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    I really hope they make a trade for "the guy"




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    Everyone's leaning on the Pacers these days. With less than a week to go before the March 15 trade deadline, Indiana's cap space and impressive ranking in the East (pretty safely ensconced in the fifth seed) make Indiana the team every desperate NBA squad and desperate media outlet's favorite fallback trading partner. The Pacers are good but have plenty of holes; the team has the flexibility to make a transaction without having to send any players back, and personnel chief Larry Bird has never been hesitant to swing a deal or two.

    What helps, though? Chris Kaman? Jamal Crawford? Why do the Pacers need to make a deal, just for the sake of movement and using up all that available cap space?

    One watch of one half of Pacers basketball, and the team's needs become obvious to the viewer. Indiana badly covets a point guard that can create for others, and they need more fans to fill in (and speaking as someone who lives in Indiana, Hoosiers can really "fill in") those seats at the fieldhouse with a corporate sponsor that the team plays in. Kaman and Crawford aren't solving anything, in this regard, and it's questionable as to how the Pacers can justify even meeting the salary cap limit with the league's 29th-worst attendance.



    On top of that, the Pacers seem unwilling to go after both Crawford and Kaman if it means giving up something we rarely see value in -- a middling non-lottery first-round pick. This is according to the Indianapolis Star's spot-on beat reporter Mike Wells.

    In most years, the 26th pick in the draft (the space where the Pacers would currently work from, entering Friday night's action) is one of the least-enviable spots to choose from, because you could be wasting a guaranteed contract on training camp fodder. This draft is deeper than most, and (more importantly to this writer, who knows absolutely nothing about this year's potential draftees) the Pacers will need a player to step in once they clear the books this summer. A contributor on a slim contract, following an offseason that might see the Pacers either whiff on free agents or stack the deck with a top-heavy team with little depth, is going to be worth his weight in gold.

    Assuming the Pacers don't draft a woman. Troglodytes. Get with the times, Larry Bird.

    Even with 11 players under contract for 2012-13, the Pacers have enviable depth presuming all options are picked up and the team doesn't sign and trade a litany of rotation fillers away. It's not championship depth, to be sure, and the Pacers are still lacking that franchise player in spite of Danny Granger, David West and Roy Hibbert's past All-Star appearances, but outside of those All-Stars the Pacers boast nothing but solid contributors on tiny contracts. And yet they'll still have nearly a maximum deal's worth of cap space to spend this summer.

    So to toss out a first-round selection or A.J. Price just for two months' worth of a player that might be redundant? It wouldn't be the worst deal in the world, but we can understand if the Pacers give this trade deadline a miss.

    This won't stir the echoes in Indiana, though. For whatever reason, this team isn't connecting with fans; possibly because we're all out of money and like staying home to take in the Pacers on TV or radio (the team sports possibly the best radio/TV combo in the biz).

    If the Pacers make a deal, it has to be for someone that stirs the imagination of those who are bored with this team. Not just because of the exposure that deal would create, but because the team needs a superstar. We don't often talk in these terms, but the Pacers need a game-changer, and someone opposing teams just can't counter. Sometimes team ball just isn't enough; and this part is being written in a vacuum, irrespective of the team's attendance woes.

    It has to be for Rajon Rondo. It has to be for Steve Nash. It has to be for someone that absolutely tips the scales. Because Indiana has size, interior scoring, frontline depth, help on the wings, and able defenders all around. They have a fantastic third guard that happens to start, in Darren Collison. They have everyone besides the guy that can create a 12-2 run on his own. They need Rondo, or Steve Nash. Neither, unfortunately, might end up in Indy; though both would work in any number of two or three-way packages that would take advantage of Indy's many movable parts and cap space.

    (Ray Allen, sublime player that he is, will not be included in that stratum. And not for Tyler Hansbrough and a first-round pick, a deal that makes no sense for either the Pacers or the Celtics.)


