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    Please Please adhere to the board's rules, this is a thread to post and discuss actual rumours (referals, links requried) and news (referal and links required) and discuss those.

    This is NOT an extension of the tradeboard; you can let your fantasy lose there, PLEASE keep it away from here.

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    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...or-buyout.html

    The chances of Boris Diaw not finishing the season with the Charlotte Bobcats are growing, with his agent inquiring about a buyout that would free Diaw to sign elsewhere.

    Bobcats president of basketball operations Rod Higgins told the Observer Tuesday that he met with Diaw before the All-Star break about Diaw's role and his expiring contract. Higgins said he has since had discussions with Diaw's agent, Doug Neustadt.

    "Boris and I had a meeting prior to the All-Star break, maybe Wednesday before. We talked about quite a few things,'' Higgins said. "The issue with the buyout, it was raised on their side, from Doug. We haven't gone down that road any further.''

    Initial attempts to reach Neustadt by telephone and email Tuesday failed. The possibility of Diaw accepting a buyout was briefly raised in the French sports daily L'Equipe. Diaw is from France.

    Under a buyout, Diaw would agree to reduce his remaining guarantee by some number, in return for the Bobcats waiving him in time for him to sign elsewhere and be playoff-eligible on a new roster. Diaw would have to be waived by March 23 for that to happen.

    Diaw is the Bobcats' second-highest paid player at $9 million, and his contract expires after this season. He hasn't had much impact this season and briefly lost his starting spot at power forward. He's averaging 7.7 points, the first time in his three seasons with the Bobcats he's failed to average double figures.

    After Diaw took just four shots in 40 minutes against the New Jersey Nets Sunday, coach Paul Silas said invariably when Diaw passes up shots, some teammate ends up with an inferior shot.

    With the Bobcats winning just four of their first 33 games and long out of playoff contention, it appears likely Silas would turn to younger power forwards Tyrus Thomas and D.J. White over Diaw the rest of the season.

    However, any serious discussion of buying out Diaw's contract makes no sense until the NBA trade deadline expires March 15.

    "No question,'' Higgins confirmed. "Those conversations, if they happen, would happen after the deadline.''

    Diaw's expiring contract means he has some trade value, particularly to a contender who would effectively rent him the rest of the season. However, trading Diaw could be problematic since it's unlikely a team could absorb his salary under NBA trade rules without sending a similar salary to the Bobcats.

    The Bobcats are committed to maintaining salary-cap flexibility next summer. They could be as much as $21 million under the cap when free-agency starts in July. They would be looking for a draft choice or a young player if they were to trade Diaw.

    Asked if he'd like to be traded, or would be receptive to a buyout, Diaw was noncommittal Tuesday morning.

    "We don't control that,'' Diaw said of trade possibilities. "Everybody wants to make the playoffs and win, but there is some work to do here, too. We can get this team to be better, and right now I'm trying to do that.''

    Diaw had a white-hot start to the season (especially as a rebounder) but has completely fallen off the face of the earth, being one of two Bobcats (Gana Diop) to register DNP-CDs in last night's win over Orlando. His trade value has never been lower, and it sounds like a buyout is possible -- if not probable.

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    http://www.thestar.com/sports/basket...anthony-carter

    Now the rampant speculation can begin.

    It won’t necessarily be right but it will begin.

    The Raptors are planning to cut ties with veteran point guard Anthony Carter, a move that will either mean a minor transaction or the opening of a roster spot just ahead of the March 15 NBA trade deadline.

    But nothing is imminent and not too much should be read into the move to end Carter’s half-season with the team.

    The 36-year-old was brought in to provide some veteran leadership and help new coach Dwane Casey get his “culture change” message through to the team.

    That accomplished, Carter has now left the team and, according to a Raptors source, they will try to trade him to a playoff contender for a bit piece — a player with no long-term contractual obligations — or simply waive him and have an open roster spot to play with.

