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  • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

    Originally posted by TheDavisBrothers View Post
    Just because the would need to give 2 1sts doesn't mean they are actually thinking about giving 2
    I agree but IMO there is a team out there who is going to try to clear cap space to sign a Dwill or Howard.


    Ala the Bulls giving Kirk Hindrich and a 1st away to the Wizards a few years ago to try to get Lebron. I just hope we can take advantage.

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    • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

      Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
      Not elaborating on Cavs at moment. But you should be able to figure it out. Working on deal for someone's lottery pick. That's all for now.

      Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
      As I get more sources to confirm, and more confident that reporting it wouldn't mess with potential deal, or players, I'll be more detailed.


      Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
      You guys are cracking me up! Love you, but can't say more. Would be irresponsible. Just know that, yes, Cavs hard at work as deadline looms.
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      • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

        Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
        Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
        Not elaborating on Cavs at moment. But you should be able to figure it out. Working on deal for someone's lottery pick. That's all for now.

        Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
        As I get more sources to confirm, and more confident that reporting it wouldn't mess with potential deal, or players, I'll be more detailed.


        Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
        You guys are cracking me up! Love you, but can't say more. Would be irresponsible. Just know that, yes, Cavs hard at work as deadline looms.

        Maybe trading Antwan's expiring deal for a bad contract and a pick smart trade for a rebuilding team.

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        • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

          Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
          Maybe trading Antwan's expiring deal for a bad contract and a pick smart trade for a rebuilding team.
          Yup, like the BDiddy trade last year. It's a good tactic, as long as the owner is willing to pay. I mean, Dan Gilbert ended up paying something like $29m (the value of Baron's amnestied contract) for Kyrie Irving - and that's pretty much the best case scenario. Not many owners will be willing to pay out that much $$$, and not every lottery pick they buy is bound to turn out so well.

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          • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

            I bet the Pacers are trying to get him again.


            Steve Kyler ‏ @stevekylerNBA
            RT @TheRocketGuy: Well-place front office source says Memphis will not trade Mayo despite multiple offers made . . .



            Retweeted by vnzla81
            2h Bill Ingram ‏ @TheRocketGuy
            Source adds - Grizzlies are looking for a small cap-saving move, but don't seem to be willing to part with Mayo . . .
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            • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

              http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-deadli...d-to-be-traded


              We’re five days away from the 2012 NBA trading deadline. Which players are most likely to be packing their bags within the week?

              Let’s take a look at some of the most discussed players on the trade market going forward and where they may end up:

              Dwight Howard:

              It’s still up in the air as to whether Orlando Magic management is willing to concede Howard will not be returning to Orlando. Before any other trade gets made, teams are looking to see where Howard goes and whether or not that domino will fall — unleashing a barrage of moves around the NBA.

              Easily the best center in the game, it isn’t hard to understand why Howard is the most sought-after player at the deadline. Howard leads the NBA with 15 rebounds per contest, while leading the Magic in points (20.7), steals (1.5), blocks (2.2) to go along with his league-best rebounding total.

              Unless GM Otis Smith and the Magic brass realistically believe they can retain Howard, or at least that the big man will choose not to exercise his player option next season to remain in Orlando for one more year, Orlando must trade Howard. It’s imperative that the Magic get something for the team’s best player rather than risk losing him for nothing in the offseason.

              The time is now to sell high on Howard and the ball is in Orlando’s court to pull the trigger. The New Jersey Nets appear out of the running due to Brook Lopez’s ankle injury but the Houston Rockets, Golden State Warriors and Los Angeles Lakers are all potential trade partners for Orlando.

              The Dallas Mavericks, the other team on Howard’s wish list that includes the Lakers and Nets, don’t have the resources to pursue a trade for Howard.

              Contract Status: Howard is owed $17,885,400 for this season and has a player option for next year at $19,261,200.

              Josh Smith:

              Reports are that the 26-year old Smith has set the stage for his exit from the Atlanta Hawks by demanding a trade. An Atlanta native, Smith has become increasingly unnerved with Hawks’ management, finally culminating in his plea for a trade earlier this week.

              Unfortunately for both Smith and the Hawks, the biggest problem with moving the six-foot-nine forward is that his value has been significantly downgraded because now everyone knows he wants out. The Hawks are immediately at the disadvantage at any bargaining table and might end up keeping the disgruntled Smith simply because they can’t find equal value for him through trade.

              Golden State has had interest in Smith all season and it’s no secret the Hawks have fielded trade proposals for their power forward throughout the year. The most glaring weakness on this Atlanta team is at the point guard position. So deals for the likes of Steve Nash (not happening because he won’t force a trade), Rajon Rondo (see below) or Deron Williams (also highly unlikely) would be the best case scenarios for the Hawks.

              Atlanta may be better off coaxing Smith to stay and putting off dealing with this mess until next season’s deadline.

              Contract Status: $12.4 million this season, $13.2 mill next year.

              Rajon Rondo:

              The best player on the Boston Celtics throughout the 2011-2012 season, Rondo is the Celtics’ best trade chip going into the deadline. Rondo is the type of player that changes the game at the point guard position with his defensive prowess and ability to do just about everything on the court at a high level on a nightly basis.