    Beyond that, there's really no point. If the Pacers do pull off a trade for a lesser light, it'll blow up on Twitter that afternoon, 14 websites will come out with analysis of the deal, and it will be an absolute afterthought by the time Ersan Ilyasova turns 25 years old on May 15. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    The Pacers won't be winning a championship this year, but they're one of the deeper teams in this league even in cost-cutting mode, and they've done a terrific job in Frank Vogel's first year considering the new parts, shortened season, and "wait 'til 2012-13"-stance. If the Pacers pass on any moves during this trade deadline, it shouldn't be a disappointment to the team's fan base.

    And it wouldn't kill them to go to a few games, now and again.

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    Chris Mannix: Kyle Lowry still not in the mix for any deal involving Pau Gasol, sources say. Twitter

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    Been going back and forth on trades that would work for both sides. Love rondo and think he would do wonders here. That being said, we do have to give up some core pieces to get him, but think we are ultimately a better team after

    Collison+granger+kaman( two 2nd rounders and maybe Lou or aj) for rondo and Allen
    ----C's do it bc they get much younger and deeper, a solid starting center in kaman who is only 29 a young point guard and a borderline all star

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    Collison+hibbert for rondo, then trade for kaman

    ----do the C's want a young all star center in hibbert for rondo? Probably, but Roy will get paid big time this summer...I think both of these offers are fair, benefiting both sides. I think the C's would be more interested in first trade IMO
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    2 future 1st round picks?


    The Orlando Magic have called teams to ask about their interest in trading for starting small forward Hedo Turkoglu prior to Thursday's NBA trade deadline, reports Marc Stein of ESPN.com, but have found little interest in the 32-year-old. "It's one thing to try to foist Turkoglu on a team that's trading for [Dwight] Howard," Stein says, "and quite another to try to move Turkoglu, or any other vet in Howard's supporting cast, when Dwight himself isn't part of the deal."

    Turkoglu, whom the Magic re-acquired from the Phoenix Suns in December 2010, is averaging 11.2 points, 3.7 rebounds, and 4.7 assists for Orlando during the 2011/12 season. The Magic are hoping to add another star to complement Howard, and Stein says Turkoglu's name "is the first" Orlando's offered to opposing teams in trade talks "over the past week or so."

    One "front-office source" Stein consulted for his story says the Magic would need to include "at least two [future] first-round picks" to entice another team to take the two years and $18 million remaining on Turkoglu's contract.

    Since starting the 2011/12 season strong, Turkoglu's productivity has dipped sharply, as the 12-year veteran is shooting just 37.1 percent in his last 20 games.

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    Been going back and forth on trades that would work for both sides. Love rondo and think he would do wonders here. That being said, we do have to give up some core pieces to get him, but think we are ultimately a better team after

    Collison+granger+kaman( two 2nd rounders and maybe Lou or aj) for rondo and Allen
    ----C's do it bc they get much younger and deeper, a solid starting center in kaman who is only 29 a young point guard and a borderline all star

    Or

    Collison+hibbert for rondo, then trade for kaman

    ----do the C's want a young all star center in hibbert for rondo? Probably, but Roy will get paid big time this summer...I think both of these offers are fair, benefiting both sides. I think the C's would be more interested in first trade IMO
    Neither trade would work. Your first trade has to much salary going to Boston. Your second trade has to much salary going to Indiana.

    If you don't know about the following site, check it out, It's cool!

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
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    2 future 1st round picks?
    His final year (2013) is a 6mil payout on his non-guarantee final year. That is a heck of a deal. Hedo is not that bad of a player for 1 year of him and getting 2 1st. The dude just can't find his shot.

    If Danny could be traded for a good pg, I would actually do this. Infact, I know a trade that would go really well, but I couldn't figure why to (so called) pull the trigger. Granger to Clippers for Mo Williams and Ryan Gomes and Wolves 2012 1st rnd pick.

