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    I mentioned this in the post game thread and think it may be worthy of its own discussion:

    Paul George has great court vision. In my opinion, he is only a ball-handling upgrade away from becoming Lebron-esque.

    Now, I don't mean he could be as good as Lebron, and he will probably never be as strong as Lebron.

    But he has the shot, the skills, the height, the length, the speed, the quickness, and—the jury is still out here—possibly the killer instinct.

    What he also has, which very few players have and which I believe is the catalyst making Lebron one of the greatest ever, is great court vision.

    My question: PG is only 21. If he were to develop great ball handling skills in the next year or two, could be run our offense?
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    You're delusional.

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    Paul can be a great player. You can't compare him to probably the most gifted athlete in all sports.

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    He's hard to compare to LeBron, easier to compare to Kobe. I do think he has the same court awareness, shooting ability and athleticism as LeBron. He's not as physical, but he's longer than LeBron.

    No, I don't think you want him running the offense. Again, I see a two way player along the lines of a Kobe Bryant. But he still has a ways on offense to get to that level.

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    You're delusional.
    Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to this discussion. Do everyone a favor and start contributing or stop posting!

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    I see what you're saying, but I don't think we'll ever see anyone like Lebron again in our lifetime. Paul is better suited playing with a facilitating PG in my opinion.

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    I was just saying to my brother today that George reminds me of a better defensive, not as naturally offensively talented TMac. Meaning he has a chance to be an absolutely amazing player.

    LeBron is such a freakish once in a lifetime player it's hard to really compare anyone to him.

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    LeBron is so unique that there is nobody you can compare his game. I mean he is the only player I know that can play 4 different positions, and can probably play some C too if he wants to because of his length, speed, size, strength, passing ability, and scoring prowess. A low-post game will take his game into an entirely new level.

    On a closer comparison, PG is more like Durant. Both are taller and longer than their position counterparts. They create mismatches with those size and length difference. The difference is Durant uses his advantage to dominate his opponent by scoring in so many different ways, while PG uses his advantage to destroy his man on the defensive end of the floor.

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    I see what you're saying, but I don't think we'll ever see anyone like Lebron again in our lifetime. Paul is better suited playing with a facilitating PG in my opinion.
    Noted.

    That's why I say "mini."

    Maybe the Durant or TMac comparison is better. But my post comes from my observation that pg has elite court vision like Lebron. Durant and TMac don't have that.
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    I think TMac is the best comparison when you look at absolute ceiling. King Tut is right, his ceiling is probably something like a less offensively gifted but MUCH better defensive version of TMac.

    Lebron is just too hard to compare to anyone else. If I had to compare Lebron to anyone, I would say he is kind of like Karl Malone but with an elite outside game.

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    Good thing we're asking about Lebron so Paul's killer instinct isn't needed

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    His game isn't a whole lot like LeBron, but he can run down a fast-break dunk/layup and block it like LeBron.
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    Let's see PG put together a full season of greatness, of not just goodness, then we will talk. I think we may be getting ahead of ourselves.

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    To me, the only players that you can compare LeBron to are Magic Johnson and Oscar. PG isn't really like any of those, I say let PG be PG.
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    I think they are both questionable shooters, and I think PG lacks a killer instinct, and sometimes I question his quickness with the ball. His ball handling really has to improve for him to be closely compared to anyone, Kobe or Lebron or whoever is great.

    I do think that he is showing things this year that we did not see last year so I am happy to see these improvements, but I am really hoping that continues to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McKeyFan View Post
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    I mentioned this in the post game thread and think it may be worthy of its own discussion:

    Paul George has great court vision. In my opinion, he is only a ball-handling upgrade away from becoming Lebron-esque.

    Now, I don't mean he could be as good as Lebron, and he will probably never be as strong as Lebron.

    But he has the shot, the skills, the height, the length, the speed, the quickness, and—the jury is still out here—possibly the killer instinct.

    What he also has, which very few players have and which I believe is the catalyst making Lebron one of the greatest ever, is great court vision.

    My question: PG is only 21. If he were to develop great ball handling skills in the next year or two, could be run our offense?
    I say this ...
    Look at his stats from last night along with his court play. For at least last night he was Lebron - esque, minus strength.

    The verdict is still out if he can continue this type of play.