              Even though Boston finds itself on a nice little 5-1 run since the All-Star break, the days of the Celtics being championship contenders are gradually slipping away in the proverbial rear-view mirror.

              Celtics’ GM Danny Ainge continues to say Rondo is not being actively shopped, but the fact that he continues to comment on the quality of offers for him seems to rebuke those statements. Knowing that Ainge is already taking those calls and weighing their value suggests the Celtics are seemingly just waiting for the right offer.

              The Atlanta Hawks would be an ideal trade partner for Boston. The Hawks could send the disgruntled Josh Smith (see above) to the Celtics along with a few other pieces for Rondo and spare parts. With his outstanding play lately, it will be hard for the Boston brass to sell a Rondo trade to the Celtics’ faithful – even if the swap brings back a player the caliber of Smith.

              Contract Status: Signed through the 2014-2015 season, Rondo is owed $10 million this year and gets a one million dollar boost per year every year after that.

              Pau Gasol:

              Long rumored to be leaving L.A., Gasol and the Los Angeles Lakers appear to be at an impasse as the Lakers have struggled out of the gate to start the season. There are numerous reports already that L.A. is seemingly just waiting to pull the trigger on shipping Gasol until they can find the best offer.

              Gasol, while not the type of player you can build a team around, is a nice second-banana that does a little bit of everything out there from the power forward position. The seven-footer also brings the experience of two NBA titles; something not many power forwards in this league not named Tim Duncan can say.

              The Houston Rockets, who’ve already attempted to acquire him once this season, appear to be the most likely trading partner to acquire Gasol’s services with Kevin Martin (see below) and Luis Scola apparently on the table. However, the Lakers desperately need a point guard and it’s unknown whether or not Houston is going to bend enough to insert Kyle Lowry into the deal.

              Contract Status: Gasol is signed through the 2013-2014 season and is owed $18,714,150 and $19 million next year.

              Michael Beasley:

              The biggest piece of trade bait for the young and upcoming T-Wolves, Beasley has been linked to numerous teams throughout the season. Still young at just 23 years old, Beasley is a solid scorer and still has plenty of room to improve going forward.

              Off the court issues aside, there’s no question that Beasley has the tools to be a talent in this league. The Los Angeles Lakers, Boston Celtics, New Jersey Nets and Orlando Magic have all shown interest in Beasley.

              ESPN’s Chris Broussard says the Lakers turned down Minnesota’s offer of Beasley in exchange for a first round pick and the trade exception from the trade of Lamar Odom ($8.9 million). If that’s all it takes to get Beasley (a protected 20+ pick and cash) it appears the T-Wolves are ready to just dump the fourth-year player.

              Contract Status: Making $6,262,347 this season and then Beasley has a qualifying offer (restricted FA) of $8,172,362 next season.

              Monta Ellis:

              Arguably the most explosive offensive player on the market, Ellis is averaging 22 points for the Golden State Warriors – good for ninth overall in the NBA. The development of rookie Klay Thompson at shooting guard seems to have pushed the Warriors to at least discuss the possibility of trading Ellis.

              The Orlando Magic seemed to have wanted him, but Golden State wants Dwight Howard in return which is not going to happen. Other than that, the Warriors continue to preach that it’s Dwight or nothing in terms of trading Ellis but that could change as the deadline nears and Golden State (15-21) continues to flounder.

              Contract Status: Ellis is owed $11 million this year and $11 each over the next two years with a player option for the 2013-2014 season.

              Kevin Martin:

              Along with Gasol, Martin was also part of the dissolved trade at the beginning of the season that would’ve sent Chris Paul to the Lakers and Martin has quietly been the Houston Rockets’ most consistent producer on offense. Martin leads the Rockets with 17.7 point per game and has been an important facet of Houston’s surprising 21-19 start.

              This hasn’t changed the Rockets’ desire to bring Pau Gasol or Dwight Howard to Houston, especially after the team’s recent five-game losing streak, which means Martin would have to be a key piece in either of those deals.

              There are numerous teams in the market for a shooting guard that can score on a consistent basis including: the Minnesota T-Wolves, Orlando Magic and Los Angeles Clippers.

              Still, the most likely destinations would have to be either L.A. or Orlando with each of those teams possessing the Rockets’ ideal acquisition.

              Contract Status: Martin is owed $12,019,840 this season and $12,939,675 next year.

              Jamal Crawford:

              While it was originally thought that Raymond Felton was the most likely Portland Trail Blazer to be shipped at the deadline, now it appears Crawford is the top name on the block. After playing well enough to overtake Felton in the starting lineup, Felton has played his way back into form while Crawford has struggled.

              Compounding his ineffectiveness, Crawford has a player option for $5 million next season that he’s likely to exercise, which has made the Blazers wary that they won’t be able to retain him.

              In terms of potential destinations, Crawford has been linked to the Minnesota Timberwolves, Los Angeles Clippers and the Sacramento Kings to name a few; but his opt-out clause may make more than a few teams wary of the combo-guard as well.