    This would give 3 2012 1st round picks and 2 2013 1st round picks. This would be a lot of assets for big time trades...just sayin!
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    2 future 1st round picks?
    yes his contract is awful but IMO this is the type of deal we need to do and if the Magic want to get rid of him bad enough they would need to give us at least 2 1st rd picks. I hope we can do a trade like this at the deadline.

    Hedo's contract would come off the books when it is time to pay George and others.

    Hedo would really help the offense in terms of ball movement he wouldn't be my first choice to pull a take a bad contract for picks but it wouldn't be that bad especially if Dwight bolts.

    the Hornets own the Wolves 2012 pick pacer fan and even if they didnt I am not a fan of that trade Mo Williams isn't a big enough upgrade and isnt the type of pg I think we need.
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    the Hornets own the Wolves 2012 pick pacer fan and even if they didnt I am not a fan of that trade Mo Williams isn't a big enough upgrade and isnt the type of pg I think we need.
    Your right, don't know what I was thinking. The clips give Hornets the most favorable of the Clippers 2012 1st picks which will prolly be Wolves pick going to Hornets. Then the Clippers still have their own 2012.

    Your prolly right too on Mo. I just heard acouple months ago about the Clippers needing another piece and Danny would be a great fit but they don't have much to offer back to the Pacers. With a Hedo possibly coming in then I seen the opportunity of Danny's salary going out for a PG. You have someone in mind that would fit? A trade of Danny for point guard? I don't see Boston wanting Granger at all. Of coarse this is under the assumption of Hedo being a Pacers.
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    Just because the would need to give 2 1sts doesn't mean they are actually thinking about giving 2

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    Just because the would need to give 2 1sts doesn't mean they are actually thinking about giving 2
    True, but It's fun to think about.
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    Just because the would need to give 2 1sts doesn't mean they are actually thinking about giving 2
    I agree but IMO there is a team out there who is going to try to clear cap space to sign a Dwill or Howard.


    Ala the Bulls giving Kirk Hindrich and a 1st away to the Wizards a few years ago to try to get Lebron. I just hope we can take advantage.

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    Not elaborating on Cavs at moment. But you should be able to figure it out. Working on deal for someone's lottery pick. That's all for now.

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    As I get more sources to confirm, and more confident that reporting it wouldn't mess with potential deal, or players, I'll be more detailed.


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    You guys are cracking me up! Love you, but can't say more. Would be irresponsible. Just know that, yes, Cavs hard at work as deadline looms.

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    Sam Amico ‏ @SamAmicoFSO
    Not elaborating on Cavs at moment. But you should be able to figure it out. Working on deal for someone's lottery pick. That's all for now.

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    As I get more sources to confirm, and more confident that reporting it wouldn't mess with potential deal, or players, I'll be more detailed.


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    You guys are cracking me up! Love you, but can't say more. Would be irresponsible. Just know that, yes, Cavs hard at work as deadline looms.

    Maybe trading Antwan's expiring deal for a bad contract and a pick smart trade for a rebuilding team.

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    Maybe trading Antwan's expiring deal for a bad contract and a pick smart trade for a rebuilding team.
    Yup, like the BDiddy trade last year. It's a good tactic, as long as the owner is willing to pay. I mean, Dan Gilbert ended up paying something like $29m (the value of Baron's amnestied contract) for Kyrie Irving - and that's pretty much the best case scenario. Not many owners will be willing to pay out that much $$$, and not every lottery pick they buy is bound to turn out so well.

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    I bet the Pacers are trying to get him again.


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    http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-deadli...d-to-be-traded


    We’re five days away from the 2012 NBA trading deadline. Which players are most likely to be packing their bags within the week?

    Let’s take a look at some of the most discussed players on the trade market going forward and where they may end up:

    Dwight Howard:

    It’s still up in the air as to whether Orlando Magic management is willing to concede Howard will not be returning to Orlando. Before any other trade gets made, teams are looking to see where Howard goes and whether or not that domino will fall — unleashing a barrage of moves around the NBA.