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    the really good thing about PG is that he is a willing passer. If you look at guys like Nick Young, Marcus Thornton, etc. they are great scorers but that's all they will be. PG is good at D, Seeing the Court, and his offense is starting to come on.

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    I think they are both questionable shooters, and I think PG lacks a killer instinct, and sometimes I question his quickness with the ball. His ball handling really has to improve for him to be closely compared to anyone, Kobe or Lebron or whoever is great.

    I do think that he is showing things this year that we did not see last year so I am happy to see these improvements, but I am really hoping that continues to get better.
    I disagree saying pg is a questionable shooter isn't true he was a great shooter in college. He will be a great shooter in the nba. But comparing pg to lbj is silly they play nothing alike.
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    I dont particularly think PG is similar to LBJ in any other way than he is 6'8/6'9 athletic SG/SF. Lebron is built like a tank and can play 5 positions. As far as killer instinct goes….Lebron IMO doesn't have it…this is what separates him from a guy like Kobe. Its still too early to say whether or not PG has it. I think by the end of the season, if he continues his ascension as a force on our team then we will have a pretty good idea. So far, I feel like he has been trying to defer to the other more established guys on the team so we haven't really seen him emerge from his shell……the jury is out.

    As far as the perfect comparison…..first off Im of the school of thought that we should in fact, let PG be PG. BUT I can see some similarities in his game to some of the players you guys have mentioned. The T-Mac comparisons are pretty good. They have the same body type, athleticism through the ceiling and play a similar style. The BIG difference is that PG is already an elite defender at just age 21. T-Mac had those abilities, but just didn't turn it on every game. T-Macs handles were tighter, but PG could still develop that.

    The Durant comparison is decent…..Durant is a better rebounder and at this point a more diverse offensive player but PG is still developing so…I really think that PG is pretty unique…especially if he continues to show as much interest in the defensive side of the ball as he has so far to go along with the offense….if his trend continues I think we could be legitimately saying things like "we probably wont see another PG in our lifetime" ….

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    I think PG lacks a killer instinct
    The "killer instinct" really feels more and more like a media creation every year to me. Dirk didn't develop a killer instinct between 06 and 11, he just got better teammates. Duncan is never credited as having a killer instinct and he has four titles. And Kobe winning 5 titles has less to do with a killer instinct and more with having two of the most dominant big men in the last twenty years playing along with him.

    Talent and determination (which every superstar has, or else they wouldn't be a superstar) along with a good supporting cast, win championships, not some mystical superpower.

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    Killer instinct is a real thing...

    Its the phrase we use to shorten up what it really is..

    Its when the game is on the line, your focus strongly enhances and your determination to win takes over.. all your practice time comes to light when your focus is at its highest at this time, as well as your will to win.

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    My very first thought when I saw PG before the draft was "wow, he's like LeBron with finesse instead if power". The first impression LeBron made on me in high school was that he ran in transition at an unparalleled force of speed, which I kind of see in PG.

    PG has good court vision but he's nowhere near LeBron in that category; same as power. However, Paul's a better shooter and defender out of the gate.

    I don't think it's a bad comparison.

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    Killer instinct is a real thing...

    Its the phrase we use to shorten up what it really is..

    Its when the game is on the line, your focus strongly enhances and your determination to win takes over.. all your practice time comes to light when your focus is at its highest at this time, as well as your will to win.
    Kobe has missed an incredible amount of shots, in the playoffs, with the game on the line. The last time they won a title he was bailed out twice in series clinching wins on bad misses at the end of games by teammates with the wherewithal to clean up his misses.

    I don't want this to come off as bashing Kobe, I love his game. But he's the one who usually benefits from having this supposed killer instinct. I just don't see it. Maybe it exists, but it seems like more a way to take cheap shots at great players who haven't won a title yet.

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    I disagree saying pg is a questionable shooter isn't true he was a great shooter in college. He will be a great shooter in the nba. But comparing pg to lbj is silly they play nothing alike.
    LeBron as a rookie was actually a lot like PG is now, just a couple feet in from the arc. He was a completely different player.

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    Young Lebron was also ridiculous skinny compared to what he is now. I don't think PG is going to put on the amount of muscle Lebron did, but it's pretty incredible looking at him at 18 and looking at him now.

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