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    Bird was on Dan Patrick's Show yesterday and did say he was making a big trade soon. Sure he immediately chuckled and said he was trading for Lebron and Kobe, but SMOKESCREEN!

    Wonder what they'd want. The reports have been something like cap savings, a pick, AND a young prospect.

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    The only two actual questions from me would be:

    Is he healthy enough to contribute consistently?

    How long is his remaining contract?

    I am sure the remaining contract question has been answered in the other thread, but I haven't had time to read it.

    Oh, also,

    How would Kaman look with his head completely shaved for the deep playoff run like the Pacers did back in the day?

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    Side benefit: How much better is Hibbert going to get, going up against Kaman every day in practice?
    Serious question: do they really even practice much in a season like this where you don't often have more than one day between games? What do they do on a day like today? I would guess it's a light workout, maybe more of a walkthrough and/or shootaround.

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    Bird was on Dan Patrick's Show yesterday and did say he was making a big trade soon. Sure he immediately chuckled and said he was trading for Lebron and Kobe, but SMOKESCREEN!

    Wonder what they'd want. The reports have been something like cap savings, a pick, AND a young prospect.
    AJ Price and a 2nd rounder for Kaman.

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    Kaman's on a $14 million expiring deal. He's played in 17 games this year and the games he's missed the ESPN box scores have literally said something like "franchise decision" or something that for the games he doesn't. Seems healhty (for not).

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    The only two actual questions from me would be:

    Is he healthy enough to contribute consistently?

    How long is his remaining contract?

    I am sure the remaining contract question has been answered in the other thread, but I haven't had time to read it.

    Oh, also,

    How would Kaman look with his head completely shaved for the deep playoff run like the Pacers did back in the day?
    1. He's healthy right now and since they've benched him and he's not practicing with the team the extra time off should only help.

    2. This is the final year of his contract and New Orleans has already paid a month of it.

    3. He's practically bald now so it wouldn't be much of a difference.

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    If people thought PG and Rush loved [paintball] guns, wait'll you see Kaman's arsenal. He comes here and the apocalypse comes I'm finding his bomb shelter.

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    It'll definitely cost us a first round pick. I don't follow the draft stuff too much but I've obviously heard this is gonna be a great draft. Is it worth trading our hopefully mid 20s pick for a rental on Kaman? Having him gives us a strong shot at the ECF, and all the experience that comes along with it.

    And I'm unbelievably happy that these are the kinds of problems we have.

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    It would mean no Morrow...
    How's that? Another trade can be done to get Morrow or someone else in that salary range.
    It would mean no Allen or JR Smith type of deal, which I'd be fine with.

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    It would be real neat if we could get Jack and Kaman...

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    If we somehow get Kaman without giving up any important players, that would leave us one scorer off the bench away from being a title contender.
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    How's that? Another trade can be done to get Morrow or someone else in that salary range.
    Nets want a salary dump. Kaman would take all of our salary cap space.
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    It would be real neat if we could get Jack and Kaman...
    I'd rather see if they'd give us general greivis

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    It'll definitely cost us a first round pick.
    Depends. It would take a 1st-round pick if we were sending a player back, but simply removing Kaman from their books is a benefit for a lot of teams.
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    Kaman can't be traded w/ another player until Valentine's Day.

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    We should be all over this. There is no long term risk with Kaman and the team can afford the cost for the remainder of this season. There'll be many people on here who disagree but I'd like to see us go big if we land Kaman.
    Give Kaman close to 30 minutes backing up Roy and and West. Let Danny play some time at the 2 and give West some time at the 3. With good rotation mgmt. it's possible to give Hibbert, Kaman, West, and Tyler all 26-30 minutes while giving Jeff 6-10 minutes if he's healthy enough for it. Jones, and Lou would be squeezed out of the lineup entirely. Kaman won't want to stay here long term if all we offer him is 15 minutes off the bench, but if we can give him the time he deserves on a winning team he could be part of our long term plans. Lou's expiring contract would most likely be in the deal to the Hornets anyway.
    At the end of the day I think Stern will want to save the cold hard cash for the Hornets rather then to take back a bad contract from Houston. We're the only team in the mix that can do that.

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    It'll definitely cost us a first round pick. I don't follow the draft stuff too much but I've obviously heard this is gonna be a great draft. Is it worth trading our hopefully mid 20s pick for a rental on Kaman? Having him gives us a strong shot at the ECF, and all the experience that comes along with it.

    And I'm unbelievably happy that these are the kinds of problems we have.
    I don't see any team giving up a 1st. with no assurance that they'll be able to keep Kaman. Maybe if they get to throw in a bad contract but Stern would never go for that. I sure don't see Larry taking that risk since we're already in a tough spot with Hill and his insane salary demand.
    This is unusual though, and it's not like he's just an expiring contract but I don't think any team will give up anything of long term value for what will most likely end up being a 25-30 game rental.
    I see this going right down to the wire with Stern taking what he can get rather then buying out Kamans contract.

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    Nets want a salary dump. Kaman would take all of our salary cap space.
    We can still trade players. Player can go to a third, forth team. It can be done still. I'll do a example later when I get to a computer.

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    I would really like this move. Kaman is perfect for us.

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    Depends. It would take a 1st-round pick if we were sending a player back, but simply removing Kaman from their books is a benefit for a lot of teams.
    Why would the Hornets care about getting Kaman off their books? He's an expiring contract who they only have to pay about $12 million more the rest of the season. That's peanuts for the NBA. I don't see any reason they'd want to trade him unless it was for picks or players. A straight cash dump doesn't help the Hornets at all.

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    Why would the Hornets care about getting Kaman off their books? He's an expiring contract who they only have to pay about $12 million more the rest of the season. That's peanuts for the NBA. I don't see any reason they'd want to trade him unless it was for picks or players. A straight cash dump doesn't help the Hornets at all.
    I'm probably reaching, but it seems like the Hornets have some people interested in buying them. I agree that a scrub and a 2nd rounder probably isn't enough, but maybe they want to shed every dollar they can to make them more "attractive."

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    Giggity.

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    I'm probably reaching, but it seems like the Hornets have some people interested in buying them. I agree that a scrub and a 2nd rounder probably isn't enough, but maybe they want to shed every dollar they can to make them more "attractive."
    That's actually what I was thinking too. I've read that they have a buyer lined up. Dumping salary is usually what the previous owner does before finalizing a sale so that the new owner starts with as low of a payroll as possible. That happens in regular business too not just sports.

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    Why would the Hornets care about getting Kaman off their books? He's an expiring contract who they only have to pay about $12 million more the rest of the season. That's peanuts for the NBA. I don't see any reason they'd want to trade him unless it was for picks or players. A straight cash dump doesn't help the Hornets at all.
    They've already sent him home, though. Why pay him $12 million to sit at home? If they can trade him and not have to pay that, of course it helps them.

    If we do get Kaman, we'll have the unquestioned ugliest front court in the NBA with Foster, Lou, and Kaman. Also, it'll be about the toughest front court in the NBA with Hibbert, West, Hans, and Kaman.

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    If they say the Pacers are the leading contender you can be assured we have no chance of landing Kaman.
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