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    Default 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    TAKING OUR TALENTS
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    Jonathan Auping: Superstars Taken Down by Teams

    Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Dwyane Wade, Lebron James and Kobe
    Bryant combined for 134 points last night. They each also went to sleep
    with one more loss than they had when they woke up with yesterday
    morning. They all did their whole “superstar” thing, but it wasn’t enough.
    They ran into three teams likely to make the playoffs that, for what they
    may lack in superstars, make up for with all-around basketball.

    The Houston Rockets beat the Los Angeles Lakers 112-108 and had six
    players score in double figures. The Memphis Grizzlies easily beat the
    Miami Heat 97-82 with an even more impressive seven players score in
    double figures. And of course, the Indiana Pacers outplayed the Oklahoma
    City Thunder by accumulating more rebounds, more assists, more steals,
    fewer turnovers and, in case you didn’t know, more points on their way to
    a 103-98 win.

    I don’t want to generalize too much, but it is easy to see the similarities
    between the Pacers, Rockets and Grizzlies. They don’t rely on anyone;
    they rely on everyone.

    Last night, they all had young point guards who played very well against
    their championship contender foes. Mike Conley had 15 points, 4 assists
    and 3 steals while shooting 63%. Gordon Dragic had 26 points, 11 assists,
    4 rebounds and 3 steals while shooting a respectable 42%. And Darren
    Collison had 11 points and 3 assists while shooting 43% and playing well
    down the stretch. When we hear about the current “Golden Era of Point
    Guards,” we never hear about these three guys. But all three of them are
    young and already doing what they need to do to help lead their team to
    wins.

    But even more than young point guards, all three teams thrived off of
    efficient play from their big men last night. Roy Hibbert set the tone for
    the entire game (despite what SportsCenter’s Top Ten may tell you) with
    his big time double-double of 21 points and 12 rebounds to go along with
    his 50% shooting. Thanks for coming out, Kendrick Perkins. You’re 6 points
    and 7 rebounds were pretty cute, I guess. The Pacers also got an efficient
    14 points from David West.

    Or how about the Rockets’ Luis Scola dropping 25 points off 59% shooting
    on Pau Gasol (who only scored 14)? Pair that with his teammate, the
    ageless one, Marcus Camby, bringing home 12 points and 11 rebounds
    and you have a nightmare for opposing big men. Such a nightmare in fact,
    that Andrew Bynum went ahead and had himself thrown out of the game.
    Yet again. Nice work, Andrew...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s


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    I traveled to Portland a few years ago to spend a long weekend with a friend.
    Portland, if you’re unfamiliar, is like if NPR built a city, which is exactly as
    wonderful and horrifying as it sounds. We didn’t attend a Blazers game while
    we were there—I had just paid to fly 2,100 miles; NBA tickets weren’t
    happening—but Blazers paraphernalia is something you can’t miss in Portland.
    Or at least I couldn’t. As an NBA junkie, I’m sort of preconditioned to spot
    Blazers flags in bar windows, but I suppose you could miss such signage while
    spending hours in the city block-sized Powell’s Books, grabbing a food cart
    burrito downtown, or while resisting the urge to propose to a pretty twenty-
    something in a sundress. (You’re a very attractive city, Portland.) But one of
    the most interesting things about the city of Portland, at least to me, are the
    pockets of direly committed Blazers fans scattered across the city like so
    many snowy clumps of powdered sugar on a piece of artisan french toast.
    (You do breakfast correctly, Portland.)

    Being a fan of a sports team is an identity marker for a lot of people—note
    how many Facebook and Twitter profiles mention a person’s allegiance to a
    specific team—but in Portland, being a Blazers fan is an especially unique
    identity marker because A.) Portland isn’t a sports town in the vein of
    Boston, Cleveland or St. Louis and B.) Portland doesn’t have a professional
    baseball, football, or hockey team. (Here I note the existence and rabid
    fanbase of the Portland Timbers, but being an American soccer fan is an
    identity marker all its own.)

    Being a Blazers fan is, I think, being both a part of the city and apart from
    the city. It’s like being a fan of Z-Ro, but not Jay-Z. Sure, a lot of people
    like Z-Ro—they compose a not-insignificant portion of the rap nerd landscape
    —but it’s not like you could fill Madison Square Garden ten times over with
    Z-Ro fans. To be a Z-Ro or Blazers acolyte is to be part of a sizable
    subculture. Blazers fans are a proud subculture. They rep Portland as
    adamantly as anyone. Their identity is held in being both a minority within
    their city’s larger culture and an advocate of it.

    I’m speaking in broad strokes, and, of course, cities aren’t monoliths. In
    fact, their unmonolithicness is sort of the point of them, but for the
    purposes of not having to describe the idiosyncrasies of every person
    within their borders, we try to define them with a handful of descriptors.
    We peg towns with an identity. Think Pittsburgh and industry, Los
    Angeles and Hollywood, Miami and strip clubs. There are filmmakers in
    Pittsburgh, blue collar workers in Los Angeles, and strippers everywhere,
    but we assign certain traits to cities because it’s convenient shorthand
    and not altogether false. It’s not like Pittsburgh is Mecca for avant-garde
    visual artists, and we’ve just been lying about it for decades.

