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    Peck, more information from the Nets bench, I love that type of stuff. Can you pick up on whether they like playing for Avery.

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    Like I said earlier, "Reggie Bush" is downright tame. I wonder what Farmar and Sheldon think of Knicks, Bulls, and ESPECIALLY Philly fans. Their stuff is probably 10x worse and definitely over the line of what Area55 as a whole would probably consider uncomfortable.

    Which reminds me, somehow some of us got to mocking Twilight during halftime last night. Time to find out if any NBA players have made the mistake of saying they like that crap.
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    A couple of things. First:



    In the game I was watching, DC was "defending" DWill in the first quarter. I even remember commenting that PG and DC should be switched on defense.
    My dog unplugged my dtv box early in the first. I actually thought it was dumb to start DC, knowing what would happen. PG still guarded him the vast majority of the game. It wasn't saved for the end, which was the point I was making.

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    I think you are confusing someone pointing out juvenile and classless behavior with getting under someone's skin. One can do the first without the other happening, trust me I know from working with middle schoolers. I have never talked with the guy, but I think she had more to do with the set up and then proceeded to perform a great hatchet job on him. Of course why any guy would want to be with her after the number of guys she has been with is beyond me.

    I guess I would prefer we stayed as classy as fans as we want our players to be. Might not that behavior cause some not to come back to see a game?

    Wish I could get those seats for the Pacers down here in March!


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    Peck,

    Humphries went 0-4 (3-7 total) from the FT line the last time we played them when using the "Reggie Bush" chant. We were definitely going to use it again. Also, he blew a kiss in the air and then pointed at us when he finally made a FT. I'm sure it does bother him, but like Day-V said he knew what he was getting into when he let E! follow his every move around with a camera. He was also paid pretty handsomely for that "show" I would imagine.

    There are definitely lines that we should not cross, but IN MY OPINION this was not one of them. However, I told JonnyB83 on the way out of the Fieldhouse that I would love to have him on our team. Hell, he'd be one of my favorite Pacers. He has a Tyler level of enthusiasm about him, but also has the skill to go with it.
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    Congrats to AREA 55 you're under their skin..... As others have pointed out you can't go on a reality show designed to create controversy, fake drama, to get people to tune in and get paid for it without being willing to take the heat.

    Kris Humphries signed on to be in the lime light and he succeeded.

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    IIRC, humphries had most of his points early. evidently the west and hansbrough didn't read the scouting report that humphries has only one hand. once they started crowding his right hand, things settled down.

    the reason he doesn't get more attention is offensively, he is only a jump shooter with one hand. and defensively, offensively dwest had a good game against him. ie he doesn't appear to be a top notch defender. humphries is a better version of troy murphy, without the 3 pt shooting. better defender, but not a good defender.

    it seems h is just a bad matchup for the current, undersized, pacer PF. so he is one of those guys that looks good against the pacers. better than his actual value. that said, he would still be a nice addition to the frontcourt rotation. pacers could use some size.
    If i recall Hump only signed a one year deal with NJ. So he could be had. i'd take him over Hansbrough any day.
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    I think you are confusing someone pointing out juvenile and classless behavior with getting under someone's skin. One can do the first without the other happening, trust me I know from working with middle schoolers. I have never talked with the guy, but I think she had more to do with the set up and then proceeded to perform a great hatchet job on him. Of course why any guy would want to be with her after the number of guys she has been with is beyond me.

    I guess I would prefer we stayed as classy as fans as we want our players to be. Might not that behavior cause some not to come back to see a game?

    Wish I could get those seats for the Pacers down here in March!

    He signed off to be on the show. He got paid to be on the show. It was his choice to be on the show. This isn't making fun of someone for their mom hooking up with a teammate or the classless "break your leg" chant from last year. This is getting on a guy for signing up for a reality show and choosing to live his life even more in the public eye. If he didn't want the criticism, he shouldn't have signed up for the show. He was fine cashing the checks, so he should be fine with the fallout. Just my two cents.

    Edit: But in all honesty, it really doesn't matter now. NJ doesn't come back so what's done is done. We can't make everyone happy.
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    Eh, wha? I think you're confused.
    Nope, you just ignored the point I was making to harp on a slight inaccuracy.

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    Danny could have taken a week off and let his ankle heal 100%. No, that is just not who he is. This team hasn't quit, and at least for last night the reason was that Danny wouldn't let them quit.
    Danny was moving around pretty good for a guy just coming back after missing 2 games because of sprained ankle wasn't he.

    I kid... I kid. My theory was probably wrong. Sorry Danny.

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    DC with the second unit would be better for everyone! He and Tyler seem to play very well together especially setting up Tyler in rhythm on his FT area jumpers. DC, Tyler and Hill could be a force off the bench with DC hitting Tyler or a kicking it out for a Hill 3 or use his speed to get to the cup.
    DC seems like he'd make a better player off the bench. He's a score-first point guard, who isn't big enough or smart enough to defend nearly all of the starting NBA point guards. I could see him being very effective as a quick, change-of-pace scorer off the bench. To make a very lazy comparison, he's much more comparable to Jason Terry than he is to Jason Kidd.

