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    Former Baltimore coach Brian Billick says Andrew Luck "will struggle like Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman did in their rookie years. Aikman and Manning had a combined record of 3-24 as rookies. Both of them were on drafted to better teams than the one Luck is going to."

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    Former Baltimore coach Brian Billick says Andrew Luck "will struggle like Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman did in their rookie years. Aikman and Manning had a combined record of 3-24 as rookies. Both of them were on drafted to better teams than the one Luck is going to."
    This is what I was saying on another thread. This Colts team is not even close to being as good at the Aikman and Manning teams they joined in their first year. I have this bad feeling about Luck. I don't think he gets rid of the ball fast enough to avoid a lot of sacks. I feel about the same about him as I did Jemarkus Russell and David Carr........ I think he has "BUST" written all over him and I don't think that Washington would trade RG3 for Luck even up. I think there are other teams that feel that way too. This coach and general manager have no experience at this level and I am dubious that all they are doing is kissing Jimmie's behind and doing what he wants and that is a major screw-up waiting to happen.....

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    This is what I was saying on another thread. This Colts team is not even close to being as good at the Aikman and Manning teams they joined in their first year. I have this bad feeling about Luck. I don't think he gets rid of the ball fast enough to avoid a lot of sacks. I feel about the same about him as I did Jemarkus Russell and David Carr........ I think he has "BUST" written all over him and I don't think that Washington would trade RG3 for Luck even up. I think there are other teams that feel that way too. This coach and general manager have no experience at this level and I am dubious that all they are doing is kissing Jimmie's behind and doing what he wants and that is a major screw-up waiting to happen.....
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    Default Re: I don't expect any of the folks wearing rose colored glasses to believe me, but....

    I don't know a Colts fan who would object to the notion of the team struggling next year.

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    I don't know a Colts fan who would object to the notion of the team struggling next year.
    You are kidding, of course. There are some who post here who think they will be 8-8.......... they will win the number one pick two years in a row. I wonder if they will be taking a QB again??

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    In comparison to that Indy team of 1998 I would disagree....he has Wayne and some defensive end talent At the least..

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    In comparison to that Indy team of 1998 I would disagree....he has Wayne and some defensive end talent At the least..
    Wayne couldn't get a contract with another team. That Indy team in 1998 had Marvin Harrison and Marshall Falk. This team isn't close. The defensive end talent we have is negated by the fact we are going to play a 3-4 and we do not have a nose tackle.........

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    Wayne couldn't get a contract with another team.
    You assume far, far too much.

    I would guess Luck struggles like Peyton as a rookie too. Most NFL QB's wish they could struggle to 3,700 yards and 26 TD's.

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    Wayne couldn't get a contract with another team. That Indy team in 1998 had Marvin Harrison and Marshall Falk. This team isn't close. The defensive end talent we have is negated by the fact we are going to play a 3-4 and we do not have a nose tackle.........
    Wayne had a larger contract offer from the Patriots and turned it down to stay with the Colts.

    The Colts do have a nose tackle and the draft is barely underway.

    How many times do I have to call out your BLATANT lies and moronic assertions before it starts to sink in that you have no ****ing clue what you are talking about?

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    Wayne had a larger contract offer from the Patriots and turned it down to stay with the Colts.

    The Colts do have a nose tackle and the draft is barely underway.

    How many times do I have to call out your BLATANT lies and moronic assertions before it starts to sink in that you have no ****ing clue what you are talking about?
    First, my posts were before the draft and they did NOT have a nose tackle. Now they have drafted a player who MAY be a nose tackle.

    Show me where NE ever made an offer to Wayne. There was discussion on blogs about it but I don't believe any offer was ever made and I will admit to an error, not a lie, if one ever was.

    Calling a poster a liar should be grounds for being banned as a troll. Disagreeing and showing someone is wrong is a different story altogether....

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    First, my posts were before the draft and they did NOT have a nose tackle. Now they have drafted a player who MAY be a nose tackle.
    Luck MAY be a nose tackle?

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    First, my posts were before the draft and they did NOT have a nose tackle. Now they have drafted a player who MAY be a nose tackle.

    Show me where NE ever made an offer to Wayne. There was discussion on blogs about it but I don't believe any offer was ever made and I will admit to an error, not a lie, if one ever was.

    Calling a poster a liar should be grounds for being banned as a troll. Disagreeing and showing someone is wrong is a different story altogether....
    Reggie Wayne said so himself that he had an offer from New England. The Colts signed Brandon McKinney as a FA from the Ravens. He is a NT.

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    Wayne couldn't get a contract with another team. That Indy team in 1998 had Marvin Harrison and Marshall Falk. This team isn't close. The defensive end talent we have is negated by the fact we are going to play a 3-4 and we do not have a nose tackle.........
    So are you willing to bet your membership on this site that Luck is a bust?

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    So are you willing to bet your membership on this site that Luck is a bust?
    No, but I will bet that RG3 is going to have a better season this coming year. Luck is four or five years away from having enough talent to compete. Washington is much better. I read an article the other day that said the odds were that either Luck or RG3 was going to be a bust. If one of them is a bust, I think it will be Luck.... RG3 is a MUCH better long passer, Luck is a little better at the short game..... Not my words, the words of experts who have watched them both.....

    Besides, it will be five years before we will know if Luck is boom or bust. I may not live that long.....

    But don't get your hopes up.....