    That decision hasn’t been made yet and likely won’t for a few days, giving Carter and his agent a chance to find a new home with a team that might give the Raptors something like a relatively insignificant second-round draft pick.

    The more likely scenario is that Carter clears waivers and the Raptors have an open roster spot to use on a young point guard to play behind Jose Calderon and Jerryd Bayless.

    Looks like the teams that are out of the race might be starting to make moves. Carter and Diaw aren't great players by any stretch, but both have experience as parts of playoff teams and could provide depth for teams in need.


    (BTW, if you're not looking for articles about signings/releases I will stop posting articles about these types of moves)

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    http://www.thestar.com/sports/basket...anthony-carter




    Looks like the teams that are out of the race might be starting to make moves. Carter and Diaw aren't great players by any stretch, but both have experience as parts of playoff teams and could provide depth for teams in need.


    (BTW, if you're not looking for articles about signings/releases I will stop posting articles about these types of moves)

    IMO that is a significant part of what this thread is about, a question like "would they take a 2nd round pick for Diaw and would you want him for that", is a legit question in light of these postings, but asking if granger for t-mac is an idea belongs in the trade forum.
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    So any trade speculation has to go there now too? Or any back and forth as to whether the players in a deal would be of similar value? I didn't see a lot of random, could we trade Granger for that guy or this guy, I saw a lot of posts about supposedly available players and whether we had the expendable assets to acquire them. If that has to be the trade board, then so be it.

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    So any trade speculation has to go there now too? Or any back and forth as to whether the players in a deal would be of similar value? I didn't see a lot of random, could we trade Granger for that guy or this guy, I saw a lot of posts about supposedly available players and whether we had the expendable assets to acquire them. If that has to be the trade board, then so be it.
    Basically this thread is reserved for real rumors/news coming from anylists or others that are on "the inside"... Not for us to just chat about trades that aren't actually happening.

    This is restricted to real things going on in the league... The other thread is fit for just about anything, to discuss our wishes. Whether they be realistic or not, we should keep most of our talk out of this thread if it doesn't have a legit source saying something is a true possibility to happen.


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    Chris Broussard of ESPN: "The talk is that the Lakers are trying to hit a homerun with Pau Gasol, but people feel like they're not going to get that deal. They should just take what Houston is willing to give, which is a nice package of Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic, Luis Scola and maybe Houston's first round pick. … Right next door, the Clippers were offered Jamal Crawford for Eric Bledsoe … and they have their eye on Ray Allen."
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-11061250
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    Solomon Jones May Stay In New Orleans
    Solomon Jones' second 10-day contract expires after Wednesday's game and the team must decide to let him go or sign him to a rest-of-season contract.

    The Hornets aren't sure when Emeka Okafor will return to the lineup and according to The Times-Picayune, head coach Monty Williams said "there is a good chance" Jones will be kept for the remainder of the season.

    "That's not in my control," Jones said. "The only thing I can do is play and help my team win."

    Jones is averaging 6.1 points and 3.9 rebounds since he signed the first 10-day contract.

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/featu...play%3dcomment

    I can't access the article, but the description says "Vogel trusts Bird and Morway, The Pacers will probably make a trade."

    Can anyone post the article?
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    The Indiana Pacers could use talent upgrades at a few positions and they have $14.27 million in cap room.

    Head coach Frank Vogel could use another big man, however, he's not going to demand anything from the front office.

    "I've got a great deal of faith and confidence in Larry Bird and (general manger) David Morway, and whatever they feel they need, it's their team," Vogel tells The Indianapolis Star. "I'm just here to coach it. I've got a great deal of confidence in Lou Amundson; he's been playing really good basketball for us. If we need to extend his minutes, I'm fine with that."

    Each NBA team must have a minimum cap number of at least $46.435 million this season and the Pacers are currently below that amount by $2.66 million.

    One reported target of the Pacers is New Orleans Hornets center Chris Kaman.
    There we go.

