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    Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
    The level of protection on the pick is a negotiating point. Other teams -- Charlotte, Utah, Minnesota -- may have more valuable extra picks.
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    Nevermind

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    I'm taking any of those picks over the Clippers, obviously

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    If Brooks went to Charlotte he would shoot 50 times a game. Would be like Providence all over again never saw the dude make a legit pass in 10 games of watching.


    But all 3 of those teams would want the same protection.

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    Could be that we offered, but the Eastern teams in this trade would rather not help us and would have Marshon go West instead.
    Instead, send him to a top 6 Team in the West to make them arguably better?
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    Wow, from what Chad Ford is saying the Magic are getting done pretty bad, but I guess atleast they got something, and the Cavs are coming out looking really really good, Humpries some no names, a 1st from the Nets, and cash... and they are not giving up anything but cap... wow...
    Why so SERIOUS

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    4 years, 15 million for Novak is lol bad.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    So we don't have to worry about Orlando sweeping us in the playoffs next year.
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    The Bulls also have an extra first-round pick, from Charlotte, but it's hard to imagine the Bulls helping the Nets get Dwight Howard.


    I dont get this logic the trade is gonna happen regardless. Brooks would be a perfect fit for the Bulls and if I was them I would give up a 1st and a 2nd and cash to get him.
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    So we don't have to worry about Orlando sweeping us in the playoffs next year.
    Everyone else has sure as hell got better

    Boston
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    Everyone else has sure as hell got better

    Boston
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    Miami
    Don't forget the Knicks they got NASH... oh wait...lol
    Why so SERIOUS

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    Proposed Nets-Magic deal: Nets would get Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon & Earl Clark

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    Proposed deal (cont'd): The Clippers would receive MarShon Brooks.

    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed deal (cont'd): The Cavs get Kris Humprhries in a S&T, Quentin Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, a 1st round pick from the Nets & cash

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    Proposed deal (cont'd): Magic picks would be: two 1st rd picks from Nets & a lottery protected 1st from the Clippers.

    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed deal (cont'd): Magic get Brook Lopez in S&T, Luke Walton, Damian James, Sheldon Williams, Armon Johnson and 3 first round picks
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    Everyone else has sure as hell got better

    Boston
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    Miami
    And the Pacers have just resigned 2 guys. Doesn't bode well right now. Haven't solved the bench scoring at all.
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    Instead, send him to a top 6 Team in the West to make them arguably better?
    The clips just signed Crawford, and re-signed Billups who is going to play the 2 because they still have CP3 and Bledsoe. I'm not sure how much time let alone shots Brooks is going to get if he's playing in LA.

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    According to some people it's unrealistic to get a good player for nothing ............................
    Well, in fantasy land where a 1st round pick = nothing, sure...

    I guess we got George Hill for nothing.

    Miles Plumlee pick was a waste of nothing if he sucks.

    Maybe you just need a different team to follow? You seem to be constantly upset or unhappy.

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    I don't think MarShon Brooks is nearly as respected around the league as he is on message boards. My guess is, most GM's view his rookie production as empty stats on a bad team. I mean, sure, he scored 12 points, but it took him 11 shots to do it. That's not exactly impressive.

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    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed Nets-Magic deal: Nets would get Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon & Earl Clark

    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed deal (cont'd): The Clippers would receive MarShon Brooks.

    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed deal (cont'd): The Cavs get Kris Humprhries in a S&T, Quentin Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, a 1st round pick from the Nets & cash

    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed deal (cont'd): Magic picks would be: two 1st rd picks from Nets & a lottery protected 1st from the Clippers.

    Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
    Proposed deal (cont'd): Magic get Brook Lopez in S&T, Luke Walton, Damian James, Sheldon Williams, Armon Johnson and 3 first round picks
    This is pretty easily the biggest NBA trade ever. 13 players, 4 picks.

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    And the Pacers have just resigned 2 guys. Doesn't bode well right now. Haven't solved the bench scoring at all.
    Here is for hoping that Miles helps with that...
    Why so SERIOUS

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    Are we going to do anything jesus everyone else seems to be doing something
    I hear we just agreed to terms with a pretty good starting center! [/half-serious]

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    I'd prefer not to get MarShon Brooks if the price is helping the Nets get Dwight Howard.

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    This is pretty easily the biggest NBA trade ever. 13 players, 4 picks.
    Yeah, I remember the Melo one was a lot of guys as well, but I think some of these guys have to agree to a S&T, they could really frustrate the situation.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    I'd prefer not to get MarShon Brooks if the price is helping the Nets get Dwight Howard.
    They are going to get him no matter what, might as well help your team out in the process...
    Why so SERIOUS

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    I'd prefer not to get MarShon Brooks if the price is helping the Nets get Dwight Howard.
    Don't see how it matters. He's going to go to the Nets regardless of whether the Pacers do nothing or something.
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    Yeah, I remember the Melo one was a lot of guys as well, but I think some of these guys have to agree to a S&T, they could really frustrate the situation.
    Which would be hilarious. Shelden Williams says "screw Orlando" and the whole thing's dead.

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    I don't think MarShon Brooks is nearly as respected around the league as he is on message boards. My guess is, most GM's view his rookie production as empty stats on a bad team. I mean, sure, he scored 12 points, but it took him 11 shots to do it. That's not exactly impressive.
    I agree not a fan of his at all especially coming out of college but getting him and Hump for free I would of been a fan of.


    But no doubt Marshon is one of the most overrated players especially when he came out of the draft everyone calling him Kobe was LOL
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    Here's what I don't understand. 4 years, $58 million is considered the "rookie max," right? But if you can offer a signing bonus on top of that which spreads over the life of the contract and counts against the salary cap, then 4 years, $58 million isn't really the maximum amount that a player can receive, is it?

    I guess the "contract" and the "bonus" are different things. But it's confusing.
    The max amount of money that Roy can get is 13.5, 14.2, 14.8 and 15.4. That is how they came up with the 58. Up to 20% of that may be 'paid early' as a bonus. It does not effect the salary cap number each year, just when roy gets the money.

    for example if the pacers traded roy after two years, his salary cap number would be 14.8 and 15.4. but he would only be paid 11.8 and 12.3. His cap number is larger than his actual salary. The opposite is true for the first two years.

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