    Your reasoning for making that move, doesn't make any sense though. Changing our scheme, offense, and lineups in order to get Tyler Hansbrough more jump shots might just be the single worst idea that has ever been proposed on this board.

    For a guy known for the effectiveness of his mid-range jumper, he's stunningly ineffective.

    In his career, he's 265-745 on jump shots. So we're going to make a pretty huge change in order to get a guy hitting jumpers at a .356 clip more attempts? What is the thought process behind that? This season he's only 45-147 for a miserable .306 percentage.

    If you consider the "mid-range" as anything outside of 10 feet. He's a career .383 mid-range shooter. This season he's just a .308 shooter.

    Should we really make a huge adjustment in order to focus our offense around this kind of ineffectiveness?

    This season:

    At the rim he's shooting .579
    From 3-9 feet he's shooting .333
    From 10-15 feet he's shooting .300
    From 16 feet and out he's shooting .311

    His career numbers:

    At the rim he's shooting .551
    From 3-9 feet he's shooting .358
    From 10-15 feet he's shooting .353
    From 16 feet and out he's shooting .391

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    Nope, you just ignored the point I was making to harp on a slight inaccuracy.

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    Yeah he definitely guarded him most of the game last night. That's not how they usually use him though.

    I'm starting to think AJ or Lance should get more playing time versus certain teams so we can use Paul on the other teams best players more often. Darren's defense has disappeared lately.

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    I guess I would prefer we stayed as classy as fans as we want our players to be. Might not that behavior cause some not to come back to see a game?
    Honestly Ken I would think the "and one motherf@#%$%" you constantly see from players would have a more of an impact. Any who if Humphries is willing to put his divorce prodeedings on tv how more open can you get.

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    February 8, 2012 12:55 PM PrintText Kris Humphries wants to televise divorce: Report

    (Credit: CBS/AP) (CBS) We saw them fall in love, but will we get to watch them undergo a bitter divorce?

    Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries split last Ocotber after an over-the-top televised wedding held 72 days earlier. But now sources say Humphries and his attorney, Lee Hutton, want to televise the divorce trial.


    An insider tells TMZ they want to "expose the M.O. of reality TV" by trying to prove that Kardashian didn't want to stay together and was going through with the ceremony to get ratings for her E! reality show.

    But Kardashian wants none of it. A source told RadarOnline.com the TV star's lawyer, Laura Wasser, is formally petitioning for a private mediator - without a camera in sight.


    "Kim doesn't want a long drawn out trial," an insider told the website. "She wants the mediation to be private, confidential, and legally binding. She and Kris have no assets together and kept separate bank accounts, so this is a fairly routine divorce proceeding. Kim just wants this over and done with."


    Kardashian filed for divorce, citing "irreconcilable differences." Humphries, though, has called fraud and wants to annul the marriage.
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    . . . Darren's defense has disappeared lately.
    darren lacks size. against bigger guys like dwill, he just isn't able to control them. there are just some guys he cannot defend.

    fwiw, i think the condensed season hurts guys like darren and tyler. undersized guys that depend on a high motor. with everybody getting tired and therefore slower, their lack of size is more of a handicap than during a normal season.

    i wonder if in the playoffs that will change or not? more rest = lets the quickness back.

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_16...ivorce-report/

    February 8, 2012 12:55 PM PrintText Kris Humphries wants to televise divorce: Report

    (Credit: CBS/AP) (CBS) We saw them fall in love, but will we get to watch them undergo a bitter divorce?

    Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries split last Ocotber after an over-the-top televised wedding held 72 days earlier. But now sources say Humphries and his attorney, Lee Hutton, want to televise the divorce trial.
    This would be FAR more entertaining than ANYTHING ever shown on E!
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    I'd give Foster an A. I think his hustle and energy on both ends of the floor in the 2nd quarter shook this team out of its slumber. From that point on, we brought the effort we had been missing the past few games.

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    darren lacks size. against bigger guys like dwill, he just isn't able to control them. there are just some guys he cannot defend.

    fwiw, i think the condensed season hurts guys like darren and tyler. undersized guys that depend on a high motor. with everybody getting tired and therefore slower, their lack of size is more of a handicap than during a normal season.

    i wonder if in the playoffs that will change or not? more rest = lets the quickness back.

    I'm not sure it's just his size though. It looks like at times he's not putting in much effort to get around screens and stay in front of his man. Size is a major factor and will be a disadvantage against nearly every player, but I'm not seeing him try too hard.

    I will say he was much better in the second half yesterday before he got benched.

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    I loves me some Area 55.

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    BTW, the entire bench calls Kris Humphries ďHulkĒ. Even Avery Johnson calls him that.

    Let me say that Kris Humphries is a very under rated power forward. I have no idea why this guy does not get more attention really in the NBA because he is athletic, strong and quick. He basically destroyed David West tonight and while he didnít quite abuse Tyler he didnít let Tyler get anything going either.