              Contract Status: Crawford is due $5 million this season and has a player option for another $5 million next season.

              The trade winds for the 2011-2012 NBA trading deadline March 15 are stirring, what will your team do at the deadline? Leave your comments below!
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              • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                Trade in process?

                Brian T. Smith ‏ @tribjazz Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
                Devin Harris (flu) out vs. Chicago Bulls.
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                • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                  Collison+granger+kaman to C's
                  Rondo+Allen+Jo(salary)

                  Or

                  Collison+hibbert maybe djonesfor
                  Rondo+filler(s)

                  Which offer would C's be more interested in?
                  Murph

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                  • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                    Add in first round draft picks if need be
                    Murph

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                    • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                      http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

                      According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic. Contra Costa Times
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                      • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                        This writer is even coming up with trades


                        http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2012...-andrew-bogut/


                        Warriors Have Their Eyes on Andrew Bogut

                        By Marcus Thompson
                        Saturday, March 10th, 2012 at 12:26 pm in Uncategorized.

                        Talks perhaps won’t really heat up for another couple days. But count the Warriors among teams interested in Andrew Bogut.

                        According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic.

                        First off, Bogut is hurt. Thanks to an injured left ankle, he could be done for the season. Ideally, the Warriors would like to trade for someone who can help now.

                        Also, Bogut’s price is high.

                        The Bucks, which are in desperate need of consistent offense, aren’t pining to get Monta Ellis – who would form a little backcourt with point guard Brandon Jennings. But even if the Warriors come up with a package the Bucks might like – for instance Andris Biedrins, Kwame Brown’s expiring, Dorell Wright and Ekpe Udoh — Golden State would have to take back on of two players they really don’t want.

                        Stephen Jackson or Drew Gooden.

                        Jackson’s history with the Warriors is probably too irreparable for him to bring back. Plus, the Warriors would not give him the extension he wants, so it could end poorly. However, Jackson – who makes $9 million this year and $10 million next year – would be an upgrade over Dorell Wright and if it means shedding Biedrins’ last year, it may be worth considering.

                        Gooden is a tad more desireable than Jackson. He can give them something off the bench, especially if the Warriors lose Udoh. Problem with Gooden, a Bay Area native, is his contract has three years, $20 million on it after this year. That’s a noted commitment. But it may be worth it if the Warriors can add Bogut while keeping it’s core.

                        Perhaps the more likely option is to get a third team involved, preferably one that would take Stephen Jackson.

                        Yes, I came up with such a trade.

                        WARRIORS GET
                        Andrew Bogut
                        Ronnie Brewer
                        C.J. Watson

                        Warriors upgrade at center and at back-up PG. The trio of Ronnie Brewer, Brandon Rush and Dominic McGuire makes them solid defensively on the wings.

                        BUCKS GET
                        Carlos Boozer
                        Kwame expiring
                        Dorell Wright

                        Milwaukee sheds its Stephen Jackson headache, gets salary cap relief in Kwame and gets potential offensive help in Dorell. Convincing them to take Boozer may be a reach since they have good young PFs

                        BULLS GET
                        Monta Ellis
                        Stephen Jackson
                        Nate Robinson

                        Bulls get much-needed scoring help in Monta and dump Boozer’s contract, paving the way for Taj Gibson to start. Their bench now features Jackson, Rip Hamilton and Nate Robinson – perhaps not Thibs kind of guys but could work.

                        Here is another one that may work better

                        WARRIORS GET
                        Andrew Bogut
                        Drew Gooden

                        Monta for Bogut. Gooden for Andris. Win on both fronts, right?

                        BUCKS GET
                        Joe Johnson

                        Joe is expensive, but Milwaukee sheds two contracts for one and now their backcourt is Joe Johnson and Brandon Jennings to go with some good young bigs.

                        HAWKS GET
                        Monta Ellis
                        Andris Biedrins

                        Atlanta rids itself of Joe’s contract without losing offense. Monta and Teague would be explosive – and cheaper – backcourt.
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                        • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                          Not a bad deal for the Cavaliers if they can pull it off.

                          Rumors say the Cavs continue to have an open dialogue with the Atlanta Hawks concerning small forward Marvin Williams. That rumor won't go away. One media report said forward Josh Smith's name has been added to those discussions. Some have suggested sending Jamison and Sessions to the Hawks for Williams and Smith. The Cavs would probably do that. News-Herald
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                          • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                            That deal is rediculously lopsided, you don't trade a player like Smith for that crap
                            Did you know Antonio and Dale aren’t actually brothers?

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                              Originally posted by TheDavisBrothers View Post
                              That deal is rediculously lopsided, you don't trade a player like Smith for that crap
                              yep if Atlanta accepts that crap they made out like bandits
                              Counting down the days untill DJ Augustin's contract expires.

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                              • Re: 2012 NBA rumors thread part II

                                Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
                                Not a bad deal for the Cavaliers if they can pull it off.
                                I saw that. Cavs would make out like bandits. I'm sure the Cavs would also have to include Vesley or Thompson.
                                First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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