signing. I never heard of a "delayed" signing bonus before. E.g., if he signs the contract with us on July 20th, he'd get the full bonus on July 20th (or the earliest possible day). That's my understanding.

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    No they did not J.J is still a hell of a player probably 3 best SG in the NBA.

    You dont get better in the short term by trading a 6 time all star who is still in his prime.

    His contract is awful but he is still very good.

    Really a good trade for both teams.
    I was being facetious

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    A lot of offseason left for us to go before we start evaluating our front office and our offseason. Worst case scenario, we just brought back a young 50 win team. I think we will get a bit better though.

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    Humphries has some leverage he is using to the fullest:

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    Humphries has some leverage he is using to the fullest:

    Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI
    To be clear, I'm told Kris Humphries is only interested in multi-year GUARANTEED deal.
    If Humphries kills this deal, he's a hero.

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    If Humphries kills this deal, he's a hero.
    from most hated to most beloved

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    If Humphries kills this deal, he's a hero.
    I actually want the deal to go through, I'm just sick and tired of this bs.

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    https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/


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    In proposed blockbuster, Orlando would send Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark to Brooklyn, sources tell Y! Sports.





    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA


    In current structure of deal, Orlando gets Brook Lopez, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Luke Walton and 3 or 4 1st rounders, sources tell Y!


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    Refuse to believe 4-team Howard trade rumor since it involves the words "Brook Lopez" and "max deal." No team could possibly be that dumb.



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    Source confirms #Knicks are on verge of acquiring Marcus Camby via sign-and-trade for Toney Douglas, Josh Harrelson, Dan Gadzuric, JJordan.

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    To be clear, I'm told Kris Humphries is only interested in multi-year GUARANTEED deal and a PROMISE that nobody on his new team will ever call him "Mr. Kardashian" even one time
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    Clippers, are you serious? Pacers would rather try to pay Mayo $8M rather than sending a first for a controllable player like MarShon.

    Ugh!!!!!!!

    What is our front office doing?

    A Donnie Walsh Supreme.... overpaying to keep Pacer players and lowballing other teams players.
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    Atlanta got better just by dumping Johnson's contract

    And got rid of Williams.

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    Source confirms #Knicks are on verge of acquiring Marcus Camby via sign-and-trade for Toney Douglas, Josh Harrelson, Dan Gadzuric, JJordan.
    NBA players are not Pokemon Daryl Morey, you don't need to collect them all.

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    Jordan Schultz ‏@206Child
    Source confirms #Knicks are on verge of acquiring Marcus Camby via sign-and-trade for Toney Douglas, Josh Harrelson, Dan Gadzuric, JJordan.

    Does Houston need a b/u PG that bad?

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    That's how the Howard trade should look like according to ESPN, Orlando is getting crap

    http://yfrog.com/9ez4cp
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    Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
    Kris Humphries' agent told SI notion of 1-year deal is "ridiculous." This from same guy whose client is coming off 1-year deal with Nets.

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    Oh, Darko, that is just about it.... Not.......

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
    Marcus Camby has reached agreement on a deal with the Knicks, league sources tell Y! Sports.

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