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    Basically this thread is reserved for real rumors/news coming from anylists or others that are on "the inside"... Not for us to just chat about trades that aren't actually happening.

    This is restricted to real things going on in the league... The other thread is fit for just about anything, to discuss our wishes. Whether they be realistic or not, we should keep most of our talk out of this thread if it doesn't have a legit source saying something is a true possibility to happen
    Other thread is locked.

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    Vogel saying he has confidence in extending Lou Amundson's minutes...sounds like Hans might be on the trading block for real.
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    Vogel saying he has confidence in extending Lou Amundson's minutes...sounds like Hans might be on the trading block for real.
    extending lou's minutes is a good idea. a place to start would be letting roy sit some more. he seems to be playing too many minutes. roy's effectiveness drops off big time after 30 or so mpg.

    edit: delete this if this type of comment is not ok.

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    Vogel saying he has confidence in extending Lou Amundson's minutes...sounds like Hans might be on the trading block for real.
    There's a rumor that Hansbrough is on the Trading Block?

    Cuz extending minutes for Amundson doesn't necessarily mean that Hansbrough is on the Block. It just means that Vogel probably thinks that Amundson is doing better than Hansbrough for now and that he deserves more minutes.
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    There's a rumor that Hansbrough is on the Trading Block?

    Cuz extending minutes for Amundson doesn't necessarily mean that Hansbrough is on the Block. It just means that Vogel probably thinks that Amundson is doing better than Hansbrough for now and that he deserves more minutes.
    In the context of the full quote from Vogel, in which he first mentions that he has faith in Bird and Morway's decisions, then follows it up with being fine with extending Lou's minutes, it just stood out to me. Sounds like he's refering to having to extend Lou's minutes after decisions made by Bird and Morway, as in possibly trading Hans. But maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see in that quote.
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    The Lou comment from Vogel is because Jeff is out and the speculation is that Bird may make a move to replace Jeff, since he's not healthy. Vogel is saying I have confidence in Lou. These comments have nothing to do with Tyler in anyway, imo.

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    The Lou comment from Vogel is because Jeff is out and the speculation is that Bird may make a move to replace Jeff, since he's not healthy. Vogel is saying I have confidence in Lou. These comments have nothing to do with Tyler in anyway, imo.
    Ah, that makes sense. You're probably right. Giving it more thought, it would be ridiculous of Vogel to leak something like a Hans trade.
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    Nets Could Begin Trading Assets If Magic Keep Howard


    Brook Lopez will miss the next three weeks due to a sprained ankle, but the Nets intend to still remain active in trade talks before the March 15th deadline.

    Lopez has been the centerpiece of trade discussions with the Magic for Dwight Howard.

    “I know the speculation is, ‘What do we do now?’ ’’ King said. “But we’ve got a good young center (in Lopez); we’ve got a great point guard (Deron Williams). There’s other things I’ll look to do.

    “We have flexibility cap-wise,’’ King continued. “But at the end of the day, I want a healthy Brook Lopez and (don’t want to) worry about making trades at this point in regards of moving Brook Lopez. It’s about trying to add to this team.’’

    King said he will “look at other things that I was already talking about doing with other teams’’ before the deadline.

    I had some things on the table that I’m exploring that will maybe create more cap space for us in the future — maybe bring some more players or some key pieces as we go forward,’’ he said.

    If it is clear the Magic will keep Howard, the Nets may begin selling off assets that don't figure in their long-term plans.

    Mehmet Okur, DeShawn Stevenson, Kris Humphries, Sundiata Gaines, Shelden Williams and Damion James are all on expiring deals.
    Morrow and Farmar are guys we could use off the bench

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    I don't really understand the problem with the other thread on this subject, but okay! Round two, let's do it.

