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    Default Re: Seattle might be getting a team?

    The Colts were not stolen. The City of Baltimore was trying to steal a privately owned institution from the Irsay family. Anyone that thinks they were stolen needs to do some real research on the situation.

    However, the Sonics were sold under the assumption that they would be kept in Seattle. Perhaps there was nothing binding in those agreements, but that just makes it dirty poker at best.

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    Several thoughts here.

    First, people here in Charlotte are still very bitter about the whole Hornets situation. So now you have a horrible Bobcats team in the middle of a college basketball state. Bringing the Hornets name back won't fix anything.

    Those of you who watched Sonicsgate saw how personally the fans of the Sonics took the whole situation. I sure hope they don't want to steal the Kings and put other fans through the same ordeal.

    Like a few others have mentioned, I think if any team goes there, it should be the Hornets. I never really felt like they were embraced by NOLA anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacer4ever View Post
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    That is Seattle's fault for not building an arena. They would of stayeed IMO if they did. You cant make empty threats of leaving look what it has got the Kings this year. I personally could never move a team because that is just wrong to the fans of your team and to the franchise.


    Cdash if the Pacers left tomorrow in the middle of the night for Seattle I would never forgive or never forget that. Would you??

    I root and support for the Indiana Pacers not the Seattle Pacers. Also getting a new team wouldnt solve anything IMO yes you get a new team but I dont want a new team I want my Indiana Pacers.


    The Browns were stole also but so were the Colts

    EDIT at least Cleveland got their franchise back. Baltimore didn't they got an expansion franchise. Indy should be the one who have the Indianapolis Ravens and Baltimore should still have the Colts.
    The logic in this statement is very flawed. First, the Baltimore Colts weren't owned by the city of Baltimore. They were owned by Bob Irsay. Every Colt achievement was his and his alone. It was his organization that he built, he hired the staff, who in turned got the players and won games for HIS franchise. None of those wins or championships or records are owned by the city of Baltimore, they are owned by Bob Irsay and his organization.

    He had every right to pack up HIS team, that he paid for, and move then wherever he wanted to. Was it cold? Probably for the fans. Was he justified? Absolutely. The city of Baltimore was trying to take ownership of his franchise away from him. On what grounds? It was his business, and they were trying to steal it from him. He had every right the move the franchise before it was seized from him.

    Those records belong with the organization and the ownership and the players who achieved them. The drunk fans who watched don't own any of it.

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    I REALLY want Seattle to get a franchise again, the passion that franchise has shown since the Sonics left and the support they've gotten from guys like Payton and Slick Watts is great.

    But if they relent on building some majorly tax funded arena to get a team back, I gotta admit, I'll be disappointed. Maybe it was always a sort of "little guy sayin F you" kinda deal, but I always really respected that the city told Schultz screw you we're building libraries, not arenas that you'll profit from. I love, LOVE, pro sports, but arena financing bothers me very, very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdash View Post
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    Nobody really cares anymore.
    They do. Trust me... I live near Baltimore.

    Of course, I bring up how they got Cleveland's team, now the Ravens, and there's always a long pause before some stupid reply.

    It's a generational thing that will phase out over time.

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    I remember this thread was posted, but I didn't mention anything because of it being the SB.

    It's beginning to sound like Sacramento will get an arena built and I don't see why these teams are in such a hurry. I mean, just play in the arena and work to get something done. They've had a great fanbase for years and they've been there for years.

    I don't see them moving at all. Especially not to Seattle to adopt one of their rivals history.

    It's clear to me that the league will soon wave the white flag on keeping the Hornets in New Orleans. They've only been there since 2002 and they've had some great seasons with Chris Paul, but they've never shown support. I know Hurricane Katrina took effect, but the city recovered well and they still didn't show the support the team deserved having great seasons each year. Even before the hurricane.

    Now they're owned by the NBA and the franchise is much more trouble than it's worth.

    I see them going to Seattle, becoming the SuperSonics and adopting that history just like the "new" Cleveland Browns. Considered to be in a period of deactivation (known as the New Orleans Hornets from 2008-whatever year they become the SuperSonics). The Hornets would be considered a contracted franchise. Also, the new Sonics get all the banners and such from the Thunder, who would then become considered an expansion team established in 2008 (like the Ravens). Use the logo :sonics:, colors, uniforms, mascot, etc.
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    I see them going to Seattle, becoming the SuperSonics and adopting that history just like the "new" Cleveland Browns. Considered to be in a period of deactivation (known as the New Orleans Hornets from 2008-whatever year they become the SuperSonics). The Hornets would be considered a contracted franchise. Also, the new Sonics get all the banners and such from the Thunder, who would then become considered an expansion team established in 2008 (like the Ravens). Use the logo :sonics:, colors, uniforms, mascot, etc.
    I thought the history went to OKC?
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    I thought the history went to OKC?
    OKC "holds" it, but they would have to give it all back to Seattle once an NBA team is back there.

    I guess, they'd branch off from each other. OKC considers Sonic players numbers to be retired, but they don't actually display it. I don't know if they'd continue to consider numbers to be retired, but if the "new" Sonics want to retire Ray Allen's #34, no way the Thunder would consider it to be retired and again, if they even want to still have tie-ins to Seattle. I can't imagine they would considering they don't even represent it. So, they'd be considered an expansion franchise.

    That's how it all appears.

    It's not like the NHL with the Winnipeg Jets. The new Jets were originally the Atlanta Thrashers while the original Jets are now the Phoenix Coyotes, who I guess had no agreement to give back the history to Winnipeg when they got a team again. So, the new Jets have the Thrashers history and the Coyotes have the original Jets history. Neither franchise, has any tie-ins.

    With the Sonics, this is like the Browns-Ravens situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Pollard View Post
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    OKC "holds" it, but they would have to give it all back to Seattle once an NBA team is back there.

    I guess, they'd branch off from each other. OKC considers Sonic players numbers to be retired, but they don't actually display it. I don't know if they'd continue to consider numbers to be retired, but if the "new" Sonics want to retire Ray Allen's #34, no way the Thunder would consider it to be retired and again, if they even want to still have tie-ins to Seattle. I can't imagine they would considering they don't even represent it. So, they'd be considered an expansion franchise.

    That's how it all appears.

    It's not like the NHL with the Winnipeg Jets. The new Jets were originally the Atlanta Thrashers while the original Jets are now the Phoenix Coyotes, who I guess had no agreement to give back the history to Winnipeg when they got a team again.
    Thanks, that makes sense.
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    Default Re: Seattle might be getting a team?

    It seems absurd to abandon a fanbase as loyal as sacramento and keep the hornets in NOLA where nobody wanted a team to begin with.

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    Something else came to mind.

    There would need to be division realignment.

    The Hornets (new Sonics) would need to move from the Southwest Division into the Northwest Division and coincidently, the Thunder would move into the Southwest Division.
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