    Easily the best center in the game, it isn’t hard to understand why Howard is the most sought-after player at the deadline. Howard leads the NBA with 15 rebounds per contest, while leading the Magic in points (20.7), steals (1.5), blocks (2.2) to go along with his league-best rebounding total.

    Unless GM Otis Smith and the Magic brass realistically believe they can retain Howard, or at least that the big man will choose not to exercise his player option next season to remain in Orlando for one more year, Orlando must trade Howard. It’s imperative that the Magic get something for the team’s best player rather than risk losing him for nothing in the offseason.

    The time is now to sell high on Howard and the ball is in Orlando’s court to pull the trigger. The New Jersey Nets appear out of the running due to Brook Lopez’s ankle injury but the Houston Rockets, Golden State Warriors and Los Angeles Lakers are all potential trade partners for Orlando.

    The Dallas Mavericks, the other team on Howard’s wish list that includes the Lakers and Nets, don’t have the resources to pursue a trade for Howard.

    Contract Status: Howard is owed $17,885,400 for this season and has a player option for next year at $19,261,200.

    Josh Smith:

    Reports are that the 26-year old Smith has set the stage for his exit from the Atlanta Hawks by demanding a trade. An Atlanta native, Smith has become increasingly unnerved with Hawks’ management, finally culminating in his plea for a trade earlier this week.

    Unfortunately for both Smith and the Hawks, the biggest problem with moving the six-foot-nine forward is that his value has been significantly downgraded because now everyone knows he wants out. The Hawks are immediately at the disadvantage at any bargaining table and might end up keeping the disgruntled Smith simply because they can’t find equal value for him through trade.

    Golden State has had interest in Smith all season and it’s no secret the Hawks have fielded trade proposals for their power forward throughout the year. The most glaring weakness on this Atlanta team is at the point guard position. So deals for the likes of Steve Nash (not happening because he won’t force a trade), Rajon Rondo (see below) or Deron Williams (also highly unlikely) would be the best case scenarios for the Hawks.

    Atlanta may be better off coaxing Smith to stay and putting off dealing with this mess until next season’s deadline.

    Contract Status: $12.4 million this season, $13.2 mill next year.

    Rajon Rondo:

    The best player on the Boston Celtics throughout the 2011-2012 season, Rondo is the Celtics’ best trade chip going into the deadline. Rondo is the type of player that changes the game at the point guard position with his defensive prowess and ability to do just about everything on the court at a high level on a nightly basis.

    Even though Boston finds itself on a nice little 5-1 run since the All-Star break, the days of the Celtics being championship contenders are gradually slipping away in the proverbial rear-view mirror.

    Celtics’ GM Danny Ainge continues to say Rondo is not being actively shopped, but the fact that he continues to comment on the quality of offers for him seems to rebuke those statements. Knowing that Ainge is already taking those calls and weighing their value suggests the Celtics are seemingly just waiting for the right offer.

    The Atlanta Hawks would be an ideal trade partner for Boston. The Hawks could send the disgruntled Josh Smith (see above) to the Celtics along with a few other pieces for Rondo and spare parts. With his outstanding play lately, it will be hard for the Boston brass to sell a Rondo trade to the Celtics’ faithful – even if the swap brings back a player the caliber of Smith.

    Contract Status: Signed through the 2014-2015 season, Rondo is owed $10 million this year and gets a one million dollar boost per year every year after that.

    Pau Gasol:

    Long rumored to be leaving L.A., Gasol and the Los Angeles Lakers appear to be at an impasse as the Lakers have struggled out of the gate to start the season. There are numerous reports already that L.A. is seemingly just waiting to pull the trigger on shipping Gasol until they can find the best offer.

    Gasol, while not the type of player you can build a team around, is a nice second-banana that does a little bit of everything out there from the power forward position. The seven-footer also brings the experience of two NBA titles; something not many power forwards in this league not named Tim Duncan can say.

