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    Without Eric Gordon it may be a bit of a bumpy ride, but let's say they get Gordon.

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    If you have any faith in Marshall and Morris being good then that's not a bad team at all.
    That's what I'm saying. I highly, highly doubt they get Gordon so it's moot, but even if they did, that's what, like a 7th seed maybe? With a lot of cap tied up. Who's rebounding? Who's playing any D besides Gortat and Gordon? The rest of the starters are sieves. It's one thing to have something disastrous happen to your franchise and have your hand forced into salary cap hell, but to actually choose that path? I just don't get it.

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    I'm a huge Roy hibbert fan, but is a max deal really worth it? He has problems with creating his own shot outside of 5 feet, only averages 12.8 points an 9 rebounds per game. Where as Chris kamen averages 15.7 points, 13 boards and 3 blocks per game. Kamen would take less than hibbert for sure, I'm guessing around $10 mill tops maybe per year(seeing how d. West is only at $10 mill per year). That's almost $5 mill less per year than hibbert plus we could sign someone such as OJ Mayo and Green. Both of them off the bench with collison, hamsborough, plumlee and even stephanson would cause problems for other teams 2nd units. Anyone care to voice there opinion about this? I just joined so I decided to start with a bang

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    I'm a huge Roy hibbert fan, but is a max deal really worth it? He has problems with creating his own shot outside of 5 feet, only averages 12.8 points an 9 rebounds per game. Where as Chris kamen averages 15.7 points, 13 boards and 3 blocks per game. Kamen would take less than hibbert for sure, I'm guessing around $10 mill tops maybe per year(seeing how d. West is only at $10 mill per year). That's almost $5 mill less per year than hibbert plus we could sign someone such as OJ Mayo and Green. Both of them off the bench with collison, hamsborough, plumlee and even stephanson would cause problems for other teams 2nd units. Anyone care to voice there opinion about this? I just joined so I decided to start with a bang
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    If we pay our RFA's and go into next season with the essentially the same team, what place do we finish in the east? Both NY teams pass us. Who else?

    I agree with your premise of just re-signing Hibbert and Hill while other teams get better where would the Pacers finish. I don't foresee the Pacers finishing 3rd in the EC or 5th overall again staying with the status quo. Anyone who does is just fooling themselves. It would be great if the younger players would ALL upgrade their games in order to accomplish it, but the odds of that happening isn't great.

    The Pacers finished the 011-012 season with a record of 42-24 with a winning % of .636. In order to match that % in a 82 game season, the Pacers would have to win 52 games. That meams having a 52-30 record with

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    I just don't see it happing. TPTB have to strengthen the b/u PF and Center spots. They have to find a scorer off the bench who can create his own shot. It would be nice to find a b/u to Granger as well. Right now, the front line is extremely weak, and has to be strengthened. You can't go into the season with Hans, Pendergraph, and Plumlee as your b/u's. It just won't work! Bird found that out last year when Foster couldn't produce as he was counting on.

    Bottom line is TPTB had better be figuring out how to get some QUALITY players for the bench. I don't mean journeymen Solo type players either. Players that can come in and produce. Ones that can start if necessary in case of injuries.

    A few possibilites:

    Marresse Speights
    Jason Thompson
    Jordan Hill
    Carl Landry... costly

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    Rudy Fernandez leaving the NBA, signs a 3 year deal with Real Madrid.

    I'm not surprised at all. He never felt comfortable where he could play to his potential in the NBA.

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    LoL

    Your opinion is duely noted. It was laughs like this when I suggested a few years ago to pick Gerald Green up. How did it work out for the Nets after they picked him up this past season? Practically, everyday he was in the "other NBA players" thread with his accomplishments. I'd have NO problem with Green being picked up by the Pacers as a b/u to Granger.

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    I'm a huge Roy hibbert fan, but is a max deal really worth it? He has problems with creating his own shot outside of 5 feet, only averages 12.8 points an 9 rebounds per game. Where as Chris kamen averages 15.7 points, 13 boards and 3 blocks per game. Kamen would take less than hibbert for sure, I'm guessing around $10 mill tops maybe per year(seeing how d. West is only at $10 mill per year). That's almost $5 mill less per year than hibbert plus we could sign someone such as OJ Mayo and Green. Both of them off the bench with collison, hamsborough, plumlee and even stephanson would cause problems for other teams 2nd units. Anyone care to voice there opinion about this? I just joined so I decided to start with a bang
    The thing is, if we wanted to, we could sign OJ Mayo and Gerald Green while keeping Roy. There is really no logical reason to not match him, unless Donnie just doesn't want to for some ****ing reason.

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    The thing is, if we wanted to, we could sign OJ Mayo and Gerald Green while keeping Roy. There is really no logical reason to not match him, unless Donnie just doesn't want to for some ****ing reason.
    I just want some news! We were linked with pretty much everyone, but now we haven't heard anything for days except that we decided to overpay Hill.

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    ...in other words, he couldn't find another starting gig.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    ...in other words, he couldn't find another starting gig.
    Is it that tough to believe what he said all along, that he wanted to stay with Orlando no matter what?

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    Is it that tough to believe what he said all along, that he wanted to stay with Orlando no matter what?
    Yes.
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    Absolutely. That franchise is a mess and it isn't getting better anytime soon.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    The #Knicks will be acquiring Raymond Felton, source says. They have a deal in the works as we speak. Ray Allen will sign with #Heat.

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    Good for felton. I get the impression ray Allen just wants to stick it to Boston

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    Evan Massey ‏@EMasseyReport
    The #Knicks will be acquiring Raymond Felton, source says. They have a deal in the works as we speak. Ray Allen will sign with #Heat.
    so do you think NY still matches any offer given to Lin?

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    You think they only need one point guard?

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    I'd be interested in seeing what Portland gets in return, how it impacts them financially.

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    Evan Massey ‏@EMasseyReport
    The #Knicks will be acquiring Raymond Felton, source says. They have a deal in the works as we speak. Ray Allen will sign with #Heat.
    Is this guy credible? Haven't heard of him. I thought Allen was just visiting Miami today. Did he already visit the Clippers too?

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    ROFL... even the second tier guys for a big part seem to be getting scooped up by the big market and superteams. I hope we keep Hill and particularly Roy and our move(s) come out of leftfield and is a good one, not some Johnny Flynn or Matt Carroll-level player(s)...
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    Is this guy credible? Haven't heard of him. I thought Allen was just visiting Miami today. Did he already visit the Clippers too?
    I thought Allen was going to the Heat as soon as I saw this tweet last night....

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    so do you think NY still matches any offer given to Lin?


    NO. They aren't going to match Houston's offer. OTOHl, with Jimmy Boy Dolan in charge my statement might not be correct.

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    You think they only need one point guard?

    They don't need Linsanity at the price Houston is offering.

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    I'm a huge Roy hibbert fan, but is a max deal really worth it? He has problems with creating his own shot outside of 5 feet, only averages 12.8 points an 9 rebounds per game. Where as Chris kamen averages 15.7 points, 13 boards and 3 blocks per game. Kamen would take less than hibbert for sure, I'm guessing around $10 mill tops maybe per year(seeing how d. West is only at $10 mill per year). That's almost $5 mill less per year than hibbert plus we could sign someone such as OJ Mayo and Green. Both of them off the bench with collison, hamsborough, plumlee and even stephanson would cause problems for other teams 2nd units. Anyone care to voice there opinion about this? I just joined so I decided to start with a bang
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    Mike Wells:@ToneZone5: Pacers get Mayo, or Courtney Lee? or neither” (Mayo is clear No. 1 choice for Indy) about 9 minutes ago

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