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    No, but I will bet that RG3 is going to have a better season this coming year. Luck is four or five years away from having enough talent to compete. Washington is much better. I read an article the other day that said the odds were that either Luck or RG3 was going to be a bust. If one of them is a bust, I think it will be Luck.... RG3 is a MUCH better long passer, Luck is a little better at the short game..... Not my words, the words of experts who have watched them both.....

    Besides, it will be five years before we will know if Luck is boom or bust. I may not live that long.....

    But don't get your hopes up.....
    Can we see quotes and sources that state that RG3 is a "MUCH better long passer?" From what I gathered, they are on par and RG3 typically throws to wide open receivers down field whereas Luck is very good at making tight windows even down field much like another former Colt. :P Everyone that is a realistic Colt's fan knows that this team is very young and very inexperienced. You should not expect anything above 4 wins. We do have a VERY soft schedule though, and I would not be surprised if we wind up with a few more wins. We certainly aren't going to the PLAYOFFS though...Lol. Andrew Luck will certainly struggle, but you are making him out to be the next Blaine Gabert. Sorry, I just don't see him being a Ryan Leaf and neither do the majority of NFL analysts. I call

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    .... RG3 is a MUCH better long passer, Luck is a little better at the short game..... Not my words, the words of experts who have watched them both........
    I think I've pretty much read most of the stuff out there about these 2 guys and I can't recall anyone saying this.

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    I think I've pretty much read most of the stuff out there about these 2 guys and I can't recall anyone saying this.
    I think that the days where a QB is judged solely by a rocket arm are over. Clearly PM hasn't the greatest arm but his quick release, reading defenses, ability to change the play at the line of scrimmage make him one of the greatest of all time. Both Luck and RGIII can throw long. So what?

    Watching PM toy with the defense and use the clock is something you don't get with any other QB.

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    I completly expect Luck to have a bit of a struggle this year. He's a beast but like Peyton he is one to think really deep into strategy... For an inexperienced guy playing against the best/ fastest defenses in the world, he's gonna think he is making a good/smart play, then quickly realize it's a bad decision and is a pick six. There is normally a growing process for guys like him.

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    I completly expect Luck to have a bit of a struggle this year. He's a beast but like Peyton he is one to think really deep into strategy... For an inexperienced guy playing against the best/ fastest defenses in the world, he's gonna think he is making a good/smart play, then quickly realize it's a bad decision and is a pick six. There is normally a growing process for guys like him.
    You are spot on...the Colts news to bean him another weapon in the second round whether it be a tightend or wideout. There is a reason he is the highest rated qb since John elway...

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    Who cares, OlBlu? Everyone knows the 'Skins have a better team right now than the Colts. We've told you this repeatedly. It's highly likely that RG3 will have better stats and more wins this year --- BUT that has nothing to do with him being a better quarterback. The Colts just *started* REBUILDING.

    Can you not post something positive about the team you supposedly "root for"? Exactly what point are you "winning" here?
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    Who cares, OlBlu? Everyone knows the 'Skins have a better team right now than the Colts. We've told you this repeatedly. It's highly likely that RG3 will have better stats and more wins this year --- BUT that has nothing to do with him being a better quarterback. The Colts just *started* REBUILDING.

    Can you not post something positive about the team you supposedly "root for"? Exactly what point are you "winning" here?
    What positive is there really? All of the eggs are in Luck's basket and if he anything less than a star, the Colts will stink for a decade. If he is pretty good, they will still lose for five years.... Why don't the Patriots have these problems? They just keep winning and winning and winning........ Every 15 to 20 years we have a run for a few years and then we go back into rebuild mode. Meanwhile, the cheating Patsies keep winning and winning......

    I guess my football attention the next few years will be in Denver. Perhaps by the time Peyton retires, the Colds will rise to at least being mediocre....


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    What positive is there really? All of the eggs are in Luck's basket and if he anything less than a star, the Colts will stink for a decade. If he is pretty good, they will still lose for five years.... Why don't the Patriots have these problems? They just keep winning and winning and winning........ Every 15 to 20 years we have a run for a few years and then we go back into rebuild mode. Meanwhile, the cheating Patsies keep winning and winning......

    I guess my football attention the next few years will be in Denver. Perhaps by the time Peyton retires, the Colds will rise to at least being mediocre....

    So go follow Peyton to Denver then, you're clearly not a true Colts fan.
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    So go follow Peyton to Denver then, you're clearly not a true Colts fan.
    Well, I have been since the days of Johnny U but when the owner digs a hole that may take a decade to dig out of, it is not easy to stay a fan. I will, of course and I will watch the Colts in the early game and Denver in the later games and all of the national prime time games they are going to appear in......

    Mark my words, in three or four years, Irsay will announce we are going to rebuild again with new management and a new coaching staff......

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    Well, I have been since the days of Johnny U but when the owner digs a hole that may take a decade to dig out of, it is not easy to stay a fan. I will, of course and I will watch the Colts in the early game and Denver in the later games and all of the national prime time games they are going to appear in......

    Mark my words, in three or four years, Irsay will announce we are going to rebuild again with new management and a new coaching staff......
    And mark my words --- halfway through this next season when America finds out just how good Luck is, you won't be found anywhere near these forums to eat your crow.
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    So go follow Peyton to Denver then, you're clearly not a true Colts fan.
    How novel. I'm pretty sur that Peyton probably sucked and was a future bust his rookie season... In OlBlu's eyes anyway.

    Enough is enough... Time for ignore.

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