If you mean top talent at dropping easy passes, sure.
Garcon = #2 receiver that got paid like a #1 receiver. We did the right thing letting that guy walk, it was a horrible offer by the 'Skins and we'd be silly to match it.
I agreed with *all* of their moves --- except Freeney. He's a 19mill cap hit and a DE of his type is not typical in a 3-4... and they are gonna convert him to a linebacker. It's hard to imagine this is going to work. BUT... I had read that the Colts couldn't move him, so they're gonna wait a year and then rework or move him, and when you view it like that, it's a smart thing to do. They are paying him a ton, he's a lockerroom presence and mentor, and so might as well just use him.
Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 04-21-2012 at 09:08 PM.
He was not certainly their #1 receiver. At best he was tied with Reggie Wayne.
I'm just curious, are you a Colts fan? You're awfully pessimistic about them if you are.
So losing a bunch of players that barely contributed last year is going to make us worse?
There's a very slim chance we'll be worse next year but lets just assume that you're right about next year and we finish 0-16. At that point next year, we'll have some good draft picks again, including another #1 pick. Plus from what I've read, Colts will have quite a bit of cap space to be a player in free agency..much more so than they've been this offseason.
Thus, anyone who thinks we'll be that bad for 3-4 years is clearly off their rocker and needs to get some meds pronto.
Last edited by Swingman; 04-21-2012 at 10:36 PM.
All of the while, the hated Patriots will just keep winning and winning like they always do. The reason is they have better management and they don't have to clear out and become the worst team in NFL every so many years. They trim dead weight as they go and they just keep on winning.... The Colts do not have the front office strength to pull that off......... I hate New England but damn they are well run.......
I also disagree that they've made "bad management decisions"... this year. Last 2-3 years? Yes. But not this year with the new front office. They are doing what they need to do.
I suggest you change your outlook, lol... it does no good to be negative. You should know that.
Garcon` and Wayne were virtually even. Only five catches and thirteen yards separated them. I would take Garcon` because I don't think Wayne can get separation and make long pass plays like he used to. Look at the contracts they signed and Wayne had virtually no offers but the Colts..... He can get you ten yards but not thirty or more any longer........ Even with a severe lack of talented receivers, I do not see him getting 100 catches and 1000 yards again...
We know Polian had a record of being a great GM and we know nothing about the new guys. We also know that "Jimmy" is getting more active in decision making and the Colts never thrived until he got out of the way. I expect more serious blunders ahead and taking Luck with the number one is probably the first of many more to come...
well... keep in mind Indy has new management and Irsay gets out of the way and lets the football people operate the team. So just because he let Polian wear out his welcome and leave the team in a mess he's actually doing the right thing now and getting new management and a real coach. And they claim to be on a plan that most in the NFL would agree with- better balance.
With the new faces, changes, and lack of continuity it will be an extra hurdle for next season. It wouldn't surprise me to see next season more about developing the system and evaluating players/positions than eeking out wins. And at worse that means another high draft pick. Luck doesn't have to be a superstar as long as the brass builds a proper team around him. If he is a special QB, so much the better.
Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."
It sounds like you've bailed on your team though. You seem to be more of a fan of Manning and Garcon than the Colts.
Which did you mean?
"Wayne wasn't even close to Garcon
Wayne and Garcon were virtually even"?
I suspected before but now I positively KNOW one of two things. Either you didn't watch the Colts at all last season, or you're just a troll trying to say things you know will stir up a **** storm. I do think you actually watched so my money is on the troll/**** storm theory.
I dare you to give one shred of evidence that suggests Pierre was just killing Wayne for most of the season as you say. You won't be able to because it didn't happen. At no point in the season was Pierre ridiculously far ahead of Wayne in any receiving stat. Acting like Wayne came storming back during meaningless games to overtake Pierre's world beating production is just ridiculous.
Here, I saved everyone the trouble.
After the first five games:
Reggie: 22 catches, 332 yards, 1 TD
Pierre: 19 catches, 420 yards, 4 TD
(Edge to Pierre as he has more yards and TD's at this point, but almost ALL of these numbers came from game 4 & 5)
After the first 10 games:
Reggie: 42 catches, 530 yards, 1 TD
Pierre: 43 catches, 621 yards, 4 TD
(Even as it gets during this stretch, notice their almost identical production during this time when the games "mattered")
After all 16 games:
Reggie: 75 catches, 960 yards, 4 TD
Pierre: 70 catches, 947 yards, 6 TD
(Edge to Reggie as he had a bit more of everything, but again, almost identical production)
Last edited by travmil; 04-22-2012 at 03:28 PM.
It is a fact that Garcon` was much better than Wayne early. Did either player play injured?
There's really no point in trying to prove someone wrong who doesn't care if they're right.
And just for the record, you did say that Wayne wasn't even close to Garcon for most of the season. I put up stats that proved that was nowhere near the reality. Wayne's season was better, and he hung with Garcon throughout. At no point was he far behind Garcon and then played catch up in meaningless games as you tried to allude.
Last edited by travmil; 04-22-2012 at 04:06 PM.