    The Houston Rockets, who’ve already attempted to acquire him once this season, appear to be the most likely trading partner to acquire Gasol’s services with Kevin Martin (see below) and Luis Scola apparently on the table. However, the Lakers desperately need a point guard and it’s unknown whether or not Houston is going to bend enough to insert Kyle Lowry into the deal.

    Contract Status: Gasol is signed through the 2013-2014 season and is owed $18,714,150 and $19 million next year.

    Michael Beasley:

    The biggest piece of trade bait for the young and upcoming T-Wolves, Beasley has been linked to numerous teams throughout the season. Still young at just 23 years old, Beasley is a solid scorer and still has plenty of room to improve going forward.

    Off the court issues aside, there’s no question that Beasley has the tools to be a talent in this league. The Los Angeles Lakers, Boston Celtics, New Jersey Nets and Orlando Magic have all shown interest in Beasley.

    ESPN’s Chris Broussard says the Lakers turned down Minnesota’s offer of Beasley in exchange for a first round pick and the trade exception from the trade of Lamar Odom ($8.9 million). If that’s all it takes to get Beasley (a protected 20+ pick and cash) it appears the T-Wolves are ready to just dump the fourth-year player.

    Contract Status: Making $6,262,347 this season and then Beasley has a qualifying offer (restricted FA) of $8,172,362 next season.

    Monta Ellis:

    Arguably the most explosive offensive player on the market, Ellis is averaging 22 points for the Golden State Warriors – good for ninth overall in the NBA. The development of rookie Klay Thompson at shooting guard seems to have pushed the Warriors to at least discuss the possibility of trading Ellis.

    The Orlando Magic seemed to have wanted him, but Golden State wants Dwight Howard in return which is not going to happen. Other than that, the Warriors continue to preach that it’s Dwight or nothing in terms of trading Ellis but that could change as the deadline nears and Golden State (15-21) continues to flounder.

    Contract Status: Ellis is owed $11 million this year and $11 each over the next two years with a player option for the 2013-2014 season.

    Kevin Martin:

    Along with Gasol, Martin was also part of the dissolved trade at the beginning of the season that would’ve sent Chris Paul to the Lakers and Martin has quietly been the Houston Rockets’ most consistent producer on offense. Martin leads the Rockets with 17.7 point per game and has been an important facet of Houston’s surprising 21-19 start.

    This hasn’t changed the Rockets’ desire to bring Pau Gasol or Dwight Howard to Houston, especially after the team’s recent five-game losing streak, which means Martin would have to be a key piece in either of those deals.

    There are numerous teams in the market for a shooting guard that can score on a consistent basis including: the Minnesota T-Wolves, Orlando Magic and Los Angeles Clippers.

    Still, the most likely destinations would have to be either L.A. or Orlando with each of those teams possessing the Rockets’ ideal acquisition.

    Contract Status: Martin is owed $12,019,840 this season and $12,939,675 next year.

    Jamal Crawford:

    While it was originally thought that Raymond Felton was the most likely Portland Trail Blazer to be shipped at the deadline, now it appears Crawford is the top name on the block. After playing well enough to overtake Felton in the starting lineup, Felton has played his way back into form while Crawford has struggled.

    Compounding his ineffectiveness, Crawford has a player option for $5 million next season that he’s likely to exercise, which has made the Blazers wary that they won’t be able to retain him.

    In terms of potential destinations, Crawford has been linked to the Minnesota Timberwolves, Los Angeles Clippers and the Sacramento Kings to name a few; but his opt-out clause may make more than a few teams wary of the combo-guard as well.

    Contract Status: Crawford is due $5 million this season and has a player option for another $5 million next season.

    The trade winds for the 2011-2012 NBA trading deadline March 15 are stirring, what will your team do at the deadline? Leave your comments below!

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    Trade in process?

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    Collison+granger+kaman to C's
    Rondo+Allen+Jo(salary)

    Or

    Collison+hibbert maybe djonesfor
    Rondo+filler(s)

    Which offer would C's be more interested in?
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    Add in first round draft picks if need be
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    http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

    According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic. Contra Costa Times

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    This writer is even coming up with trades


    http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2012...-andrew-bogut/


    Warriors Have Their Eyes on Andrew Bogut

    By Marcus Thompson
    Saturday, March 10th, 2012 at 12:26 pm in Uncategorized.