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    I don't really understand the problem with the other thread on this subject, but okay! Round two, let's do it.
    The other thread degenerated into proposed trades and lots of commentary on them instead of being published rumors and articles and associated commentary.
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    Morrow and Farmar are guys we could use off the bench
    Humphries is really underated, imo. If Tyler does get used in a larger trade, I'd jump to get him as his replacement, even as a rental.

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    Humphries is really underated, imo. If Tyler does get used in a larger trade, I'd jump to get him as his replacement, even as a rental.
    I was against signing Humphries in the offseason, but have really come around on his game. I think he would be a GREAT compliment to our team, esp Roy. If we could somehow manage to turn Hans and some Cap room into Morrow and Humphries, I think we would be in good shape moving forward.

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    I was against signing Humphries in the offseason, but have really come around on his game. I think he would be a GREAT compliment to our team, esp Roy. If we could somehow manage to turn Hans and some Cap room into Morrow and Humphries, I think we would be in good shape moving forward.
    I think he got a bad rap on the court for his off the court celeb, maybe. I also think he's improving, especially offensively. He' going to be a top 10 rebounder, its just a matter if he plays defense consistently and how much he can continue to improve. I like his game, it would be interesting to see what he'd do on a good team. I'm always leary of those guys.

    Also, seeing him interact with the other Nets players, I think he's likely a good teammate, but I don't know that for sure, but that was the impression I have gotten.

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    I think he got a bad rap on the court for his off the court celeb, maybe. I also think he's improving, especially offensively. He' going to be a top 10 rebounder, its just a matter if he plays defense consistently and how much he can continue to improve. I like his game, it would be interesting to see what he'd do on a good team. I'm always leary of those guys.

    Also, seeing him interact with the other Nets players, I think he's likely a good teammate, but I don't know that for sure, but that was the impression I have gotten.
    This is true, but with what we've seen of Hans this year, it may be worth finding out how good a player like Humphries could be. (not a Tyler hater, but I think it's obvious he is not the future for us at that position) Humphries is fairly inexpensive, and if he doesn't work maybe we sign another player OR we draft a young athletic PF.

    Aside from PG, I feel like our second biggest need is an athletic 4 man.

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    Humphries is really underated, imo. If Tyler does get used in a larger trade, I'd jump to get him as his replacement, even as a rental.
    I didn't mention Humph because he has more trade value than Morrow/Farmar.
    They don't really have a reason to trade him.

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    I think he got a bad rap on the court for his off the court celeb, maybe. I also think he's improving, especially offensively. He' going to be a top 10 rebounder, its just a matter if he plays defense consistently and how much he can continue to improve. I like his game, it would be interesting to see what he'd do on a good team. I'm always leary of those guys.

    Also, seeing him interact with the other Nets players, I think he's likely a good teammate, but I don't know that for sure, but that was the impression I have gotten.
    I don't think the Nets really want to afford Humphries but he was too good not to bring back and he seemingly wanted to be in NY. He seems like a guy who is all about the bigger cities, IMO. When he was a younger kid he was very brash and arrogant, to where it hurt his relationships with a lot of other ballers his age. That is a big reason why he is one of the more disliked players in the league.

    As for his talent, he really has improved his shot blocking over the last year and a half. That was my biggest concern with going after him in the off-season, where he would just be a more expensive replica of Tyler. I think if we could make a deal with the Nets for him, it would be a great fit for a playoff run. We would have West, Hibbert, Humphries, and Hansborough, all tough players who are pretty physical. That is a lot of rebounding and beef up front for teams to deal with. I would love to swing something for the guy, especially since the Nets would rescind his Bird Rights in order to sign someone else this off-season anyway.

    I think he could really do well coming off the bench for us and give us some shot blocking we lack in the front court outside of Hibbert. It might also allow us to send Hansborough and Collison out in a trade for an upgrade at PG.

    He would obviously prevent us from going out and getting Kaman, who is a country boy at heart and would probably love to play in Indy, depending on his role I'm sure.
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