    I donít watch any of the non-scripted TV shows so I can honestly tell you I know nothing about whatever show it was he appeared on but itís just too bad that this is what he is known for and not for being a very good power forward. I honestly wish he was our power forward.
    That's why some of us here were calling to make a run at him over David West in the offseason. Ignoring the off-court reality stuff....Humphries is a more athletic version of Foster that does the dirty work ( which is good ) that also thinks that he has an offensive game ( which is bad ). I would still love to have him on the roster....but we don't have the minutes to play him unless Hansbrough is pushed further down into the rotation....or traded.
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    I didn't care for the Reggie Bush chant, Heard Roy didn't want Kris's personal life brought into the game earlier in the season...

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    This would be FAR more entertaining than ANYTHING ever shown on E!
    Uhhh...what other channel do you think that this Divorce Court travesty show would be televised?
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    I didn't care for the Reggie Bush chant, Heard Roy didn't want Kris's personal life brought into the game earlier in the season...
    Roy told us not to anger Kobe with divorce stuff, he didn't say anything about KDash as far as I know.

    It didn't matter though, because LA doesn't come here.
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    I think AREA 55 should be limited to low level booing and golf clapping only please.
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    Kris Humphries is great offensively... so long as you let him go right along the baseline from the right side on a faceup.

    Tyler and David finally figured out (much later than I would have liked) that things change considerably once you force him to go left.

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    DC, this is really just an awful matchup for him. It's not even his fault on defense. People were saying that when Lance came in, he stopped the bleeding. That wasn't quite true, they just went away from Deron and started picking on DC on defense again. It was very clear that their goal was to exploit him and West defensively. I don't know that it's fair to go "AJ should start over DC" after this game. This was going to be a bad game for DC, everyone knew it before the game started, and for the most part..it's not even DC's fault.

    AJ Price. This was the average game for AJ that I saw at Uconn for two years last night. (With upgraded defense, the one area he's very clearly improved at since college) He was running the team, picking his spots to try and score on offense (and hit some pretty big shots), making really good entry passes. He's not the most talented guy in the world. But he's also probably the smartest basketball player on the roster - and that can make up for a lot of shortcomings.

    And I'd like to point out again, that when you put him on the court with people who are able to score, he runs an offense instead of just trying to get some points for us. He also just doesn't get enough credit for his defense. He's been anywhere from good to exceptional defensively this entire season.

    I think Lance got to play so little, because the unit of AJ, Dahntay, Granger, Hans, Foster played really well together this game, and we needed a win. Vogel just wasn't going to take chances with that. I didn't see Lance do anything to warrant being "benched" he just happened to not be part of the group that got us back in the game.

    Tyler..Tyler needs to really work on his midrange shot. He plays his best when that's falling, and it's really not falling. His midrange, when hitting, allows him to get open shots down low, because opposing power forwards come out and guard him. He doesn't have too many post moves, so he needs to get consistent with that shot.

    That said, he's gotten a lot better at passing from the high post to the low post. He needs to learn to pass it back out when he's about to get double teamed, but I like seeing that improvement from him. And it's been a consistent improvement.

    West, I've given him some crap lately. And I think it's well deserved. He looked better last night, but I need to see some better defensive effort more energy (better rebounding...). He made Mr. Kardashian look like Blake Griffin at times last night. It's nice to see his offense is going well, but the other stuff is more important.

    Roy, I thought Roy did some really good things last night that'll hopefully get him back on track. He didn't have a great game, but it was definitely solid. He's allowed to have peaks and valleys too. I know people get nervous when Roy starts to stutter, but remember, he isn't being emotionally abused this season...(And he's clearly not over O'brien. So maybe when he plays poorly, he gets more nervous Vogel won't trust him or whatever..)

    PG, I like it when PG teases us with his potential. He hasn't been playing well on either side of the court as of late, and tonight his defense was back, and he showed us some nice offensive moves. Just think about how that poor opposing point guard feels when he's guarding them. He's 6'10, stronger, and just as fast...I expect it'll be a few years before he really develops his offense and becomes consistent. But I'll wait.

    Danny. This is what I'm talking about. Calling out West and Danny for not being a leader, and Danny toughs it out, plays really good defense, and was fantastic on the offensive end. Great game by Danny.

    I thought Vogel made some really good coaching decisions tonight, he was in a bit of a funk himself.

    Overall, it seemed like everyone's body language had improved, and I thought so at the beginning of the game. It wasn't pretty by any stretch, and we had some "not so great" moments, but overall..the effort seemed to be there again.
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    Roy told us not to anger Kobe with divorce stuff, he didn't say anything about KDash as far as I know.

    It didn't matter though, because LA doesn't come here.
    But that wasn't for "class reasons" that was "don't upset Kobe unless you'd like to see him put 100 on us"

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    Tyler Hansbrough: C If you believe in the +/- stat (I do not) then he was the best player on the floor for either team. Watching the game will change your mind about that in a hurry. Offensively he had all of the grace and poise of a hemophiliac dancing on broken glass










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