    Talks perhaps won’t really heat up for another couple days. But count the Warriors among teams interested in Andrew Bogut.

    According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic.

    First off, Bogut is hurt. Thanks to an injured left ankle, he could be done for the season. Ideally, the Warriors would like to trade for someone who can help now.

    Also, Bogut’s price is high.

    The Bucks, which are in desperate need of consistent offense, aren’t pining to get Monta Ellis – who would form a little backcourt with point guard Brandon Jennings. But even if the Warriors come up with a package the Bucks might like – for instance Andris Biedrins, Kwame Brown’s expiring, Dorell Wright and Ekpe Udoh — Golden State would have to take back on of two players they really don’t want.

    Stephen Jackson or Drew Gooden.

    Jackson’s history with the Warriors is probably too irreparable for him to bring back. Plus, the Warriors would not give him the extension he wants, so it could end poorly. However, Jackson – who makes $9 million this year and $10 million next year – would be an upgrade over Dorell Wright and if it means shedding Biedrins’ last year, it may be worth considering.

    Gooden is a tad more desireable than Jackson. He can give them something off the bench, especially if the Warriors lose Udoh. Problem with Gooden, a Bay Area native, is his contract has three years, $20 million on it after this year. That’s a noted commitment. But it may be worth it if the Warriors can add Bogut while keeping it’s core.

    Perhaps the more likely option is to get a third team involved, preferably one that would take Stephen Jackson.

    Yes, I came up with such a trade.

    WARRIORS GET
    Andrew Bogut
    Ronnie Brewer
    C.J. Watson

    Warriors upgrade at center and at back-up PG. The trio of Ronnie Brewer, Brandon Rush and Dominic McGuire makes them solid defensively on the wings.

    BUCKS GET
    Carlos Boozer
    Kwame expiring
    Dorell Wright

    Milwaukee sheds its Stephen Jackson headache, gets salary cap relief in Kwame and gets potential offensive help in Dorell. Convincing them to take Boozer may be a reach since they have good young PFs

    BULLS GET
    Monta Ellis
    Stephen Jackson
    Nate Robinson

    Bulls get much-needed scoring help in Monta and dump Boozer’s contract, paving the way for Taj Gibson to start. Their bench now features Jackson, Rip Hamilton and Nate Robinson – perhaps not Thibs kind of guys but could work.

    Here is another one that may work better

    WARRIORS GET
    Andrew Bogut
    Drew Gooden

    Monta for Bogut. Gooden for Andris. Win on both fronts, right?

    BUCKS GET
    Joe Johnson

    Joe is expensive, but Milwaukee sheds two contracts for one and now their backcourt is Joe Johnson and Brandon Jennings to go with some good young bigs.

    HAWKS GET
    Monta Ellis
    Andris Biedrins

    Atlanta rids itself of Joe’s contract without losing offense. Monta and Teague would be explosive – and cheaper – backcourt.

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    Not a bad deal for the Cavaliers if they can pull it off.

    Rumors say the Cavs continue to have an open dialogue with the Atlanta Hawks concerning small forward Marvin Williams. That rumor won't go away. One media report said forward Josh Smith's name has been added to those discussions. Some have suggested sending Jamison and Sessions to the Hawks for Williams and Smith. The Cavs would probably do that. News-Herald

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    That deal is rediculously lopsided, you don't trade a player like Smith for that crap

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    That deal is rediculously lopsided, you don't trade a player like Smith for that crap
    yep if Atlanta accepts that crap they made out like bandits

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    Not a bad deal for the Cavaliers if they can pull it off.
    I saw that. Cavs would make out like bandits. I'm sure the Cavs would also have to include Vesley or Thompson.
    Lance + Starting SG = Awesome

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