    I have lived in Chicago, a parochial city in its own right, for the past four
    years. Despite being a city with manifold cuisine, a theater district. a
    phenomenal downtown, myriad diverse neighborhoods—a rich cultural
    identity, is what I mean—some of its residents—natives, mostly; Chicago
    is kind of a midwestern LA in that it houses a lot of transplants—have a
    strange inferiority complex toward the coasts. They bristle at the mention
    of New York or Boston or Los Angeles. No city shall be as great as the one
    that invented the pickle-adornèd hot dog! It’s weird. Because Chicago’s an
    immense, sometimes beguiling city. I sometimes wonder why its residents
    —its advocates, really—can’t be satisfied with being a wonderful town in
    the middle of the country.

    Because there exists no objectively great city or town. Where you live is
    a matter of fit, and where you’re from is a matter of what city your
    mother was in when her water broke. It’s sort of an arranged marriage:
    it will affect you, but you don’t have to develop affection for it. I’m from
    a smallish city in upstate New York, and I kind of hate where I’m from.
    It’s too small for my liking (both in terms of population and worldview)
    and most of its citizens would build a giant metal dome over the town if
    they could. They deserve to suffocate beneath a physical manifestation of
    their own insularity. Most of them, anyway.

    I’m a Cleveland Cavaliers fan because of this town. There were no local
    sports teams, so I decided to root for my cousin’s favorite team. So here
    I am: a Cavs fan, but not a Clevelander. I’m trying to figure out whether
    or not this is important. Ostensibly, it’s not. I’m about as devoted to the
    Cavaliers as any fan of the team, and I’ve been to Cleveland a handful of
    times. If I had grown up on the shores of Lake Erie, I don’t think I would
    be extolling Cleveland’s virtues to non-residents at parties. I’m also just
    not wired that way. Some people like to define themselves by the groups
    they are a part of—fanbases, cities, country clubs—but I’m not one of
    them. One of my favorite things about living in a colossal city is the
    anonymity it affords me. I can go days without being recognized on the
    street by a friend or acquaintance. I can just a be a dude on the corner,
    waiting for the light to change; that recession into nothingness is
    comforting to me.

    But this strong city-team-self triangle—I’m from Cleveland, I love my
    hometown, and I’m a huge Cavaliers fan—is a crucial part of fanhood for
    some people. It’s not something that can be easily dismissed. I’m trying to
    understand it from the outside. Cities—though they’re really just a mass of
    flesh, concrete, and steel—breathe. They are frighteningly organism-like.
    And what better way to celebrate that almost-organism than by watching
    your favorite sports team— ambassadors of your favorite city—assert their
    dominance over...CONTINUE READING AT CAVS THE BLOG
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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    Lester Hudson, who's a prospect I like, is averaging 25 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg over the last 3 games. Of course, those games were against TOR, NJ, and CHA, but hey at least they won 2 of 3. Let's see how he fares against the Pacers.

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    Be honest, you have no idea who that picture is of.

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    This one is already over and it hasn't even started. They've got nothing we can't handle and we've got a lot that they can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermute View Post
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    Lester Hudson, who's a prospect I like, is averaging 25 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg over the last 3 games. Of course, those games were against TOR, NJ, and CHA, but hey at least they won 2 of 3. Let's see how he fares against the Pacers.
    Oh boy, be careful with those stats. Some people around here will want to get rid of Hill and Collison for Lester Hudson.

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    Oh boy, be careful with those stats. Some people around here will want to get rid of Hill and Collison for Lester Hudson.
    Who shoots about as well as Price. Lester is able to get to the line though and hit at a very high %. That's about all he's got going for himself.
    With the #3 pick in the 2015 draft, your Indiana Pacers!

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    Who shoots about as well as Price. Lester is able to get to the line though and hit at a very high %. That's about all he's got going for himself.
    Hey, to Lester's credit he worked his butt of in the offseason, played great in China, and has taken advantage of a situation in Cleveland. He has probably solidified himself as an NBA player and made some money and a roster for next season if nothing else.

    That said, it seems like whenever someone is hot some on this board want to disband key people on our roster to make a move for that player.

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    If there is such a thing as a schedule loss, this is going to be one..A schedule loss for our opponent..
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    No Collison again tonight, obviously we are resting our star.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    All the Pacers do is win win win no matter what

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    Fun fact: Thomas Edison's first motor vehicle, an electric Baker two-seater, was manufactured in Cleveland.

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    Both starting PGs are out. should be an evenly matched game.

    Oh wait..

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    Is this 3 in a row with the gold uniforms?

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    Let's hope we win this. We need this win and Cleveland seems to be in full tank mode so it would benefit them as well. Let's hope we can take care of business.

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    oh god this color combo tonight...

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    Are those a different yellow uni? They look different to me.

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    We are super lazy tonight

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    I hate the gold/yellow uni's, not because the "curse" but because they are ugly!

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    This PG - Hibby play was weird as hell

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    I love the way that our wings are able to score inside the paint.

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    Doesn't look like the Pacers are expending a lot of energy. Hopefully the Cavaliers continue to make it easy on them.

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    Default Re: 4/11/2012 Game Thread #58: Pacers Vs. Cavaliers

    And hopefully they guard 3 point specialists.. didn't even bother.

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    I am guessing that Anthony Parker is going to be tonight's "Linus Kleiza"
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    Looks like it will be a nip and tuck 1st half at minimum unless the bench goes off.
    I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

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    meh, bring on the Playoffs!

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